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Thread; Draft Rumors/Reports That Could Impact Dolphins

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Pennington's Limp Arm, Apr 26, 2021.

  1. Pennington's Limp Arm

    Pennington's Limp Arm Well-Known Member

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    It’s draft week. Let the craziness begin.
    We already have a mock draft thread to post all the incoming final Mocks.

    Figured I’d start a thread where we can post and discuss all the incoming rumours that could impact the Dolphins draft or impact Prospects that Miami could be interested in.

    I’ll start with a few I’m seeing today;

    1)Atlanta more Likely to take a pass catcher... Pitts OR CHASE now in play?


    2)Chargers trying to move up to get Sewell ?

    3) Ooops!!?



    4) Older clip; Dallas showing hand, Love them some Kyle Pitts and sugar plums?
     
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  2. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    If Chaze and Pitts are off the board, I’d gladly trade back with the Cowboys, Chargers or anyone above them for the right price.
     
  3. Pennington's Limp Arm

    Pennington's Limp Arm Well-Known Member

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    PFN’s Tony Pauline is saying Dolphins like pass rushers at 18.


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    47:30 -they talk Dolphins pick 18;
    17:00 - They talk pick #6. Suggests Dolphins traded out of 3 bc not comfortable taking an opt out that high.


    I personally like both of the guys he suggests we are looking at! Ojulari was a beast production wise in the SEC and is still considered raw. So much upside.
     
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  4. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    If I were to make a prediction now Miami takes DE/OLB at 18 and then trades up from 36 to take an RB.
     
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  5. daphins

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    This is interesting. Do you think Atlanta going WR makes them more likely to take Chase or Pitts?

    I'll be happy with any of the Pitts, Smith, or Chase. I'd accept Waddle if it meant we snagged Sewell and paid a bit to move up and get him mid-high teen's.

    Thursday will be fun regardless.
     
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  6. M1NDCRlME

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    If they burn the 6 or 18 on a D player i just might throw my laptop across the house. Also, no need to **** around and get cute; just take the best available TE/WR or WR with the 6, and Harris or Etienne with the 18. WE NEED PLAYMAKERS ON O!!!!!!
     
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  7. mlb1399

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    Edge rushers are just vastly more important to winning football games these days and should be considered over a RB at 18. Agree that we should be targeting playmaker at 6 but depends on who falls to us and who’s willing to trade up/for what.
     
  8. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    You can't have too many playmakers on D.
     
  9. Pennington's Limp Arm

    Pennington's Limp Arm Well-Known Member

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    I have a feeling the current brass just does not value RB. They passed on Jonathan Taylor, Akers and Dobbins (rumoured pre draft they loved JK) last year at 39.

    They could be of the running backs don’t matter crowd. I Guess we’ll find out soon. Maybe at 36, but I have a hard time seeing us trade up for one.
     
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  10. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    I understand that, however, Miami also really needed a OL last year.

    I know people don't like the Noah pick, however CB is very important for Flores defense and he has excellent measurables while showing improving CB play.

    Miami had A LOT of needs in last years draft. They have less this year.
     
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  11. Pennington's Limp Arm

    Pennington's Limp Arm Well-Known Member

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    Very True, QB, OL, DT and corner are vastly improved compared to draft time last year. So team is in a better place to use a luxury pick on RB.

    The analytics nerds who say always punt on RB, will still argue it’s a waste.
    In 10 games last year Gaskin was #8 in the league amongst RB’s in Yds from scrimmage per game.

    -He was #1 in AFC East
    -Also Higher number than guys like;
    E.Elliott, Edwards-Helaire, Jacobs, K. Drake, Miles Sanders, JK Dobbins ect.

    UDFA rookie James Robinson also made the top 8 in that category. Ahead of every single RB that got drafted last year.

    Maybe it’s coincidence this brass hasn’t spent capital on RB or maybe it’s an analytics strategy. I’m not even sure, just speculating.
     
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  12. Pennington's Limp Arm

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    If this plays out. Pick 4 has to be a pass catcher correct ?
     
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  13. invid

    invid Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Good idea for a thread and thanks for the updates.
     
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  14. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Gaskin proved he could play in the league last year and would be a fine starter if Miami didn't draft a runningback.

