He actually had good stats in his second season and we went 9-8. That record is largely thanks to going 6-1 in the last seven games (and he should get credit for winning the Baltimore game, when he came off the bench to display some of the strong play we're seeing right now). Anybody who complains about his play in the second season is looking for things to mope about.
I said rookie season what he did in his 2nd season with trash weapons all over was good We all can now see how Tua elevated Gesicki Guy can’t even score a td in New England He made Parker close to a thousand yard receiver that ain’t happening anywhere else Myles gaskin was his running back
Yeah, I was more referring to his statement that Tua wasn't very good and often injured in his first three seasons. Seems like he either wasn't paying close attention or *gasp* has an agenda.
Think about that Tua in his first two years had Devante Parker Mike Gesicki and Myles gaskin Lynn Bowden, Albert Wilson as his top targets
Could it be any more ironic that the same people who refused to take his supporting cast into consideration during his first two years are the same people who want to give all credit to his supporting cast during his second two years?
To be fair, he also had Waddle in year #2. Thanks to Studesville/Godsey's incredibly creative plays, he averaged less than 10 yards per catch. Contrast that with a year later, when Waddle nearly doubled his YPC, but Tua almost averaged 10 yards per attempt.
To be fair, he also had Waddle in year #2. But the genius that was the Godsey/Studesville pairing managed to scheme Waddle to less than 10 yards per catch. A year later, not only would he nearly double his YPC, but Tua was almost average 10 yards per attempt. Crazy.
Ok year two he had one legitimate rookie weapon the d coordinators had to account for The context for Tuas first two years was as hard as any
Believe me, I was saying that back then. I think that Tua's tepid YPA in year #2 was a result of him having to make quick decisions to get rid of the ball (thanks to his paper-thin OL). McDaniel clearly noticed how quickly he was making his reads and devised his offense to take advantage of it. Talk about serendipity. Three years ago the outlook for this franchise was gloomy and it looked like the rebuild might have failed when Flores was termed and now, the outlook is bright.
That’s what we’re saying, his first two years it was at the cost of a complete rebuild, almost expansion like
Well so much for my post.Same old ****. Now it will be injuries that will kill our season. Always something
Tua didn't need salvaging, what we see now is what he has always been. It's what people like Trent Dilfer have been saying all along. What Tua needed was saving from being ruined by Flores.
And a lot of those people who refused to take Tua's situation and supporting cast into account are now trying to defend Herbert by saying his supporting cast sucks.
He needed salvaging in that he needed the right system and supporting cast. He is system QB who was never going to be successful on the type of team Flores had in mind. And he is not "who he always was" he has worked to improve a lot both physical and mentally.
No one was ever going to work in that offence with a historically bad OL and throwing to guys that got zero separation and zero YAC. The fact that Tua posted a 90 passer rating in that offence actually made me believe he was the guy. If Flores was wanting to replicate the New England offence of having a QB who could read the defence quickly and get the ball out quickly and accurately to the WR then he had the best QB in the league to run that type of offence. The truth is we don't really know what kind of offence Flores wanted as there was never any talent on that side of the ball apart from Tua.
That's like saying Steve Young needed salvaging. No, Tua didn't need salvaging. He was the right pick because in the right system he can perform better than Herbert. No offense around Herbert has demonstrated it can do as well as Tua in the right system. Remember, you are picking players on a team, which means you are intending on building a supporting cast and system.
Truth. And, what Flores ran the last year he was here was RPO heavy with no running game, or O linemen that fit the type of running game they ran. It was crazy. Not to mention dual O coordinators with a possible third play caller, and a rookie Waddle and Mike Gesicki as the only real weapons. That Tua looked even looked average was a success.
Tua was sabotaged, anyone being professionally sabotaged needs saving.. the fact that he's this good is only a testament to his greatness, anyone suggesting different is a tua troll
