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The measuring stick

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Vinny Fins, Sep 20, 2022.

  1. Vinny Fins

    Vinny Fins Feisty Brooklyn dolfan ️‍

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    Sunday. At home. 1pm. Short week for them. Their d is banged up. They have fed us our lunch forever. Show them we measure up. Show them you can hang. Show them they can bleed.
    Real ****in fired up for sunday gang.
     
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  2. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    I just hope the referees stay out of the game. I just feel a couple of BS roughing the passer and illegal contact penalties coming our way.

    The Bills are the darlings right now.
     
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  3. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    The Bills have scored at will for many games in a row, interrupted only by the weather once. I don't see us stopping them, so I don't see us winning.
     
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  4. Wilkimania

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    I think Tua and the offense would have to outplay their performance from Sunday in order for us to come away with the result here. Always feels like Buffalo run up the score on us in recent years.
     
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  5. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I have hope, but it is going to be dauntless. Buffalo is on fire. They are crushing teams so far this year and look to be on the path to victory. It is hard to even imagine them being beat by any team in the NFL at this time.

    I am looking forward to seeing how good Mike really is

    Though the season is a marathon and not a sprint.
     
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  6. cbrad

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    NFL refs are generally biased towards the home team. We just saw that in the Ravens game. This is one area where we'll probably have a slight advantage. Here's statistically what tends to happen:

    nfl penalties home away.png
     
  7. firedan

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    We will win because nobody but the team really thinks they can pull it off.
     
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  8. Wilkimania

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    If we do then I'm buying all the way in. I'm confident of a good season at the moment, but if we can start being that top tier of side then I'll really start believing that we can be in the proper fight come playoff time.
     
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  9. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    If we beat the Bills, the national sports media will start talking about as SB contenders. If we lose, it's going to be "same old Dolphins."
     
  10. TheHighExhaulted

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    Bills are a juggernaut right now. It depends what the final score is.

    If they do win, there will be Super Bowl buzz.
     
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  11. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    With us here, sure. But with a lot of the media, they're going to dismiss us immediately the first time we lose.
     
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  12. OwesOwn614

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    I have a feeling Tua's going to take a lick or two. He got creamed in the game last season and I'm betting Buffalo is going to attack with abandon, even if it means getting a roughing call or two. We need the OL to play the way it has been and for #1 to continue making quick good decisions. I really really want to come out of the murderers' row early season with at least three wins and I'd prefer we make this game one of them.
     
  13. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    Before the season, I would have been happy with 2-2 from this stretch. The way the Bengals have been playing, there's a good chance we could be 3-1. That would still be better than I'd hoped.
     
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  14. Wilkimania

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    I think the media will start believing if we keep it close and Tua is the one that does it. Like if we lost a shootout around 34-31 then I think a lot of the media would start giving us real consideration as a tier 2 team.
     
  15. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    I think it really depends on how this game goes. Will the Baltimore game be just an anomaly for Tua and this offense? Or will we hang with Buffalo in a tight game and prove that we belong? For me it's easier to say that Tua will lay another egg against the Bills, the offense will sputter, and we will get Shoryuken'd in our own house. After last week though...I'm not so sure. I will say this...This is Tua's show from here on out. I know McDaniels comes from a run first type of scheme, but we do not have the personnel to be that type of team. Edmonds, and Mostert are quick hitters and nothing more...Opportunistic playmakers, not bell cows. Besides, it's obvious that our O line sucks at run blocking and I don't see us being able to run the ball against Buffalo. It's possible we're playing from behind once again, and I can see Tua throwing 50 times in this game.
    This one is hopefully going to be fun. We pull off a win and this season is going to start looking rather magical for us. We keep it competitive, but lose a heartbreaker and we're walking away with a pat on the back and a moral victory. We get blown off the field in a 56-10 massacre, the Raven game becomes nothing more then a rapidly fading memory.
     
  16. OwesOwn614

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    Say what you will, but the losses over the past couple of seasons have been collapses by the entire rosters. They've had our number in all three phases of the game. To be honest, if we lose a shootout, it'd be preferred over the mollywops they've given us. Same if we lose a defensive battle. I just need to see that we're closing the gap. I'd be ecstatic to win on Sunday. I might screenshot Monday's standing and make it my desktop graphic on every device.
     
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  17. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    If we win Sunday, I'm buying a Tua jersey. And a Tyreek jersey. And a Waddle jersey.
     
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  18. Pennington's Limp Arm

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    The Bills went on the road and made the defending super bowl champions look like a mediocre varsity team in week 1.

    On Monday night they cooked the team with the best record in the AFC last year…. Cooked em so bad the Bills rolled out their second team players in the 3rd quarter, like it was a preseason game.

    I mean this is the most daunting team in the league right now and they also happen to have our number.

    Honestly Not expecting us to beat them at the moment. I’ll be happy with a respectable/competitive outing (unlike Rams and Titans).

    Lots of season left to improve and get to that level. You can see the potential, but I would be surprised if we are ready to beat the Bills this week.
     
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  19. cbrad

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    Bills are only -4.5 point favorites. I said in the game thread we should be 3 point underdogs and this isn't too far off. This is a far more competitive match in bettors' minds than some of you are acting like. -4.5 spread corresponds to 67% probability Bills win, and I think that's more or less in the right ballpark. We can definitely win this one, just need a few things to go our way.
     
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  20. texanphinatic

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    Absolutely have to limit mistakes. The Titans couldn't get out of their own way last night and it let the Bills just put the pedal down. Mistakes compounding mistakes.

    That said, the Bills DO look like the clear team to beat in the NFL this year. They are SB favorites lead by an MVP favorite. Elite offense with a near elite defense. It looks even more elite when the Bills jump on teams early by several scores.

    If we open things up offensively like we did against the Ravens late, and don't shoot ourselves in the foot with bad TO's or bad special teams plays, we can have a chance. But we NEED the elite defense to play like it for 4 quarters and we NEED elite Tua to be elite Tua and not mediocre game manager Tua.
     
  21. Tin Indian

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    I'm not sure how good the Rams and Titans actually are this year. The Rams made some huge mistakes letting some of their key pieces go in free agency and they really don't look the same. The Titans are 0-2 and got popped week 1 by the Giants.

    What is encouraging to me is we are 2-0 to start the season and this is with a completely new offense and head coach. Normally in that situation the offense doesn't really hit it's stride until they are about 8 games in. If that holds true and the offense gets even better by mid year, well you had better hold on cause this could get crazy.

    We just need to get out of this without any significant injuries.
     
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  22. Springveldt

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    I'm surprised by this, I was expecting them to be -7.5 based on how they have been playing.

    If the OL can perform like the 2nd half of the Ravens game we can score with them as their secondary is banged up and won't be able to hang with Hill and Waddle in the heat. If they perform like the Patriots game then I can see us getting blown out.

    It feels like Buffalo has owned the trenches against us for quite a few years now, it's the most important aspect of this game for me.
     
  23. KeyFin

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    I think it really depends on how we lose. If we go down like the Titans did looking like a 2nd class contender, then yeah...same old Dolphins. But if we would have lost last week 38-35, nobody would have said that or thought that. I'd be happy at 1-1 with that kind of loss. Being 2-0 is so much sweeter, but I think almost all of us gained a new level of respect for this team before that final TD.

    As others have said, the Bills are juggernauts. They shouldn't lose. But at the same time, maybe we're baby juggernauts ourselves? We've been tested twice so far this season from two solid playoff teams, and both of them got sent home crying. Why can't we see that in week 3 as well? I guarantee you that the Bills organization is thinking that and preparing for it as much as possible.

    Because this is what I've been saying for months now- how do you double Tyreek, double Waddle, AND account for Giescki over the middle, a wicked stable of RB's, and/or that 4th receiver we have out there? Solve the formula- I don't think you can unless you rush 3 defenders. But when that happens, we're running the ball and eating you alive that way. There's just no answer for this offense if Tua is playing efficiently and distributing the ball to the path of least resistance.

    What I think we'll see in the next few months is that Tua has several elite skills that haven't been credited. The speed of processing the field. The ability to throw into the tightest of windows. The ability to evade pressure and work multiple levels of the pocket. In 8 weeks, I really think many here will say elite, elite, elite for that stuff. And once Tua fully believes it as well and has that confidence in this new team, oh boy. That's when the real magic happens.
     
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  24. Dorfdad

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    I’m not worried about our offense though having said that anyone expecting us to score 30+ on the bills are crazy!

    Our defense has to have a magical day on Sunday but I just don’t see that. I see a bend don’t break defense that gives up chunks in the middle of the field and succumbs in the red zones.

    we have not put any real pressure on opposing qb’s so far and with buffalos offensive line I don’t see us changing that this week.

    I still have is as a 10-7 team but this week is probably an L.

    score Buffalo 28 dolphins 17
     
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  25. dolphin25

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    We have got get pressure on Burrows or he will pick us to death.
     
  26. Rick 1966

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    Well, the way his line is playing, it may not be that difficult to get pressure on Burrow.
     
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  27. dolphin25

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    That is what I'm afraid our DC is thinking too. I don't think our 4 man rush will have much affect on their OL.
     
  28. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    Why not?
     
  29. Dorfdad

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    we can’t get sacks with full blitzes what makes you think a four man line will a difference?
     
  30. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    Because not every offensive line is created equal?
     
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  31. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    So far that hasn't been an issue for any team that played him this year.
     
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  32. dolphin25

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    Yes, but those teams have been using more then a 4 man rush.
     
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    we can't get pressure with only 4 man rush.
     
  34. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    And you know this because we've already played the Bengals this season?
     
  35. RGF

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    - 6 now
     
  36. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    Which means they were getting a lot of action on the Bills and the points.
     
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  37. RGF

    RGF THE FINSTER Club Member

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    Yep. They need bets on the Dolphins side .
     
  38. dolphin25

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    nope, just based on the last 2 or 3 years. but, hey you might be right it might magically happen even though I've watched each Bengals game this year and they handle 4 man rush pretty well.
     
  39. cbrad

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    So we passed the Bills test. Vegas still thinks we lose to the Bengals. We're +3.5 underdogs right now. Why? Don't know. We've shown more than enough to be at least even odds playing in Cinci IMO. But so be it.

    4-0 coming up.

    Oh.. and it's now down to just us and Philly for an undefeated season.
     
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  40. firedan

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    Just from a betting perspective it might be good to take the points.
     

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