    However, the top three in this draft has a chance to be special, so I am happy with that luxury. Especially with 4 picks in the top 50. However, Miami might feel different.
     
  15. KeyFin

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    I read a Herald article this morning that said of the top 4 receivers (including Pitts), Miami likes Smith the least. No idea if there's any truth to that, but it felt like it fit this thread nicely.

    To counter that, I've also read this past month that Smith was our favorite of the four, LOL. So I'm not sure if I'm providing any serious intel here. =)
     
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  16. Pennington's Limp Arm

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    From one of the most accurate Mock Drafters the past few years.

    Also the Giants have taken Georgia players in each of the last 2 1st rounds.

    Maybe Ojulari doesn’t make it to 18. I’m really hoping we have our choice of him or Paye .
     
  17. TheHighExhaulted

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    Gaskin can play and he's a nice piece in a rotational backfield maybe touching the ball 12 times a game.

    I wouldn't call him a fine "starting running back" in the NFL though if you're implying he can be a 25 carry a game player effectively.
     
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  18. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    only two runningbacks last year averaged over 18 carries a game.

    That 25 carry a game player doesn't exist in the modern NFL.
     
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  19. Ronnie Bass

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    I look at it this way, the window is closing on Matt Ryan, the Falcons should be loading up on weapons with the ones they already have to make one last run, getting rid of Jones doesn't do that as they'll take a step back as he's elite talent, maybe they're prepping for a rebuild with a new QB like Fields and now is the time to sell.

    Fields is a Georgia kid too. Just saying.....
     
  20. TheHighExhaulted

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    That was sort of my point.

    Rotation is the way to go and draft picks shouldn't be spent on running backs in the first three rounds.
     
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  21. texanphinatic

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    They have 2 issues, they have been bad for awhile and are getting worse. Adding Pitts isn't changing that frankly. That defense is abysmal.

    The other problem is that Ryan's contract makes trading or releasing him borderline impossible this year and even next year unless they eat a lot of money. A lot lot. But ... a top 4 draft choice with some raw but insanely talented guys like Trey Lance? That has to be intriguing longer term than just giving Matt Ryan more weapons that won't equate to wins.

    I just feel that if they really can't bring themselves to take Lance or someone of that ilk, they need to trade out whatever it takes. Load up for the future. New GM, new Coach - why hitch yourself to Matt Ryan at this point?
     
  22. Striking

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    49ers focused on Lance or Jones at #3.

    Fantastic news for Miami. To me the Falcons are more likely to take or trade out of 4 with Fields and Lance out there.
     
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  23. mlb1399

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    Completely agree. I view it as a win no matter what happens there. If they go Pitts and Cincy takes Chase, there’s gonna be a QB hungry team we can trade back with and still snag Parsons, Waddle, Smith or Sewell.

    If Atlanta trades to a QB hungry team or take one themselves, we’ll have either Chase or Pitts which is a big win for us either way.
     
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  24. Fireland

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    Probably have to trade with Denver if you still want to land one of the offensive players. 9 and 40 would have felt like a much better result if they hadn't traded up to get here.
     
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  25. KeyFin

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    I don't see how you pass on Sewell if you're Cinci- they HAVE TO protect Burrow at all costs. I've heard that Burrow is pushing hard for Chase though, so who knows what happens there.

    My gut tells me that the #4 pick is a quarterback, even if it's not the Falcons on the clock. So all we really need is for Atlanta and Cinci to make the most logical moves at #4 and 5 to set us up with our choice of elite prospects. With us getting down to the wire here, I think Pitts is the guy that makes the most sense for Miami if the chips fall in place. However, I won't be mad regardless since it HAS TO BE Sewell, Pitts or Chase.....it just has to be. And all three are very solid choices in a position of need.
     
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  26. mlb1399

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    Or we take a trade offer to move back a little and someone will still be there. Just have to decide if it’s worth missing out on Sewell because he looks legit.
     
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  27. Pennington's Limp Arm

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  28. The G Man

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    ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports the Lions tried to trade up to the fourth pick in the NFL Draft in pursuit of LSU's Ja'Marr Chase.
    The Falcons' asking price for the fourth pick was too high, according to Fowler. This would confirm that the Bengals -- picking fifth -- will likely select Chase in Thursday's first round. Lions general manager Brad Holmes could still draft a high-end wide receiver prospect with the seventh pick -- perhaps Jaylen Waddle or DeVonta Smith. Any first round wideout who lands in Detroit would instantly become the team's No. 1 receiver and could fall into massive target volume with little competition for looks.

