The Hard Knocks Questions, Comments, and/or Concerns Thread

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Paul 13Paul 13Staff
Aug 8, 2012, 12:15 AM

"FinNasty wrote:

You could be entirely correct. Like I said, I have been very pleased with a lot of what Philbin has done since he got here. Dont know what to tell ya though, it just kinda rubbed me the wrong way...

When Philbin said I'm going to speak with Chad about it, I figured he'd call him into his office and have a one on one sitdown. I was surprised to see it take place on the practice field. Was it right or wrong? Time will tell.

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ToddPhinToddPhinLuxury Box
Aug 8, 2012, 12:16 AM

I like that the team/organization has just enough personality & charm that we can afford to wait a week to introduce coach Turner and let him steal the show. :yes:

Fin-OmenalFin-OmenalNew Member
Aug 8, 2012, 12:20 AM

"Paul 13 wrote:

When Philbin said I'm going to speak with Chad about it, I figured he'd call him into his office and have a one on one sitdown. I was surprised to see it take place on the practice field. Was it right or wrong? Time will tell.

Irrelevant IMO. He made his point.

djphinfandjphinfanSupporter
Aug 8, 2012, 12:20 AM

"FinNasty wrote:

You could be entirely correct. Like I said, I have been very pleased with a lot of what Philbin has done since he got here. Dont know what to tell ya though, it just kinda rubbed me the wrong way...

I felt the same during it Nas, a little, but I'm trying to find the right context for which to put any coach having that conversation with that player, tough one, but it seemed like his intention was to not to make Chad feel strangled on purpose, like a fine balance, maybe to try in get the best of both worlds out of the payer..keep your swagger, have your fun, perform on the field, and keep it classy san Diego.

Sethdaddy8Sethdaddy8Forum Veteran
Aug 8, 2012, 12:20 AM

"Paul 13 wrote:

When Philbin said I'm going to speak with Chad about it, I figured he'd call him into his office and have a one on one sitdown. I was surprised to see it take place on the practice field. Was it right or wrong? Time will tell.

I think thats all that was needed. You see, if Chad pushes the envelope...it won't be for vulgarity.

Lee2000Lee2000Supporter
Aug 8, 2012, 12:21 AM

Steinbach is probably going to be a savey veteran. I bet he is better than his first impression. He is on the second team now. Wouldn't put too much into his first appearance and the whole cigarette thing. The real villian in this episode, the real stinker is Dawn Aponte. I wonder if she will continue to be involved in serious negotiations because she can't be serious about what she told Tannehill's agent.

Paul 13Paul 13Staff
Aug 8, 2012, 12:21 AM

"ckparrothead wrote:

Thought they undersold Garrard. Someone who didn't know a thing about the Dolphins would watch that and then be totally shocked when Philbin stepped into the QB room and named Garrard #1 on the depth chart. Hard Knocks made it seem like Moore was a shoe-in.

Just me or did Philbin not look at Moore much, if at all, during that whole sequence in the qb room? Moore was working that gum... and then symbolically threw it at the trash can by the door just after Philbin had left.

Sidenote... heard Polian today talking about how Garrard looked at practice. He said he was back healthy and after the back surgery last year, it's good to see he has his arm strength, his arm angle / positioning, back to where it was prior to the surgery. Polian said he has first hand knowledge of how these back surgeries can be and what the effects potentially are.

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DesidesDesidesForum Veteran
Aug 8, 2012, 12:21 AM

"FinNasty wrote:

I saw him looking at practice, doing his job. But I also saw him looking at the ground more than he looked at Chad, at least that was the impression I had watching it. And if you cant afford to look a guy in the eyes during a conversation like that, then maybe its not the right time for that conversation.

Just not a fan of how he handled that...

The angle he took when you thought he was looking at the ground was him following the practice.

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Nappy RootsNappy RootsForum Veteran
Aug 8, 2012, 12:24 AM

"Desides wrote:

The angle he took when you thought he was looking at the ground was him following the practice.

Yea thats what I thought as well. I love how he went about it. Loved how he said, look you saying it in practice is different. Drop one f bomb during a presser in a certain time is one thing and can be acceptable. But that's just excessive for no reason.

Paul 13Paul 13Staff
Aug 8, 2012, 12:24 AM

"Desides wrote:

The angle he took when you thought he was looking at the ground was him following the practice.

he must have been watching Les Brown miss a block and end up on his face again... :lol:

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finyank13finyank13New Member
Aug 8, 2012, 12:24 AM

"Paul 13 wrote:

Loved how Tannehill went right onto the practice field at 11:43pm after his contract was signed to get a quick workout in.

He didn't.....that was the mandatory physical u have to pass before u can practice......

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ToddPhinToddPhinLuxury Box
Aug 8, 2012, 12:25 AM

"Paul 13 wrote:

Just me or did Philbin not look at Moore much, if at all, during that whole sequence in the qb room? Moore was working that gum... and then symbolically threw it at the trash can by the door just after Philbin had left.

Sidenote... heard Polian today talking about how Garrard looked at practice. He said he was back healthy and after the back surgery last year, it's good to see he has his [Garrard's] arm strength, his arm angle / positioning, back to where it was prior to the surgery. Polian said he has first hand knowledge of how these back surgeries can be and what the effects potentially are.

