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****The Official 2014-15 NBA Thread****

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by schmolioot, Jul 7, 2014.

  1. sports24/7

    sports24/7 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don't agree with that. It would be a big deal if he won 1 there, but he'd still get dinged for not winning as many as Jordan or Kobe, etc. For him to go down as the undisputed best of all time, he has to at least get close to those guys in terms of rings. His best chance to win as many rings as possible would be for him to stay in Miami next year and the following year. That's why I don't really get why people think he has to go back right now. He gets the best of both worlds if he stays in Miami for 2, then goes back to Cleveland when Irving is in his prime and Wiggins has developed.
     
  2. Limbo

    Limbo Mad Stillz

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    Lol. We should all do that.
     
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  3. Fin-Omenal

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    Thee...Ohio State University
    Very.
     
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  4. vt_dolfan

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    Heres the other thing. If he goes to Cleveland, and like in the past, they fail to put a team around him, whats he gonna do, leave again in 2 years? Talk about tarnishing your image. Here he can play two more years with Miami....maybe win another ring, then go to Cleveland and finish out his career. Once he goes to Cleveland he is STUCK IN CLEVELAND
     
  5. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    yes and no....in the end he still has rings, and undoubtedly more MVP trophys...in the end he could say he tried....
     
  6. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Windhorst lives in NY. He isnt even on the Heat Index anymore.

    Where is this coming from anyway?
     
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  7. Mrtree

    Mrtree Juan Huron's agent Club Member

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    I've already said thanks for the four great years.


    You however, I will burn your house down.
     
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  8. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You Club Member

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    When he's right, he can be like "THAT'S RIGHT, DROPPED A KOUFBOMB ON ALL Y'ALLS ASSES!"
     
  9. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    I don't agree, trophys are trophys after 2, if he wins as many or more MVP's and say surpasses his scoring title etc, but comes up short by say 1 Championship, who is going to say that Kobe was better than him? Or Jordan? Nobody...
     
  10. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I don't see Lebron going back in two years if he stays in Miami. I see him going back at age 36/37 for a farewell tour.
     
  11. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Meanwhile Tom Winter of NBC has just debunked the Trexler rumor about Bath, OH police officers preparing extra security for an announcement.
     
  12. NaboCane

    NaboCane Banned

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    I'll be upset for a different reason. I'll be livid that men who get paid to have their fingers on the pulse of the league missed the obvious, when another perfect example was right there to show us why this was a failed venture—if, in fact, LeBron leaves and the team falls apart.

    The example was Derrick Rose and the Chicago Bulls.

    Have you noticed the lack of a stream of upper-echelon players lining up to play in Chicago alongside Derrick—for the maximum, for the minimum, nor for anything in-between.

    Because nobody wants to play with a broken superstar. No one with any championship aspirations wants to take a chance on a guy who broke, and then came back supposedly fixed, and then proved to be broken again. Nobody, no how.

    Those of us not wearing the heat-colored glasses saw this season, and in this postseason, that Dwyane Wade was our Derrick Rose. Wade was—and forgive the bluntness and the cruelty of this thought—the cripple that superstars don't want to have to drag around with them, pretending it's all okay, and we're still a band of brothers, and we're gonna get through this, and you'll be fine again soon and when you are, son, you gonna make them pay!

    Nobody. No how.

    Why did Riley's voodoo, which worked to a scary degree in 2010 and later in convincing guys like Ray Allen to sign on to win championships with 3 superstars, why did it fail to attract any but TWO THIRD-TIER guys, one of whom the whole league is still scratching their collective head and wondering "Huh?!"?

    Because one leg of the titanium tripod is broken; and it was supposed to be "fixed," yet proved to be either still broken, or still a ways off; and who knows how long that would be? Is it permanent?

    A man like Pat Riley, who has ruthlessly, coldly discarded players and coaches when they no longer served the ultimate goal of winning it all, got some focacta notion of "loyalty" in his head, and gave Wade a pass, and somehow thought that the elite players in the league would somehow, magically do the same. He even miscalculated the effect that the matter would have on the centerpiece of his ongoing triumph—the greatest player in the game, possibly the best of all time—LeBron James.

