Eh, 5-5, they are getting it done somehow.

 

Thank god for Mike Nolan and the defense being respectable this year with all the young faces back there.

Or we'd be 3-7 or 2-8.

 

You could argue we could be 7-3 if the defense would have made some of those 3rd down stops.

The Defense has been good, but not with the game on the line.

 

You know why Henning hasn't been fired, right? Because him, Parcells and Ross are golf buddies. This coaching staff literally makes me sick. (Nolan aside)

 

This year I can't blame the defense. Last year, yes. But I think they've done a solid job thus far with the exception of the Jets game. (New England was all Special Teams and offensive mistakes)

I think Henne getting benched pretty much signified that Henning was gonna be here the rest of the season. Something had to happen, and they made the wrong decision IMO. That's not even hindsight, just the facts.

 

Wait, who are we tied with?

 

But how much is that the offense not driving the ball, or the defense not converting turnover opportunities, they have dropped 10 interceptions this year.

 

I wouldnt say theyre getting it done. We should be a 7 win team and most of our 5 wins were way closer than they should have been.

 

Playing not to lose rather than playing to win? 5-5.

 

We put more points on the board vs the Steelers than any other team this season, and still lost, the first pats game featured a historic special teams meltdown and Henne threw a int in the EZ to end the Jets game.

It is not like we aren't close.

 

Never said we weren't close, just said that we're not really getting it done.

 

and if Sparano is going to be the coach that some think he could be, he needs to step up, show his skillset as a coach, show us that he has his own vision of our offense, and not stick with another man's vision who was picked for you.. Time for coach to be his own man now..

reasons why Henning should be let go..

Horrible usage of your top 2 RB'S..

Shelving and no evolution of the wildcat, even though you have the best player in the league at executing it....{stupid}

Lack of feel for calling specific plays, in certain down and distance scenario's...illogical sometimes.

The man is almost 70 years old.. no disrespect to Mr C, but come on...go hit the sticks.

He doesn't need the Job, and has shown thru some words that he's doing it out of favor.

 

If 8-8 is the goal then yeah, they're definitely getting it done.

 

When the offensive line got overhauled the "new and improved" version never played up to last years line and the rest is history.

 

Right, and I don't know why you're overhauling your offensive line before year three to begin with. You'd hope that you'd be done with at least most of it after a couple of seasons. Instead we were only set at the tackle positions with no depth.

 

I think you missed the Steelers vs Pats game. Brady & co. damn near scored 40. Just sayin.

 

Smiley & Grove both had fat contracts, and they both had chronic injuries as well. Thomas had every chance to keep his job, and he was beaten out by a guy who the coaches thought was better. And since DT can't play any other positions, he was let go in favor of backups who can play in multiple spots.

This team is building for the FUTURE, that being the case you don't keep aging vets with injury problems and bloated salaries on the roster. It may cost you short term, though in this case it hasn't b/c none of those three guys has done a damn thing this year. The cap space saved by the cuts will allow us to sign a an additional free agent or two. Cutting Gibril, Porter, Torbor, Ayodele and trading Ginn will help also.

 

5-5 wit two losses to the Steelers and Jets by 8 pts? And even then Henne threw a Int in the EZ to end the Jet and we were screwed in the steelers game.

 

More than being outright horrible, I despise mediocrity. And other than that 1-15 year, that's what we've been mired in for the last 10 years.

Even when we had that "awesome" yet mentally-weak Defense in the early part of the decade, we were largely mediocre or just above it.

Even during the post-achilles Marino years, we were HUGELY mediocre, held just above water by Marino's grit and determination, and Shula's stewardship.

I'm ****ing sick to death of it.

I'd much rather SUCK for a couple years and rebuild the rest of the team around the few pieces worth keeping, than continue to plod along, picking 20th or so in the draft and signing guys like Justin Smiley and Jake Grove.

 

To all the haters who say the Phins are mediocre: They just excelled at being the worst.

 

''awesome but mentally weak''....LOL...ur so right Nob..I never bought that hype.

 

Here are interesting numbers (from miamidolphins.com)...

The Phins have outscored opponents in the first half 92-77...
They have been outscored in the 2nd half 77-115... Now take off the NE game ST fiasco and it looks like 77-94...

They have more 1st downs then opponents, and they are converting more 3rd downs that opponents (43%-39%)...

Right now by looking at these numbers, it points to how prepared are they when they come out to play inthe 2nd half... adjustments, adjustments???

thought a few more picks would help it balance out some, but that is why CB's are not WR's....

 

Other thing is 'Nard, Henne's int's have tended to come in the second half this season.

This is a part of the problem the Offense has limited possessions, the Defense bends but doesn't break in the red zone, so the offense receives the ball back with a depleted clock in situations where it has to throw the ball to play catch up so when Henne throws a int it compounds the problem.

As you point out, when the Defense doesn't take advantage of their opportunities to create turnovers, it makes it doubly bad.

Notice in the Titans game, the two worked together, Defense creates turnovers, Offense scores points off of them.

 

If Miami gets shutout again or scores minimal points, Henning better be f***ing fired.

 

Padre, maybe its me but these numbers might not support your theory on the Offense having limited possessions, at least in the 1st half...

Going back to the Offense of 2008, our 11-5 Season, where TOP and mistake free football was what the Offense was great at...

In the 1st 10 games (under Penny), this Offense had an average of 4.8 Possessions (Drives) in the 1st half, and ran off an average of 24.9 plays...

In the 1st 9 games this year (mostly under Henne), this current Offense had an average of 4.6 Possessions (Drives) in the 1st half, and ran off an average of 31 plays...

Also in 2008 the O averaged 37% in TDC... compared to 43% now...

So looking at these numbers, other things come to mind...

Now on the later highlighted part... I think this is what seperates elite teams from good and or average teams...

 

dolphin reality: we're running a one legged race. we'll be lucky to cross the finish line

 

disagree vehemently about the offensive line. Sparano screwed up big time. His insistence on Henne @ QB from the very beginning until now & the destruction of a very capable offensive line has devastated the season. He is a parcellian experiment @ coaching gone bad

 

Ehh, Im not Surprised We Havent Put Up Big Scoring Numbers With Mr. Too Dan Conservative. Wasnt The Most Points We Put up in Like 3 Seasons Against The Saints or Last Year? Its A Great Thing We Have A Good Defense because then our Record would probably be really bad

 

Every time I read or say the name Henning, I get douche chills.

 

:sidelol:
Yeah..... b/c Penny and Thiggy were CLEARLY the answer. :shifty:

You're right-- this had nothing to do with:
1. Special Teams
2. Henning
3. Ultra conservatism and allowing teams to dictate the game to us rather than doing the dictating
4. Excessive team youth playing like inconsistent youth
5. Not creating enough turnovers
6. Lack of playmakers and speed on offense

Past SB teams have won with less capable QBs and/or poorer Olines. Get real will you.

 

yeah, a dirt nap...... or a coma induced one.

 

Not that it matters much but when I sort points scored I get "tied for 29th".

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...sonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

 

I would love to agree with your statistics but three games ago Chad Henne was benched for throwing multiple interceptions in the second half of every one of our losses. Now I'm not attempting to condemn Henne but your statistic is not a condemnation of a failure to adjust. Your statistic is evidence of the fact that if this team gets behind - they are going to lose.

 

Dan "field goals are ok" Henning