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****The Official Trade Discussion Thread****

Discussion in 'Trades' started by Boik14, Jan 31, 2012.

  1. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Just do it for all of us, Paul. We know you got PLEEEENTY of time! :tongue2:
     
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  2. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Flip the names and ask the same question. Both valid.
     
  3. Big E

    Big E Plus sized porn star

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    I disagree. When Clark is out of the line up the D still is consistently good, however the year Troy went down to injury the defense struggled.
     
  4. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    You mean three years ago? Troy hasn't been all that great in coverage.
     
  5. Big E

    Big E Plus sized porn star

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    agreed, but he's a general when he's out there and a huge factor in blitz packages. Teams have to adjust offense around TP, however Clark does not get that kind of respect IMO.
     
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  6. Big E

    Big E Plus sized porn star

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    ok Paul my turn lol....
     
  7. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    How's he the general when Clark makes the calls? I agree with the rest.
     
  8. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    haven't you heard enough from me bro? :wink2:
     
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  9. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Well, Clark is a little overshadowed behind TP, I get your point. He means a lot to that secondary in all the calls that he makes and the communication that is a must. But we can't honestly compare him to the future hall of famer can we?
     
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  10. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    1) Thats not Ernie Sims, its OG Rob Sims. Steelers are still staying 3-4. Harrison at 34, before he renegotiated....Sims is one of the top guards last year.
    2) If you look at Timmons PFF rating its pretty average. I know Okung has a below average rating but 5 sacks, 3 hits and 24 pressures in 450+ pass attempts is on par with some of the better tackles in the league playing in front of blah QB's.
    3) Roy Miller = 0 technique NT. Hes sure as hell not a 4-3 over tackle.
    4) Hughes has a starting job in Indy under Pagano in real life. I feel pretty good we were right about Hughes here. Never felt comfortable with him as a 4-3 rush end...big year for him I think. Love what he can bring to the table....

    Thanks for the input....Theres still plenty more coming....
     
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  11. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Polamalu was PFF's #1 rated S last year and 4th in coverage so it couldnt have been too bad....
     
  12. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I'm not saying he's a HOFer but I am saying that he's been very effective and he's being overlooked. He's bailed out Polamalu many times yet no one says anything.
     
  13. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    He's had issues with discipline on multiple occasions.
     
  14. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Maybe but hes not getting burnt on it apparently.
     
  15. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Burnt as in?

    His issues have been quite glaring when you watch him.
     
  16. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I watch him pretty regularly...his style of play is different then everyone elses yet even on a conventional grading system like PFF he grades out better then everyone else at either safety position
     
  17. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    He takes a lot of risks and if Steelers are playing a good QB that takes advantage of it it will hurts. Saw Tebow do it to him in the play off game. Still would rather have Troy than most other safeties.
     
  18. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Didn't say he's not better than others but he has had issues. You can see them when you watch him.
     
  19. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    That's what you get for not putting the first names in there then :wink2:
     
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  20. ToddsPhins

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    thank you. I do my best. :knucks:
     
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  21. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    1 Tebow is not a good QB. He shouldnt even be playing QB.....in the CFL. 2. Tavares drew a +3.1 rating by PFF in that game and only a -0.7 rating in pass coverage which basically equates to maybe 2 blown plays all game.

    Every player has issues. The only perfect players ever were Jerry Rice and Dan the Man in his prime :)
     
  22. ToddsPhins

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    I always wonder what Marino would've been like if he ever got over his ego and allowed our offense to be more multi-dimensional. Would that have changed anything?
     
  23. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Obviously but you're missing the point.
     
  24. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Or I dont agree with the point youre making:)
     
  25. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    I know Tebow isn't a good QB so what does that say about Troy to be getting faked out by Tebow? He is still top 5 FS in the league.
     
  26. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    So why not just say that? :)
     
  27. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Btw Boik go make your pick.
     
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  28. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Bad game? A couple of bad plays?

    I dont know....lol
     
  29. ToddsPhins

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    Michael Mitchell reminded me of Louis Oliver.
    Kid hits like a battering ram.
     
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  30. finsbuck719

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    I'm working on revamping my defense to become more physical. I doubt he'll end up being my starter (although, him and Sands are my only safeties on my roster right now lol) but I like his physicality. He's exciting.
     
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  31. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    yeah, if I were the Raiders I wouldn't give up on the small school 2nd rounder too quickly. :shifty:
     
  32. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    We didn't. He's a perfect sub package passing down LOS player.
     
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  33. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    2 whole days since a trade? What the deuce is going on?
     
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  34. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    yeah, the more active gms are all traded out. just wait some more will happen
     
  35. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    For the large fee of one 6th rounder you could change all that with the ole on his last leg waiting to be put out of his misery Polamalu. :yes:
     
  36. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I know...I guess your sarcasm detector was off or maybe the alarm wasnt loud enough :)
    for a 6th round pick you could talk about acquiring Polamalu. Nothing will actually happen but you can talk about it...to yourself :shifty:
     
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  37. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    There's your blockbuster for the day, Boik.
     
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  38. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    Joseph Addai, DJ Williams, #4 overall.....I'm still willing to wheel and deal.
     
  39. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    get on aim.
     
  40. ToddsPhins

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    Deal. The pleasure of talking to myself is well worth a 6th rounder.
     
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