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The Future Miami Marlins 2008 Thread

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by Desides, Mar 31, 2008.

  1. Alex44

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    Kevin Gregg = No more pitching in the 9th please.

    I understand a blown save here and there, but at this point you dont even expect him to save the game. Even when he gets two outs you just think 'well now it will be even more painful.'
     
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  2. Dannyg28

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    the last time Cody faced that same pitcher, he got pegged in the kidney.
     
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  3. PMZQ

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    I'm glad someone else see's through that "sore knee" BS. You and I well know, that story is a cover for getting Gregg out of there and not having to use him (maybe never) again for a while. This should take at least 15 days and maybe the rest of the year -- I am not stupid, and I do resent their putting out a story like this to cover themselves. But what else should we expect from a franchise that disregards its fans like this one does. It seems as if they actually hate us, to treat us like we are that stupid. Don't they realize we'll see through this when Gregg doesn't go on the DL ?

    Because I will be relentless, and forever single minded in making sure I shout it from the mountaintops that Loria is not deserving of being an MLB owner. He has now ruined the fan bases of two cities, and made it nearly impossible to get a new stadium built. It is through his and Samson's stupidity that the franchise fanbase has been nearly ruined. Almost to a point you feel it was done on purpose in South Fla. It just seems they go out of their way to P.O. everyone down here.
     
  4. PMZQ

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    Don't worry, I don't think you ever see Gregg throw another pitch in a Marlins uniform. :shifty:
     
  5. SICK

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    from your mouth to gods ears hopefully!!!!!
     
  6. Desides

    Desides Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    You act like this is the first instance of a manager showing some decency and not publicly embarrassing one of his players by at least throwing out a cover story. Come on, man. Gonzalez doesn't need to sit there and say "Kevin Gregg's lost it, he's toast, I never want to see him again." What good does that do?

    What? Loria's the guy who finalized the stadium deal when everyone from Huizenga onwards failed. Give credit where it's due.

    Norman Braman is the reason why it's "nearly impossible," not Jeffrey Loria. Though I will say I hope Loria sells the team after the stadium is 100% set to go. There are plenty of people who would love to not only run a baseball franchise, but to say that they took the basic pieces and built something special out of it.
     
  7. Mainge

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    Well he's doing two things. One, hes protecting his player. It's not doing anyone any good to call out your closer. And two, he's protecting his value. If other teams think he's pitching poorly because of injury, his trade value is upped.
     
  8. PMZQ

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    I think we all know what is really behind this. I feel for Gregg's safety in that locker room. Freddi is removing him before the problem gets too big and distracts the team completely. There are men that have fought long and hard to win games, and then Gregg comes along and ruins their work. I know I would resent it, especially since that guy who is blowing it all is the highest paid player on the team at $ 2.5 million. Pure & simple they trusted a reliever and unless his name is Mariano Riveria, these days, you don't trust a reliever. (and even he has shown cracks in his armour)


    This same deal was on the table back in 2005, and Loria said NO. It should have already been done, and yes I am angry at Brahman, but I also blame Loria, since he should have taken the deal in 2005, when it would have cost $ 150 million less to build. But Loria wanted to be greedy, and didn't want to pay anything, but reap 100% of the profits.
     
  9. PMZQ

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    Please, trade value ? This guy has none.....he will be shopped around no doubt after the season, but I doubt we get a single taker. Instead they will either trade him for a bag of peanuts or just let him go. Either way will make me happy that he is gone.
     
  10. Mainge

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    He has trade value. I guarantee it.
     
  11. PMZQ

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    Then tell me what would you give up for him ?
     
  12. SICK

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    a bag of cracker jacks and a spool of thread....nothing more....nothing less.....its a fair deal imho
     
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  13. Mainge

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    If you take away the saves and just look at his other numbers, the fact is that he's been an above average to good reliever.
     
  14. Mainge

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    First two call-ups were announced.

    Welcome back Andrew Miller and Brett Carroll.
     
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  15. Desides

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    No Maybin at all? Strange.
     