..... and his back seemed to handle the wipe-out pretty good too, no?

GridIronKing34GridIronKing34Forum Veteran
Aug 8, 2012, 12:26 AM

"Desides wrote:

After his conditioning test, he said he wanted an ice bath and a cigarette and he'd be fine.

Honestly that just seemed like an "Iowa thing" to say to me... not trying to justify but call it as I see it.

ToddPhinToddPhinLuxury Box
Aug 8, 2012, 12:28 AM

"GridIronKing34 wrote:

Honestly that just seemed like an "Iowa thing" to say to me... not trying to justify but call it as I see it.

I'd be surprised if he even knew you TBH, but think what you want.

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Paul 13Paul 13Staff
Aug 8, 2012, 12:32 AM

"finyank13 wrote:

He didn't.....that was the mandatory physical u have to pass before u can practice......

you mean conditioning test? hmm... maybe. Kinda late timing wise to do that.

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padre31padre31Luxury Box
Aug 8, 2012, 12:34 AM

"ckparrothead wrote:

Thought they undersold Garrard. Someone who didn't know a thing about the Dolphins would watch that and then be totally shocked when Philbin stepped into the QB room and named Garrard #1 on the depth chart. Hard Knocks made it seem like Moore was a shoe-in.

Called that a month ago, VD being in crappy shape though...not so good.

Cat should man up, he has the talent, but the fountain of motivation is apparently running dry for him.

Lee2000Lee2000Supporter
Aug 8, 2012, 12:39 AM

I am not questioning the move of Marshall to the starters or have no illusions about Les Brown making the 53.

GridIronKing34GridIronKing34Forum Veteran
Aug 8, 2012, 12:48 AM

"Lee2000 wrote:

I am not questioning the move of Marshall to the starters or have no illusions about Les Brown making the 53.

Judging solely by the show I'd say Brown is practice squad material at best. I don't think there is enough to really say much about Vontae Davis without jumping to conclusions at this point in time. As an editor, I know it'd be very easy to "trick" the audience into something with the amount of footage they shoot. Really they showed Davis out of breathe, get beat by Matthews, get yelled at for taking a piss during practice, and a couple soundbytes from coaches. I can understand the concerns but I just don't think there is enough to make a concrete opinion about it YET. I think the depth chart was a motivation tactic personally but I wouldn't be up in arms by any means of they did wind up name Marshall the starter over Davis... I know Marshall can play.

MrCleanMrCleanSupporter
Aug 8, 2012, 12:58 AM

"phinsational wrote:

..... and his back seemed to handle the wipe-out pretty good too, no?

Yeah, my thought when I saw him skiing behind the boat was his back is feeling fine.

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jpep13jpep13Supporter
Aug 8, 2012, 01:04 AM

Which Qb's wives did you like best? Matt Moore seems to have a cute wife. I did not know anything about Garrard's wife. We already knew Tannehill's wife.
All 3 have a nice cuteness to them.

padre31padre31Luxury Box
Aug 8, 2012, 01:14 AM

"MrClean wrote:

Yeah, my thought when I saw him skiing behind the boat was his back is feeling fine.

I always thought this was such a non issue it surprised me that anyone would bring it up.

My goodness, 8-9 months to heal is plenty of time even for my Grandma let alone a pro athlete.

Starry31Starry31Forum Veteran
Aug 8, 2012, 01:48 AM

The angle he took when you thought he was looking at the ground was him following the practice.

He was following practice but after watching it a second time I believe he did glance at the ground several times as well. He also seemed to be really careful with how he was going word, "you need to be ready to deal with that." A nitpick for sure and doesn't mean anything in my opinion, but it's ok for Philbin to not be 100% perfect with everything he does. I do like how he told Chad to communicate with each other and that it wasn't a dictatorship.

Les Brown though... He has to pick up the blocks better.... Every play I saw him he ended on his ass

He may not make the team but with his girlfriend/wife he's a winner in life.

Entertaining show, lots of things that made me laugh and really looking forward to the next episode.

MrCleanMrCleanSupporter
Aug 8, 2012, 04:05 AM

"padre31 wrote:

I always thought this was such a non issue it surprised me that anyone would bring it up.

My goodness, 8-9 months to heal is plenty of time even for my Grandma let alone a pro athlete.

Just to put your mind at ease, the condition of his back did not concern me before or after I saw the wipeout on the water.

“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”

― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice

MrCleanMrCleanSupporter
Aug 8, 2012, 04:07 AM

"jpep13 wrote:

Which Qb's wives did you like best? Matt Moore seems to have a cute wife. I did not know anything about Garrard's wife. We already knew Tannehill's wife.
All 3 have a nice cuteness to them.

None of the QB wives were as attractive to me as Chad's wife or Les Brown's wife/gf.

“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”

― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice

ToddPhinToddPhinLuxury Box
Aug 8, 2012, 04:28 AM

"MrClean wrote:

None of the QB wives were as attractive to me as Chad's wife or Les Brown's wife/gf.

I'd just put all 5 in bed with me and see which one wins. Worked for Castro. :shifty: