I appreciate your attempt to smooth this over. However, I respectfully say you're wrong. First things first, I haven't made statements about racing. I personally find the practices involved, wrong, but I will admit to the fact that it is debatable as torture. What I've spoke on was animal fighting, specifically dog fighting. It is, simply, not my opinion that you can participate in dog fighting AND still respect the animals involved. It is fact. One need to look no further than the definitions of "torture" and "respect". Torture- n. the act of inflicting excruciating pain, as punishment or revenge, as a means of getting a confession or information, or for sheer cruelty. Respect-n. esteem for or a sense of the worth or excellence of a person, a personal quality or ability, or something considered as a manifestation of a personal quality or ability Now, you said it was my opinion that the techniques used in dog fighting are torture. Well, that isn't true. Starving, beating and baiting dogs is absolutely torture, as is electrocuting, drowning, etc. (some of the things Vick did). There is no honest way to consider these things as anything but torture, going by the definition of the word. As far the matching up of definitions for "torture" or "respect", well, that is simply a bogus argument. Anyone can claim, a word means one thing or another, but the actual definition is inarguable. If it weren't we'd have no semblance of language, with everyone making up their own definitions to words. Now, people who partake in this "sport" of animal fighting, may say they respect the animal, but they are not using the true definition of respect. Which isn't valid. Simply put, it is impossible to torture something you respect, inasmuch, as it is impossible for parallel lines to intersect. The second the lines cross they can no longer be considered parallel. The second you torture an animal you can no longer claim to respect it. The definitions of these words are not compatible, and absolutely, show this to be fact.