And than I usually pull him out and run the wildcat! (Is what he forgot to say)

 

Pretty sure he means when Henne gets the hot hand, and isn't referring to him running with the rock. For all of Henne's faults, if he gets going, he can produce excellent results (like the Jests game last year). Problem is he tempers that with truly awful stretches and bad plays. I don't know if another season will produce more level consistent results. I wouldn't necessarily dismiss him outright, but I would certainly be looking to a vet and/or draft for competition, Henne has won nothing this year.

NJ, a good obversation, and I agree. Henning has a special knack for killing the hot streaks or hot plays and not just with Henne. We all remember Ronnie tearing Balt a new hole on the first drive, then seeing the ball like 4 times the rest of the game. Henning can put together a decent plan, but he is poor on reactions, either calling off the dogs to soon before the other stops something thats working, or failing to recognize that something has been stopped. That is one of my biggest gripes with him. Interesting observations, but if he is still here next year I have little faith in the organization.

 

The veteran that needs to be removed on offense is Dan Henning. ;-)

 

Thats awesome that he can call it like it is. Now why is his play calling so terrible?

 

IMO Bess is slightly overrated here. I say this b/c, since he's so effective on 3rd down, we treat him as if he's an asset on every down.... and I don't think that's entirely accurate. With Bess as an every down receiver, we're losing potential yardage and scoring opportunities on 1st & 2nd down, including easy quick strike opportunities.

Hopefully we get some speed in here to help open this puppy up a bit. Based on what they did for the defense the past few years, I'm intrigued to see how they handle the offseason. It seems like they know the problem and are serious about addressing it, which has me a little excited to see what's in store for us. IE: which playmakers are we bringing in and drafting?

 

Unless I missed it, Henning still refusing to accept ANY responsibility for the mess that is our offense.

And there you have it. The league has changed a lot in 40 - 50 years. Henning hasn't. Obsolete. Get his *** out of here and bring in a young, dynamic playcaller.

 

so all coryell based offenses should be scrapped. how about perkins-erhardt? how about west coast? lets run nothing but spread but oh wait defenses have figured out how to stop the spread too.. damn. lets just go into hiatus until we develop some new football concept offense

 

seems more like henning was talking about henne there with the 15 games or one year..isn't that what henne has accomplished as a starter?otherwise i think henning would of said something on the lines of 15 years especially when you read about henne being a 78-80 rating qb meaning henne is average and always will be average is what henning is alluding to there.but thats just my take on that quote.

 

What was wrong with the full Henning interview that was posted the other day?

Edit: Besides the fact that the guy is completely insane.

 

Help! I'm once again being pummeled by Hennings personal bodyguard!

Obviously every scheme in football is based on an old scheme or concept. But that doesn't mean offenses shouldn't continue to evolve with the times. Teams like the Colts, Saints, Patriots, etc. get that. Offensive dinosaurs like Henning don't. He has the mindset of, "It worked when I was a young man, it should work today." But it doesn't.

 

then why are the ravens, steelers, falcons, jaguars, giants, chiefs all winning this year. hell even the colts, eagles, chargers are all running old systems. using your theory, the only team that could win this year would be the patriots. if anyone else wins your theory is shot. the colts have been running the same stale system for 7 years with hardly a change. everyone knows what's coming. its the execution that makes it work. patriots have been running the same system for three years. there's nothing new with that system either anymore. mike martz and the bears...over a decade old. actually when it comes down to it, the broncos should have been in the super bowl since mcdaniels was the most innovatove guy out there....oh wait he's unemployed

 

Glad to see after being away for a month plus the same old threads are being created.

Both parties are at fault. Henne and Henning.

 

Manning, Breese, Brady... does Henne even belong in the same sentence with these guys? Let's not act as if we have a QB of that calibure. The QB's you mentioned are consistent in their high level of play. Are we really going to build our entire offense around a QB that isn't consistent? You play to your strengths of your team and personnel. You don't run a specific offense because it's the hot thing to do in the leauge. Especially if you don't have the horses to run it. If we had Marino then sure lets run a pass happy offense with a QB that you can depend on and put the entire team on his shoulders. We don't have that yet.

 

Please post more often

 

This is a very valid point that I wouldn't even begin to argue against. Both you and Prez are right when you say personnell and execution is a BIG part of the problem. But that doesn't excuse Henning's playcalling. Nor does it give him the right to not take any responsibility for the failures of our offense this season.

On the same token, you also have to acknowledge that while all those QBs you mention are elite and would probably succeed in just about any system, they also have credit some of their success to the dynamic offenses they play in. Matt Cassell putting up some damn good numbers when Brady went down is one good example.

 

LMAO Prez! My blood pressure raises to unhealthy levels when I post here. It's all my fault. I get too serious and don't keep things in perspective. I am an idiot :P

Absolutely I agree with you. I believe both parties are at fault. I think systems that QB's are in do make a difference, for non elite QB's at least. There are different throws required in a West Coast system and than a play action, deep ball type system. But I do get your point. I think you could put those QB's in any system and they would thrive. They can make all the throws required regardless of the system it would seem. So I am with you.

 

what i do see when i'm watching the winning teams .... i see WRs getting 2 steps separation most times .... we are not getting that most times. granted Henne's timing hasn't exactly helped either - as he is so INT weary that he 'waits' until he 'sees' the WR get open, vice anticipating on the break ....

i watch Cassel stare down his WRs, but it doesn't matter, because his guys are open. same with Cutler and can go right down the line ... but i don't want to turn this into yet another Henne thread ....

yes, Bess and Marshall on the field together limits us .... as both are possession WRs .... Marshall is clearly better, but none-the-less .... then you throw in the TE - and we have 3 possession WRs .... I look at it this way .... Marshall is a better version of Oronde G -- so what we need around him is some speed to force either single coverage or a LB on Brandon -- which, he should win every time. Bess, while a good player, does not demand more than single coverage ..... and because we can't get Hartline the ball, he doesn't either. We need 2 fast WRs on this squad that can get downfield (and make catches of course, otherwise we'd digress back to Ginn Jr) ...... then Marshall and our TEs would be $$$$$.

I do agree with the statements Padre opened the thread with from Henning .... they do seem fair and accurate .... and to me, the deep ball is one of the easiest to throw as long as you have some timing with your WRs, which Henne clearly doesn't right now. Equally, what i believe is that all Henne worked on all last offseason was short - medium passes as required by the regime. If he can learn touch on those mid range passes, there is no way that he can't throw a deep ball, that just defies logic .....