That's a 30 second skim I won't get back.

Suggesting that the season is over 6 games in at .500 is asinine, even half jokingly. Losing to the Bills sucks a lot, but this is where a lot of fairly optimistic outlooks at the team at this point.

 

I could be wrong but it looked like Hartline had no idea what was happening on that overthrow

 

Looked like he was expecting the ball to be over his outside shoulder toward the sideline. When the ball was released, it looked like it was going toward his inside shoulder. The ball ended up pretty much directly over his head, not toward one shoulder or the other. I think the placement was as bad as the overthrow.

 

I'd have to see it again and I'm not trying to excuse the pass at all. You may be right that the placement was worse because Hartline cost himself a couple of steps trying to track it

 

It's the same rubbernecking phenomena that causes back-ups near traffic accidents that have pulled off the road.

Seriously, Vaginosis?

 

We just lost 3 in a row. The lastest coming off a bye, at home, against Thaddeus Lewis and the running back less Bills. Make fun of me all you want. But this season is done. We aren't winning 6 or 7 more games this season that's for sure. No playoffs = season over.

 

Definitely not.

 

Maybe add Kaepernick to the list. Philip Rivers on a good day. Thats about it.

 

Also I swear I saw a bills defender covering Hartline wearing a cast. WTF?

 

Also see: Rose, Derrick.

 

The Hartline overthrow was a ball you expect big time QB's to make. However, once again, he was being rushed heavily, moving up in the pocket throwing off one leg. It wasn't ideal to make a wonderful throw. I just expect him to give Hartline a chance.

When does the coaching take a little bit of heat? Cam Wake wasn't in the game because Philbin said that was there decision. Tyson Clabo was playing at RT because they believe he's the best guy they have. Daniel Thomas and Lamar Miller keep sharing carries and they've yet to understand "who has the hottest hand". For me, this game was so disappointing because it was double impact. Ryan Tannehill played poor, other than 3 drives. He played poor. We missed tackles at important times. And of course the offensive line showed it's ugly head at the worst time. But, we come out of a bye, at home, against an inferior opponent and we go down 14 points immediately? We lose that game? I'm sorry. The coaching staff needs to take some brunt too. They're stubborn & un-flexible. It's irritating.

 

I think it's worth pointing out that many of the top QBs in the league play like absolute garbage for large stretches in the game and make up for it. Guys like Flacco and Ben come to mind. I have seen many Steelers and Ravens victories where the QB only has 3 good drives in the whole game. Idk. I might be turning into an apologist, but I also have to wonder where our standards should be

 

About the worst thing that could happened did in NJ yesterday.....

Brady is pissed, BB is STILL *****ing about that penality and they lost.....now they play Miami this week up here.....

They are going to stick a blowtorch up Miami's anus....

 

Regression to the mean.

 

I like the list section.... But, I really believe this is on Philbin. Every week we come out flat, and have to make halftime adjustments, that should really have been installed to begin with. He's responsible for everyone being ready, for coaches getting their guys ready and for play schemes and I just don't see how he's succeeding. Maybe it's too much responsibility, maybe he's a better coordinator, maybe he's too stubborn to make changes. I understand that coaches don't play, but these guys look like they've been handed keys to a Porsche with no wheels.

 

Yeah I mean Tanny should not have thrown that ball by any means, but we come out in the 1st possession and the Bills DB knows exactly what the play is? Then we have the balls to run it again

 

Nah, we're still in it.

 

I'm starting to agree with you and it kills me. Philbin let Sherman call a pass on 2nd and 8. That playcall is the reason we're not 4-2 right now, and the buck stops with Philbin.

 

F*** Them. The way they have played this season, I think they're scared s***less that they'll lose to us. More pressure on them IMO.

I expect us to come into that game pissed off as well. Hopefully we see the same effort and execution that we demonstrated in the Colts game.

 

So, I just listened to Philbin's presser and it irritated the hell out of me. Deep down, you're looking for reasons to blame, and just was holding this idea that Philbin was a problem down. But, the presser just did it for me.

It upsets me that the players had a predetermined about of snaps - Jordan & Wake specifically. If those players are healthy, which the player and coach confirmed, how can you not feel those players (graded by scouts, PFF, pundits, and passing the eye test) give you the best chance to win? Or that in certain situations shouldn't be on the field? It's like if a pitcher has a 100 pitch count, depending on the situation you may forgo that number and allow them 107 pitches to get out of the inning. There is just no flexibility there.

I'm also beginning to question if Joe Philbin and his coaches ACTUALLY KNOW the players that give them the best chance to win. I don't think they do.

 

Maybe it's just me, but if my best players are able to go - they are out there. Pre-game predetermined snap count be damned. Football is always situational.

 

Personally don't know why that throw to Hartline has become a sticking point.

He was pressured because Tyson Clabo was once again getting his own *** handed to him. He had to step up and make a pressured throw on the move as a defensive tackle was laying right into him.

I don't believe any quarterback makes that throw in that situation consistently. Median completion percentages when under pressure are about 46%. Do you imagine that percentage is going to go up, or down, if you were to isolate pressured throws 40+ yards down the field? I'm going to say quarterbacks make that throw maybe one time in five generally speaking, and some of the best ones out there make that throw maybe one time in three.

It's too bad Tannehill hasn't shown us the ability to make an incredible throw on the move under heavy pressure in a critical situation yet this season. What's that you say about the very last game the team played prior to this one? Something about 4th & 10? Oh...

 

Tannehill sucks should cut him, I told you Moore was better!!!!!! (Rolling eyes)

 

I am done arguing with ARM chair qbs its pointless we overanalize everything. RT can't make that throw that was overthrown to hartline. nope neither would 29 other qbs getting hit as they threw.

Like I said RT has improving to do, he is in 2nd year. He may not make it but I swear some can't wait for a bad play, a bad game to say "see I told you I was right"

 

His ability to escape pressure on the last two throws of the games were an amazing throw away from being a heroic play that will go down in the history of the NFL. Especially on breaking two tackles on the hail mary.

 

Yes, too bad our WRs didn't make the same level of effort to catch the damn thing. All 3 were out positioned by the Bills DBs.

 

Chances of making the catch was so small. Gibson was in position to try, Wallace was there for the freakish bounce forward and Hartline was in position for the bounce back. Bills did a good job of wapping it down.

 

I don't agree with the way you're thinking about it though, in terms of who can make that throw and who can't. By the way I have seen Brady and Peyton make that throw in that situation several times.

All I'm saying is nobody makes that throw consistently. Like I said, the BEST quarterbacks at executing in those circumstances probably make that throw on one out of three attempts. Tannehill just made several incredible throws like that in the Baltimore game. Missing one in the next game does not suddenly un-member him from any kind of exclusive club of QBs that can make that throw.

 

That hail mary was stupefying how he was able to get away from that pressure.

And also stupefying how incredibly quickly the pocket collapsed on a four-man rush on a play where the offensive linemen had to know they needed to give Tannehill at least 3 seconds to wind up and throw that ball.