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***The Official 2009 Florida Marlins Thread***

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by PMZQ, Feb 3, 2009.

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    Just thought I would start the Marlins thread for 2009.
     
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    Here is the 2009 Florida Marlins Spring Training schedule

    February
    Wednesday, February 25 @ Cardinals 1:05 PM
    Thursday, February 26 @ Mets 1:10 PM
    Friday, February 27 vs Orioles 1:05 PM WAXY 790
    Saturday, February 28 @ Orioles 1:05 PM WAQI 710 (Sp.)

    March
    Sunday, March 1 vs Cardinals 1:05 PM WAQI 710 (Sp.)
    Tuesday, March 3 vs Dominican Republic 1:05 PM WAXY 790
    Wednesday, March 4 vs Italy 1:05 PM
    Thursday, March 5 @ Orioles 1:05 PM
    Friday, March 6 @ Red Sox 1:05 PM WAXY 790
    Saturday, March 7 vs Orioles 1:05 PM WAXY 790, WAQI 710 (Sp.)
    Sunday, March 8 @ Cardinals 1:05 PM WAXY 790, WAQI 710 (Sp.)
    Monday, March 9 vs Tigers 7:05 PM
    Wednesday, March 11 vs Cardinals 1:05 PM WAXY 790
    Thursday, March 12 @ Mets 7:10 PM
    Friday, March 13 vs Braves 1:05 PM
    Saturday, March 14 @ Twins 1:05 PM FS-F WAQI 710 (Sp.)
    Sunday, March 15 vs Mets 1:05 PM WAXY 790, WAQI 710 (Sp.)
    Monday, March 16 vs Nationals 1:05 PM
    Wednesday, March 18 @ Nationals 7:05 PM
    Thursday, March 19 vs Phillies 1:05 PM WAXY 790
    Friday, March 20 @ Braves 1:05 PM
    Saturday, March 21 vs Red Sox 1:05 PM WAXY 790, WAQI 710 (Sp.)
    Sunday, March 22 @ Tigers 1:05 PM WAXY 790, WAQI 710 (Sp.)
    Monday, March 23 @ Astros 1:05 PM FS-F
    Tuesday, March 24 vs Twins 1:05 PM WAXY 790
    Thursday, March 26 @ Orioles 1:05 PM
    Friday, March 27 vs Orioles 1:05 PM
    Saturday, March 28 @ Mets 1:10 PM WAXY 790, WAQI 710 (Sp.)
    Sunday, March 29 vs Nationals 1:05 PM WAXY 790, WAQI 710 (Sp.)
    Monday, March 30 @ Cardinals 1:05 PM
    Tuesday, March 31 vs Mets 7:05 PM
     
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    Florida Marlins Organization players at the WBC

    Canada
    # 52-Christopher Leroux

    Dominican Republic
    # 2-Hanley Ramirez

    Mexico
    # 3-Jorge Cantu
    # 4-Alfredo Amezaga

    Netherlands
    # 56-Rick VandenHurk

    United States
    # 29-Matt Lindstrom
     
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    Maybe we'll make the playoffs since someone besides me started the thread. :lol:

    And I still say getting in and out of that ballpark is going to be a pain in the ***. Have we heard anything about a lease extension for playing in Dolphin Stadium for another year or two?
     
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    Desi, it won't happen, so this stadium issue now, is do or die. There is a poison pill in the U of Miami contract that calls for the Marlins to be out, or the U recieves all of the Marlins revenue that would be for the stadium for that season. No way Dolphin Stadium Management is going to let the Marlins play there without the stadium recieving a penny.

    Unfortunately Oakland lost its bid the other day to build a new place, and now the ugly "c" word is back in play (that word would be contraction).
     
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    i love this team! i hope we surprise people again....just wish i could afford mlb extra innings :cry: its gunna be completley depressing not being able to see my boys play nightly
     
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    Sick......don't totally despair, I may have a solution for you. :wink2:
     
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    Did not know that. That's a major problem. If the Marlins wind up playing in that run-down minor league stadium... what an embarrassment for MLB. Then again, Bud Selig doesn't give a damn about baseball in Florida.
     
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    I think mlb.com offers an extra innings type package on their website that is very cheap (I think it's under 50 bucks, maybe even 20 bucks) compared to the $180 bucks of so the extra innings package costs. I'd check that out.
     
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    This problem should have been solved by Selig years ago, but I think you hit on a major theme here. The Brewers play Spring ball where ? In AZ, and have always done so. Bud Selig used to own which team ? The Brewers. Where does Selig have his 2nd home ? AZ......

    Guess what team got a special loan from MLB to complete and make sure their stadium was built from day one ? :rolleyes: I wonder.....could that be the AZ D'backs ? :tantrum::tantrum::tantrum:

    If Selig wanted to he could have bridged that $ 30 million shortfall in 2005 between the City of Miami and the Marlins and gotten the stadium done at that time, but he wouldn't do it, even though he had committed $ 60 million in loans to Colangelo the then owner of the D'Backs for their stadium.

    It took until the Spring of 2008 for Selig to send Bob DuPuy his 2nd in command down here to help with the negotiations for the stadium project. Selig also allowed the whole John Henry fiasco, and also made sure that Loria came to South Fla, instead of going with his old franchise to Washington DC. You think its coincidence he did that ? Its because Washington DC metro has a population of 8 million, and South Fla 5 million. Selig would rather Loria screw up in So Fla than in Washington DC. because its a smaller market.

    Man I hate Bud Selig :tantrum: :tantrum: :tantrum:
     
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    And don't get me started on his pulling the 2000 All Star Game from us.....that was one of the worst stunts he pulled :tantrum::tantrum::tantrum::tantrum:
     
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    Actually MLB.TV is $ 109.95 for the HD package, and $ 79.95 for the lower package, and the audio package is extremely affordable at just $ 14.95 for the whole season, and yes that includes EVERY game - more than 1000 games for $ 15 !!!!

    I have both the Extra Innings on my DirecTV and the MLB.TV so I can look at more than one game at a time. :up:
     
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    And then the talking heads blame the people of South Florida for the state of the Marlins. Uh, no, guys, it's hard to root for a team that has chronic instability at the top and along the roster. Some of us manage anyway, but when the commissioner's office is not committed to popularizing and establishing expansion teams, you wind up with problems.

    The sad thing is that if Selig doesn't make the Hall of Fame, it'll be more because of steroids and less because of his selective competence in the actual business of baseball.
     
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    I'm convinced the deal is dead. Wouldn't surprise me to hear relocation talks start up again.
     
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    There is nowhere to relocate to. Las Vegas ? Their economy is in worse shape than So Fla. San Antonio ? That is the 39th market. MLB has already said they will not go from the 11th Market (So Fla) to the 39th.

    No the only alternative is the "c" word - contraction. However Loria has said if they do that, or try to, he will sue MLB and according to what I have read he would have a great chance of winning. MLB doesn't want to do that -- sooooooo what I do see is eventually a bargain basement stadium without a cover (built maybe so that a cover could be put on eventually) will be built for about $ 325 million.

    My best guess. :wink2:
     
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    If that happened, Marlins fans would finally have a reason to fully and unconditionally support Loria.
     
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    Well not really, because that would mean the Marlins will have been contracted already. The Loria lawsuit would be over the amount of compensation that Loria would get from MLB. You know he will want 2 or 3 times what they will give him.
     
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    At that point, Marlins fans would want blood, so any amount of money Loria can steal from MLB would be cheered.
     
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    Lindstrom filthy against Venezuela last night.
     
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    Yes he was, and Vandenhurk looked pretty good against Puerto Rico. maybe we do have some players :wink2:
     
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    Marlins 1, Tigers 0 - Johnson tosses 5 shutout innings

    http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090309&content_id=3955072&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=fla

     
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    Not that spring training means anything but Hermida, Baker, and Maybin have been hitting the snot out of the ball and Nolasco and Volstad look sharp. JJ has yet to give up a run in 8 innings of work.

    Hopefully Anibal and Miller get their act together before Opening Day.
     
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    Interesting.
     
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    What... what the hell? The coaching staff is actually doing its job? This is unheard of in the Fredi Gonzalez era.
     
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    Logan Morrison is an absolute stud. If we struggle at all offensively, look for him to come up circa Cabrera in 2003.
     
