well, that was complete garbage for a hundred reasons that have already been stated. But you go ahead and keep starting new threads everytime you find some random person that writes a story that supports Ireland being incompetent.

 

I wish there was a 1 million "Fist Pump" button. I'd use it for this post^^^

 

I hate this uninformed nonsense people keep saying about Flynn. We didn't swing and miss.

If you want to use the baseball analogy, we were looking for a first pitch fast ball down the middle (a cheap contract), if it was outside the zone we weren't going to swing (let him walk)

If Philbin truly thought Flynn was THAT good, and worth tying his coaching future to, don't you think he might've urged us to beat Seattle's offer?

Fact is, Flynn is an unproven commodity, and there's a reason he went in the 7th round. He doesn't have Franchise QB "tools".

Consider, he played 2 NFL games his whole career, with one of the best most consistent offenses in those years. By far the best WR corps.

And who'd he light up? The NE D, and the Lions D. Not exactly the 85 bears.

Get a grip with this Flynn-sanity

 

Please list those 100 reasons, because I've yet to hear three that are valid.

 

This :deadhorse:

 

By the way, I think you guys are thinking Philbin has a lot more say than he actually does. Does anyone remember why Fisher didn't come here?

 

How egotistical do you really believe Ireland is? He knows that his future is tied to finding a QB just as much as Philbin's is.

Let's consider motives.

Philbin and Ireland- Want to win
Getting a franchise QB- helps them win
Philbin- Knows Flynn better than anyone else in the NFL

Putting these three logical sentences together as context to the situation, what makes you think Ireland wouldn'tve offered a bigger contract if Philbin thought Flynn was anything more than a backup/ borderline starter?

It's just logic, even the most ardent Ireland detractors should be able to see this.

 

You didn't start this thread... I mean rant. Smoot apparently did, and apparently you think you deserve to have your own thread rather than posting this outside OPINION in one of the threads already discussing the topic. peep-peep-peep-peep.

 

F Fisher, I didn't want him here anyways.

 

Well, we lost out on Fisher because of Ireland wanting to have more control. Is that not egotistical? Honestly, I don't know what Ireland's future is tied to at this point. The guy is made of Teflon. And LOL at you pointing out "logic" to Ireland detractors. Just stop. We're a 20-28 a team over the last 3 seasons. That's the only logic you need.

 

Stop man. We haven't won a playoff game in 12 years. Just stop.

 

But if he became Coach you'd love him, right? Am I taking crazy pills here? I'm gonna go lie down.

 

Because going 6-10 every year is much better than making the playoffs.

 

No, we don't like when threads exist on the subject yet you feel the need to scream louder than everyone by creating your own thread instead in order to make sure everyone hears you.

 

No, he's the GM he's supposed to have control. If anyone was egotistical in that it was Fisher, he's a coach.

 

:omg: :omg: Not the Smoot Letter!! Errbody run.... quick..... grab a pen & paper.... Ipad.... sumpin..... anything to make sure you don't miss this outstanding nugget of insight. :shifty:

 

We were 1-15 before this regime got here. We had a fluky season because we made a saavy pickup of Pennington. This drove up expectations, while the team wasn't truly ready. There is always a bit of mediocrity before the breakout year. Rome wasn't built in a day.

Also, I don't know why you would WANT Fisher that bad? The guy is a fossil at this point. Great coach, for sure, but not worth bringing in a new GM and starting the rebuild totally over for.

 

I wish there were 1 million bullets I could use for this thread. :gun_bandana: [opening post]

 

and if manning was here you'd think ireland waaaaaaassssssssss.......

 

Nope, not everyone, just those who quote Snoop.. I mean.. what's his name again?

 

Holy hell gents.....WHY ARE WE HAVING THE SAME DEBATE EVERY....SINGLE....DAY? Unless there is new news....can we stop?


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I agree with the assertion that the organization appears directionless. I'd even agree that we're failing to find impact players. HOWEVER - I'll with hold condemning ireland until seeing what happens this year, both for the draft, and Philbins use of talent he brought in. Its certainly plausible the last regime - no matter how loved by players - was just awful at putting young talent to use.

I do think Ireland will need to do a great job in the draft, and will need some big time help from the coaching/performance of the team if he wants to keep his job...unless hes really that far up Ross' ***, but hopefully we never have to worry about it.

 

So what you're essentially saying is the irrational Ireland dislikers (the ones clamoring over the "failed Flynn attempt") believe Colt McCoy is our answer at QB since the Browns wouldn't even look at Flynn? :shifty:




Great post by the way. Too bad we cant switch the title of this thread to "The Aqua4Ever04 Letter" and bump your post to the very top instead.

 

You can spin it all you want to in an attempt to support Ireland, but the fact is the fans in South Florida aren't buying it. The reality is that season tickets sales are at their lowest level in over forty years. Nearly thirty thousand former season ticket holders have given up their tickets in recent years because they no longer support the direction Ireland and Ross have taken this team. If Ross wants to sell more tickets, he needs to fire Ireland and hire a GM who actually has a plan on how to turn this team around. Until Ireland is out of here, less and less seats will occupied by paying customers.

If Ross doesn't care about his team playing before a half empty stadium, he can go right ahead and keep the clueless Ireland.

 

Not having Final say is not the same thing as having no say. You are equally naive if you think that Philbin didn't have a pretty good amount say in what was up in Flynn, no matter how incompetent you think Ireland is.

 

Actually I don't have to believe that. Barry Jackson reported months ago that people in Miami's front office weren't particularly high on Flynn.

Also, Ireland tried to sign Garrard last year. You think Philbin came in and was like, "You know the guy we need to go get is David Garrard"?

 

The comparison stems from the fact that both teams switched front offices at the same time.

 

But heeeeeeeeeeees noooooooooooooooooot

 

Could it be that Philbin's say got Philbin brought in and Ireland's final say meant us passing on him? Final say is kinda a big deal.

 

Yes it could. It s is it guaranteed that's what happened? No. But you're sure enough to want the man fired.

 

When you start using Fred Smoot as a source you are officially off the reservation.

 

Yes, I want him fired. I've wanted him fired for the last year or so. He should've been on his way out the door with Sparano. What's happened in the last several weeks wasn't the tipping point, merely the squirming on the ground.

The letter that Adam Smoot wrote was brilliant in so many ways. Especially when he talked about direction. He pointed out that Ireland has no real direction. Peyton's available? Let's go after him. Flynn? Sure, let's go after him. Build through the draft? Yeah, let's do that. It's frustrating. Matt Moore was supposed to be a backup, and now he's the starter? Matt Moore who went 6-6, and now he's without his leading receiver, THAT Matt Moore?

And now Ireland was quoted as saying "I feel pretty confident about our QB situation right now." /hangs self

 

I can't understand the people here defending Ireland so vehemently. At the very least, he's done nothing to improve this organization. How can you be so antagonistic in defending a 7-9 season over and over and over again?

I get being sick of the same repetitive posts but to be so angry that anyone says they hate Ireland.... it makes no sense