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This Team is Chronically Sick - Don't expect winning until we're cured.

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Galant, Oct 3, 2021.

  1. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity Staff Member Club Member

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    Some further thoughts on this.

    What HC worth his salt is going to want to come to Miami?
    Do Ross and Grier see how this looks?
    A HC came to work for them. They chose him.
    He became pretty well.loved among some, at least and had some success during a hard rebuild.
    They're saying that they believe in the roster they have assembled but they're also saying the HC can choose his QB.
    However, Grier chose the QB with Flores, his own HC, and apparently they were in disagreement with either the choice itself or the readiness of the QB last year, and Grier got his choice of QB, maybe not Flores.So will the HC really get to choose? And it seems like Grier and/or Ross forced Flores to start Tua over Fitz and in such a way that the OC found out about it via the news...

    It sounds like Ross and/or Grier are domineering and will cut anyone who isn't on board with them.

    Whatever Flores' faults, and maybe he was a monster, Grier and Ross still don't look good hear.

    I don't think anyone will actually want to come here. But we might get someone who has no other options whether because he isn't great or is a first time HC. Whatever the case, it likely won't last

    We have a high level leadership problem in this franchise. We will not be a winning, successful franchise until it is resolved.

    The dysfunction is real.
     
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  2. OwesOwn614

    OwesOwn614 Well-Known Member

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    I cosign everything you posted. I cannot stand Stephen Ross. And although Flo's constantly rotating coaching staff was unsustainable, it's clear that his defense was good/great because it followed his lead. The offense was a muddle, but since the trade deadline, it seems to have become much more cohesive from a cultural standpoint. The man coached a consistently sub-mediocre team to its first back-to-back winning seasons in 20 years and got fired. I agree, I can't see any really hot candidates wanting to step into a job knowing he's on the hot seat on day one. Harbaugh's coming to Miami and Ross denied it because he doesn't want to be seen as ignoring the Rooney Rule. Watch.

    Seriously, we play the same stoopid games and win the same stoopid prizes under Ross and I'm just tired. Personally, I had plenty of problems with Flo. I put a huge amount of blame for this season on him. But with that being said, terminating him seems to be a disingenuous way to achieving some other end. If I had money to bet, we're going to see both Watson and Harbaugh in Miami in the next month. I may be on the cusp of being a much more casual Dolphins fan than I was yesterday.
     
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  3. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity Staff Member Club Member

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    There's talk saying Flores and Watson were connected. If that's true and Watson doesn't end up in jail or without a career, then if we see Watson playing for Flores elsewhere that will confirm it.

    If Watson still comes to Miami without Flores we'll know that was nonsense.

    Lots of talk denying the Harbaugh thing. I've no idea what's real there.

    We just have to wait and see, and hopefully this won't take 6 months to get sorted. But something is wrong with Grier and/or Ross. So I don't think this teams succeeds unless something changes there, or they luck into the exact perfect fit of a HC to go along with their mindset. Which is unlikely.
     
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  4. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    After this firing, I can’t argue with you anymore. Ross is the beginning and ending of our problems . He’s been the one constant in this s***show
     
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  5. KeyFin

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    I'm not going to stop being a Dolphins fan but man- we go from sweeping the Pats to starting over in 24 hours. I almost guarantee that there will be some players who want out after this...and they're all going to be on the defensive side of the ball. Talk about killing the mood for the offseason. I can honestly say that I do not want to be a Dolphins fan anymore with Ross at the helm.
     
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  6. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    Hey, our rebuild is getting a rebuild! Thats the Grier and Ross way!
     
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  7. Deus ex dolphin

    Deus ex dolphin Well-Known Member

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    Rebuild inception.
     
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    Pennphinphan AKA Pennphinfan but I forgot my login

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  9. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity Staff Member Club Member

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    "The QB decision will be up.to the next head coach."

    So said Ross.

    It was weird at the time and now, sure enough, it's not the case.



    Dysfunctional franchise.

    This isn't the Miami Dolphins I fell in love with. The name is there, the colours, they occupy the space, but this isnt the Dolphins.

    The team I love and want to follow is only a memory long since gone.

    Until an owner who loves football and has some integrity takes over, Miami will be run be imposters.

    It's sad.
     
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  10. Fireland

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    Expectation and plan doesn't necessarily mean it isn't up to the coach to be fair

    But they probably aren't going to hire a coach that wants them to go trade for Jimmy G either and with a mediocre draft class what else do we expect them to do other then stick with Tua? Its probably the only realistic plan.
     
  11. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity Staff Member Club Member

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    It's not sticking with Tua that bugs me. It's the spin and lies and other dysfunction.
     
  12. Rouk

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    Ross doesn’t make football decisions. If and thats a big if since it’s never been confirmed that call to watson happened. I bet it was about protecting his franchise from pr more than caring about watson. He literally lets the coach and gm do whatever they want. Its always been his mo. I dont care who the coach is, if you draft a qb top 5 and want to dump him after he plays 9 games where you were never all in on him in the first place pulling him for fitz etc. Then you deserve to get fired. Even if tua ends up the worst qb in the nfl. You dont get to move off him that quick and keep your job. This is why grier should have been fired also but im guessing he stayed because he believes in tua and pointed at flores not even giving it a chance to work.
     
  13. JJ_79

    JJ_79 Well-Known Member

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    We did have way better times...
     
  14. JJ_79

    JJ_79 Well-Known Member

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    Watching Allen destroy the Cheatriots, it doesn’t really matter, it’s going to be hard to win the AFC East. They seem to have a good front office good HC and they got their franchise QB all things we don’t have…
     
  15. KeyFin

    KeyFin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Umm, don't forget that we just destroyed the Patriots as well...
     
  16. JJ_79

    JJ_79 Well-Known Member

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    Then we should be fighting for the AFC crown next season, right?
     
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  17. KeyFin

    KeyFin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Against Buffalo, yes.
     
  18. JJ_79

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    I believe it, when I see it with my own eyes…
     

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