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    Marlins pound Mets 16-8 and pound 5 homers

    http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090312&content_id=3975010&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=fla

    Danny Uggla powers 2 homers. Maybin and Hermida continue torrid pace.

    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
    Florida 0 1 3 6 3 0 0 0 3 16 20 1
    NY Mets 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 6 0 8 8 2


    Standings | Recap: FLA | NYM

    Florida AB R H RBI BB SO LOB AVG
    Bonifacio, 3B-2B-SS 6 1 2 0 0 0 4 .179
    Maybin, CF 4 3 2 1 0 1 2 .346
    Tankersley, P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
    Lindsey, 1B 2 0 1 1 0 1 1 .143
    Hermida, LF 4 3 3 4 0 0 0 .391
    Stanton, RF 2 0 1 0 0 1 0 .364
    Uggla, 2B 4 2 2 3 0 0 2 .286
    Coghlan, 3B 2 0 0 0 0 1 2 .000
    Gibbons, RF 4 1 2 3 0 1 0 .313
    Raynor, RF-LF 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 .200
    Morrison, 1B 3 1 2 1 0 0 0 .222
    Pinto, P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
    Mayorson, 2B 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 .214
    Andino, SS 4 0 0 0 0 2 3 .207
    Hayes, C 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 .333
    Rabelo, C 4 1 2 0 0 0 1 .286
    Tucker, P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
    Owens, P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
    b-Ryan, PH 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 .182
    Calero, P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
    Nolasco, P 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1.000
    a-Cousins, PH-CF 2 2 1 2 1 0 0 .143
    Totals 45 16 20 15 2 9 15

    a-Walked for Nolasco in the 5th. b-Walked for Owens in the 9th.

    BATTING
    2B: Cousins (1, Stokes).
    HR: Uggla 2 (3, 2nd inning off Santana, 0 on, 0 out; 3rd inning off DeSalvo, 1 on, 2 out), Gibbons (1, 4th inning off Redding, 2 on, 2 out), Morrison (1, 4th inning off Redding, 0 on, 2 out), Hermida (3, 5th inning off Redding, 2 on, 2 out).
    TB: Bonifacio 2; Maybin 2; Lindsey; Hermida 6; Stanton; Uggla 8; Gibbons 5; Morrison 5; Hayes; Rabelo 2; Nolasco; Cousins 2.
    RBI: Uggla 3 (4), Maybin (2), Hermida 4 (9), Gibbons 3 (7), Morrison (2), Cousins 2 (2), Lindsey (1).
    2-out RBI: Uggla 2; Gibbons 3; Morrison; Hermida 3; Lindsey.
    Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Andino; Lindsey; Coghlan.
    S: Nolasco.
    Team LOB: 6.

    BASERUNNING
    CS: Bonifacio (1, 2nd base by Santana/Schneider).
    PO: Bonifacio (1st base by Santana).

    FIELDING
    E: Coghlan (1, throw).
    DP: 2 (Morrison, Bonifacio-Mayorson-Lindsey).


    NY Mets AB R H RBI BB SO LOB AVG
    Castillo, 2B 3 1 1 0 1 0 0 .300
    Veloz, 2B 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
    Sullivan, CF 4 1 0 0 1 0 2 .308
    Murphy, LF 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 .333
    Armas, P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
    Green, S, P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
    c-Mackowiak, PH-RF 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 .182
    Evans, 1B 5 1 2 3 0 2 2 .313
    Church, RF 4 1 2 0 0 0 2 .333
    Stokes, P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
    Valentin, Jo, 3B 2 0 0 0 0 2 2 .280
    Green, A, 3B 0 1 0 0 2 0 0 .267
    Schneider, C 2 1 1 0 0 1 1 .273
    Castro, R, C 2 0 0 0 0 0 3 .214
    Martinez, R, SS 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 .000
    Tejada, SS 2 0 1 2 0 0 1 .500
    Santana, P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
    DeSalvo, P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
    a-Thole, PH 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .429
    Redding, P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
    b-Kielty, PH 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .235
    Switzer, P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
    Reed, LF 2 1 1 1 0 0 1 .296
    Totals 32 8 8 8 5 5 15

    a-Grounded out for DeSalvo in the 3rd. b-Grounded out for Redding in the 5th. c-Reached on error for Green, S in the 8th.