    Riley himself seemed to be wearing the Heat-colored glasses when he looked at Dwyane Wade and thought that everyone else would overlook the dark side of the spectrum if it were to come to pass that Wade had played his last game at a top-ten level some time ago. He ignored what everyone saw; or, what they couldn't actually see in order to decide if Wade is Derrick Rose or Kobe Bryant, or a worst-case scenario of Grant Hill, which is an even scarier thing on which to carelessly wager the precious prime years of your athletic career.

    If LeBron leaves, I'll be disappointed. More than that, to be honest; we've had so precious little to cheer in Miami sports that losing James will be a gut-punch from which, if we're truly honest with ourselves, we won't recover for some time.

    But the galling thing, the thing that will make me angry, is that men who are supposed to be the great minds at the top of that building which houses the Heat offices, will have willfully, or possibly naively ignored something which was obvious even to us simple fans. Some of us, anyway. The rest will continue to argue otherwise.
     
  13. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    More dumb stuff.

    @PhilTrexler Folks in Bath feel strongly that LBJ will sign w/ CLE. LBJ's camp contacted cops hour ago to alert them of tonight's annoucement. #kingjames
    ‏@Tom_Winter Bath Township, Ohio police -- home to Lebron James -- tells NBC News they are NOT preparing for an announcement or extra police details.
     
  14. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Hah. Oops.
     
  15. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I continue to lament that Bovada does not have a line up on LeBron's destination.
     
  16. sports24/7

    sports24/7 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    People don't care about MVPs. Kobe only won 1. People care about rings. That's always the argument against LeBron compared to Jordan. And he'll have to win multiple championships in CLE to get close to Jordan, and that's not going to happen IMO. It could here.
     
  17. Mrtree

    Mrtree Juan Huron's agent Club Member

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    I've said it before. The world is full of people who think Occum's Razor is a shaving apparatus
     
  18. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    ...
     
  19. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    Yeah, BOL has nothing either. They had one for Peyton. Can't think of another they've had.
     
  20. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    And it sounds as dumb as when people say Marino wasn't an all-time great because he has none....
     
  21. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Hmm...
     
  22. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Per Woj; Cleveland pressed Celtics/Nets to complete Jack trade because cap space was needed "immediately". Trade is now complete.

    Who the hell knows?
     
  23. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    What's the purpose of leaking that info?

    Really, it serves nobody.
     
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  24. ckparrothead

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    Revenge
     
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  25. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Mike Ryan on 790 making a good point that the "immediately" leak sounds like a desperate Cleveland leak.

    What is the rush? As long as LeBron commits, he can physically sign the contract whenever. Whether it's today, tomorrow or a week from now.
     
  26. Rouk

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    that happened bc of the boston side trade exception was going to expire we knew about that yesterday
     
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  27. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    So it's a desperate Cleveland leak.
     
  28. ckparrothead

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    Sam Amico has clarified. He says there are no less than 5 police officers at LeBron James home and that they are expecting a 3:30pm ET announcement.

    I'm about to start click-banging LeBron James' website, LOL.
     
  29. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Not sure if true....

     
  30. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Why would a mob show up? Only because you are mad thats why...happy people get drunk at bars while celebrating...
     
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  31. Desides

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    There are so many things wrong with this statement. The sheer lack of perspective is baffling, let alone the lack of facts.

    Dwyane Wade missed 28 games. Derrick Rose missed two years.

    Dwyane Wade looked phenomenal when he played except for the Spurs series. Derrick Rose looks phenomenal in a suit.

    I can keep going.
     
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  32. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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  33. GARDENHEAD

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    Lebron will never be perceived as better than Jordan. He can win 8 rings and Jordan supporters will say Jordan went 6-0 in the Finals. Lebron's already lost 3 finals.

    I won't be surprised either way he goes.
     
  34. Limbo

    Limbo Mad Stillz

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    How does this whole thing keep getting crazier...cops clued into the announcement?
     
  35. NaboCane

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  36. SICK

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    lol yeah we have to win 8 games for 10 years and change quarterbacks 17 times.....
     
  37. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Yeah and nothing at his Miami house and he is in neither place soooo.
     
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  38. NaboCane

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    That lack of perspective is yours, and YOURS alone.

    I point out the impact that a possible permanent diminishment of Dwyane Wade would have on the decision-making process of the leagues players, and you just keep looking at things from your own fan's perspective.
     
  39. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    this site is slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
     
  40. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    There's a pic around the web showing one police cruiser outside LJ's house. Certainly no massive police presence.
     

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