  16. Get Up And Go

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    I hope we can at least mess up the Met's playoff chances.
     
  17. SICK

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    how many can we call up?
     
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    wow andrew miller looked great in relief......hit 99 mph on a fastball to chipper
     
  19. Mainge

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    Freddi said no players from Carolina will be called up until their playoff run is finished.

    Our roster expands from 25 to 40 I believe, so we could still potentially see 14 more call-ups (Mike Rabelo was put on the 60 day DL) although that is unlikely.

    EDIT: After a little research, Freddi anticipates 6 to 8 players getting the call. I'll go ahead and guess and say Miller, Carrol, Maybin, Tucker, Raynor, Sanchez, Coughlan, and a name a buddy of mine (who is very much in the know) keeps whispering is AAA player Tagg Bozied.

    He is absolutely filthy. He followed up that heater with a 76 mph curve to freeze Chipper. If he can fix his command issues, which has never been a huge problem for him, he could be very very good
     
  20. Mainge

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    Robert Andino, Dallas McPherson, and Elugio De La Cruz have been called up.

    Honestly surprised McPherson is up. He is 7 days away from another year of service.

    Guess Loria isn't that cheap.
     
  21. Desides

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    Where will McPherson play? Third base?
     
  22. Mainge

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    Lefty power bat off the bench. I'd guess if they wanted to give him a start or two, they'd put him at 3rd and slide Cantu across the diamond.
     
  23. SICK

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    maybe no post-season.....but watching the future get pulled up will be fun!!!
     
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  24. PMZQ

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    Miller looked great today. What a win. It always makes me feel great to beat the Braves, and its looking better and better that we can finally finish above them in the standings.....if we can't win the division, or get the wildcard, I want one other thing, and that is finishing at least 1 game above those braves..........just one year I want that. Hopefully we get it this year.
     
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  25. PMZQ

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    Last year was sooooo sweet on that final game of the year. :up:
     
  26. PMZQ

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    This sounds very reasonable....:wink2:
     
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  27. Mainge

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    Theres a very real possibility each of these call-ups will be with the big club next year.
     
  28. Desides

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    Do we have a list of which current players could walk next year?
     
  29. Mainge

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    Eligible for arbitration:
    Amezaga
    Cantu
    Gregg
    Hermida
    Jacobs
    Kensing
    Johnson
    Miller
    Mitre
    Olsen
    Ross
    Treanor
    Uglla
    Willingham
    and possibly Nolasco (Super Two)

    Hendrickson, Hoover, and Gonzalez are all free agents and Helms will make almost 4 million.
     
  30. SICK

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    our roster might look aloootttt different next season
     
  31. Mainge

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    Yeah. We could potentially have our 2009 line-up look like:

    1. Maybin-CF.
    2. Raynor-RF.
    3. Ramirez-SS.
    4. Sanchez-1B.
    5. Ross-LF.
    6. McPherson-3B.
    7. Coghlan-2B.
    8. Baker-C.

    And then

    1. Nolasco
    2. Johnson
    3. Miller
    4. Volstad
    5. Sanchez
     
  32. SICK

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    I think they'll keep cantu
     
  33. SICK

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    whata great game for baker....hes catching fire
     
  34. Skeet84

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    600 fans lol wow! It was pretty hot tho.
     
  35. PMZQ

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    Our team will once again be back to the same thing as in 2006 - baseball babies......and predictions of 100+ losses.
     
  36. PMZQ

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    I think you have it down....I don't see anything I disagree with.
     
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  37. PMZQ

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    Hey that was 200 more than we got for that last home game against Washington last year :lol:
     
  38. PMZQ

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    If he can improve defensively by next Spring, it would save a big headache for the front office and having to find a new starter as catcher.
     
  39. PMZQ

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    Any chance they keep LoDuca as a "veteran" presence for next season ?
     
  40. Mainge

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    I'd say yeah. He's platooning with Baker pretty successfully right now.

    BTW, Maybin just went yard to make it 4-0 in their playoff game.
     
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