    BATTING
    2B: Castillo (3, Nolasco), Church (4, Nolasco), Evans (2, Nolasco), Schneider (1, Tankersley).
    HR: Reed (1, 8th inning off Tucker, 0 on, 0 out), Evans (2, 8th inning off Tucker, 2 on, 1 out).
    TB: Castillo 2; Evans 6; Church 3; Schneider 2; Tejada; Reed 4.
    RBI: Murphy (4), Martinez, R (1), Reed (4), Evans 3 (8), Tejada 2 (2).
    2-out RBI: Tejada 2.
    Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Martinez, R; Valentin, Jo.
    SF: Murphy; Martinez, R.
    GIDP: Tejada.
    Team LOB: 5.

    FIELDING
    E: Sullivan (1, fielding), Tejada (1, throw).
    Pickoffs: Santana (Bonifacio at 1st base).




    Florida IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
    Nolasco (W, 2-1) 4.0 3 1 1 1 4 0 3.27
    Tankersley 1.0 1 1 1 0 0 0 9.64
    Pinto 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00
    Tucker 1.1 3 6 3 3 0 2 8.10
    Owens 0.2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.00
    Calero 1.0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0.00
    NY Mets IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
    Santana (L, 0-1) 2.2 4 3 3 0 2 1 10.13
    DeSalvo 0.1 3 1 1 0 1 1 3.38
    Redding 2.0 8 9 9 1 0 3 40.50
    Switzer 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 0 4.50
    Armas 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0.00
    Green, S 1.0 0 0 0 0 3 0 4.91
    Stokes 1.0 4 3 3 1 1 0 6.00


    WP: Tankersley, Owens, Armas.
    HBP: Murphy (by Pinto), Morrison (by Santana).
    Groundouts-flyouts: Nolasco 5-2, Tankersley 2-1, Pinto 2-1, Tucker 3-1, Owens 1-1, Calero 0-2, Santana 2-3, DeSalvo 0-0, Redding 4-2, Switzer 1-1, Armas 0-2, Green, S 0-0, Stokes 1-1.
    Batters faced: Nolasco 15, Tankersley 4, Pinto 4, Tucker 10, Owens 3, Calero 4, Santana 12, DeSalvo 4, Redding 15, Switzer 3, Armas 4, Green, S 3, Stokes 8.
    Inherited runners-scored: Owens 2-2, DeSalvo 1-1.
    Umpires: HP: Adrian Johnson. 1B: Gary Cederstrom. 2B: Paul Nauert. 3B: James Hoye.
    Weather: 75 degrees, clear.
    Wind: 5 mph, In from RF.
    T: 3:02.
    Att: 6,290.
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    Nice results. Beating the Mets is always good, spring training or not.

    Also, so much for all those fears about giving away the entire roster during the offseason. Hanley, Uggla, and Hermida are still around.
     
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    Those were largely unjustified and baseless. I do think, however, that we could see Uggla gone by midseason if we are out of it.
     
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    Hermida is at much more risk of a trade than Uggla, IMO.
     
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    Dont think so. Uggla has more value, is making more money, and has replacements that are major league ready.
     
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    Barry Jackson in today's Miami Herald is reporting......

    http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/columnists/barry-jackson/story/947411.html

    Typical of the national media. They still hate us because the Marlins knocked out the Cubs from the 2003 World Series. :tantrum:
     
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    Well I copied and pasted but it looks like you found a clean link to it.....next time I'll see if I can find that link too.
     
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    We managed to negotiate trading Hermida for Manny Ramirez and a bunch of cash, man. If Uggla is worth more, then we'd better not settle for anything less than trading Uggla away for Chase Utley and also getting Josh Beckett back. :lol:
     
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    Well it was Hermida and Mike Stanton and other prospects. If the Pirates only wanted Hermida, Manny would have been a Marlin.
     
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    Remember, the reason that deal fell through was Bud Selig's rejection of it, not because the parties didn't come to terms.
     
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    That too. Completely forgot.
     
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    Did Selig ever give a reason to nix the deal ? What was his motivation ? As I remember our deal was basically equal with what the Dodgers gave up.....was he showing hate towards the Marlins ?
     

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