    Source: LionsWire.com
    Apr 28, 2021, 11:07 AM ET
     
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  29. Pennington's Limp Arm

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    Interesting.

    In a scenario where Chase is already gone. I wonder if Cincy has any interest in Pitts at 5... or if it become default lineman for them.

    Falcons could also stay and take Chase themselves.
     
  30. mlb1399

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    Also tells us how much they value Chase over Smith and Waddle who’d likely be there at 7 if they’re willing to pay to move up
     
  31. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    More reason to like Smith and Waddle over Chase.
    ADOOD

    Always do opposite of Detroit
     
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  32. daphins

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    Lol 100%. Felt the exact same when I read Detriot wanted Chase :)
     
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    This complicates things. If Pitts and Chase are gone I'm fine taking Sewell but only if we packaged to move up from #18 and snag Smith later. I've had a suspicion that Smith likely wouldn't make it past Detroit and this kind of solidifies it. If we want a top WR, we have to take them at #6, and the best two will be off the board.

    Not ideal. Sewel is the safest pick at #6 IMO but it doesn't solve our weapon problem. Unless we decided to trade for someone like Julio. Word is he's worth a 2nd round pick, and that would be a hell of an upgrade for Tua.
     
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  34. mlb1399

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    I’m with you. If we take Sewell at 6 and address edge at 18. We need to spend both of our picks on WR or WR/RB in the 2nd.

    I could get behind:
    6. Sewell
    18. Collins/Paye/Phillips
    36. Toney/Marshall
    50. R or E Moore/J Williams
    81. Humphrey
     
  35. The G Man

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    Not a rumor, but it most likely impacts how the top of the first round plays out IMO as I don't see Denver being as eager to part with significant draft capital to move up for a QB now.

    Broncos acquired QB Teddy Bridgewater from the Panthers in exchange for a 2021 sixth-round pick.
    The Broncos have been reported to be in the mix for a QB via the draft since the start of the offseason. Drew Lock has failed to do much in his 18 games as a starter. He averaged just 6.6 yards per attempt and led the league in interceptions last year. It's hard to see Bridgewater as the long-term answer though. After playing admiringly as Drew Brees backup in 2019, the Saints ultimately let him walk in free agency. Then the Panthers saw a year of him as a starter and chose to replace him with Sam Darnold. Bridgewater will have a great cast of weapons to work with in Denver but played alongside a talented receiving unit in Carolina last year. He threw 15 touchdowns to 11 interceptions and won just four games across 15 starts. Jerry Jeudy and Courtland Sutton will get a slight upgrade at QB in 2021 but the potential for a rookie turning the Denver offense into a powerhouse has all but vanished.

    Source: Tom Pelissero on Twitter
    Apr 28, 2021, 1:50 PM ET
     
  36. Fireland

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    They might be slightly less desperate but this is still there best chance to find a franchise QB. Are they going to hope to find one in the middle of the first round next year after they go 8-9?
     
  37. daphins

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    Well crap. I had figured they’d be a prime contender to trade up. Maybe still are. They need to fix their QB situation and have been pissing around it for years. Denver is getting to Chicago levels of incompetence in addressing their QB problem.
     
  38. AceVentura84

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    We shouldn't have traded out of three..at three we had our choice of anyone. Now the choice is at best Sewell. If the bet is Fuller stays healthy as the main receiver coming in that worries me. We really needed to add help out wide. Pitts and Chase were those choices and we have traded out of those positions
     
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  39. Pennington's Limp Arm

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    Looking more and more like a reality.

    Not Ideal.
     
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    I think we ****ed this up I really do. Eventually you need to stop stockpiling picks and take a talent when it's available. Tua needed the help and it would seem quite certain Pitts or Chase would have probably provided that.

    Now we are looking at a third lineman in three first round picks in 2 years. I don't admit to follow college ball that much but who may be available next year that can compare to Pitts or Chase that we have probably given up on this year?
     
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