Timmons AWOL - Suspended Indefinitely- Update: Forgiveness Possible

Miami needs him more than he needs Miami? Really? Who's paying his salary? What other team has 6 million dollars to give this little beatch his money?

If he doesn't want to play, thats fine, retire. But to quit like a little beeatch is not fine. His punishment needs to be suspended without pay. This is bigger than Timmons. Gase has to get control of this team and let everyone know if you do something like this, there are going to be severe consequences. Would Belichick tolerate it? Neither should we.

Here's the best breakdown I've found on the situation so far, with just the limited information there is:

From Steelers Depot
"After the Miami game was over, Dolphins head coach Adam Gase indicated he wasn’t ready to talk about the situation with Timmons.

“I’m not saying anything right now,” Gase said during his post-game press conference, according to Pro Football Talk. “I need to figure some things out first before I talk about this.”

Timmons failing to play Sunday put an end to his streak of 101 consecutive starts. The Steelers former first-round draft pick had last missed a game in 2009.

After the Steelers game against the Minnesota Vikings was over, a few defensive players were asked about their former teammate and specifically if they had heard about what happened earlier in the day with Timmons. None of them appeared to know what exactly happened, according to a few media reports.

“I’m about to call him tonight, though, and see what’s up with him,” Steelers linebacker Vince Williams said, according to Jacob Klinger of pennlive.com.

Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald reported earlier Sunday that Timmons had not been arrested and did not run afoul of the law.

It certainly will be interesting to see what ultimately happens with this situation with Timmons as it was certainly out of character for him to leave the team the way he did. The veteran linebacker signed a two year, $12 million contract with the Dolphins this past March after failing to come to an agreement with the Steelers.

Timmons’ agent, Drew Rosenhaus, was a guest Sunday night on WSVN’s 7Sports Xtra and he was asked by host Steve Shapiro if he could shed some light on what’s going on with his client right now.

“Unfortunately, Steve, not a lot,” Rosenhaus said. “It’s a private matter. I’d love to be able to shed some light on it, but I can’t.”

Rosenhaus was then asked if he’s concerned about the situation with Timmons.

“It’s of a personal matter nature of Lawrence and when he gets back to Miami and we get together and converse with the Dolphins, then obviously there will be a joint statement on it,” Rosenhaus said.

Rosenhaus was then asked if he thinks Timmons will play next week.

“I dont know,” he relied."

Timmons is pathetic. That was a total unprofessional move from a player one would expect unparalleled professionalism. I have no use for him at all--I hope Gase doesn't either.

Imagine if we playing a big game late in the year. Can ANYONE trust that he is going to show up? If there is ANY doubt about him, he should be 100% on the shelf.

It doesn't really matter how "good" he is...if you can't trust that he will show up, he's no good at all. He certainly wasn't in LA yesterday, was he?

"Redwine4all wrote:

Timmons is pathetic. That was a total unprofessional move from a player one would expect unparalleled professionalism. I have no use for him at all--I hope Gase doesn't either.

Imagine if we playing a big game late in the year. Can ANYONE trust that he is going to show up? If there is ANY doubt about him, he should be 100% on the shelf.

It doesn't really matter how "good" he is...if you can't trust that he will show up, he's no good at all. He certainly wasn't in LA yesterday, was he?

go away dude. people have lives too. NFL is just entertainment for us. these guys are literally sacrificing 40 years of their health just so you can be entertained, and you're pissed off. THIS IS ENTERTAINMENT..... pls stop commenting on this, you sound a lot like roger g, not caring about people's lives or health, you just want the entertainment and money.

If it was a mental breakdown you really can't blame Timmons. I'm as pissed as everyone else about him but with CTE becoming more and more prevalent (or at least recognized) you can't fully demonize the man until the facts come out. Maybe he is ill and needs help.

Again, I'm beyond agitated but still.

"muskrat21 wrote:

go away dude. people have lives too. NFL is just entertainment for us. these guys are literally sacrificing 40 years of their health just so you can be entertained, and you're pissed off. THIS IS ENTERTAINMENT..... pls stop commenting on this, you sound a lot like roger g, not caring about people's lives or health, you just want the entertainment and money.

ROFL....i want money? Surely you jest. I don't get paid a cent.

I understand everyone has a life. I also understand when you CHOOSE to play a game for a living, and make millions of dollars entertaining "US" (you seem to like it, too), then you are fair game for criticism.

I don't really care what happened to timmons. I don't care if its HIS LIFE or he was just pissed. I don't care if he hates Miami or if its something really serious. There is a PROCESS that everyone needs to follow. He decided that doesn't apply to him. So, any and all criticism is fair, and its independent of the facts in the case. You don't just leave. If there is a death, you tell someone and leave. If you want to quit, you tell someone and leave.

I am showing that POS Timmons the same amount of respect he showed his employers and teammates. To hell with Timmons.

"Redwine4all wrote:

ROFL....i want money? Surely you jest. I don't get paid a cent.

I understand everyone has a life. I also understand when you CHOOSE to play a game for a living, and make millions of dollars entertaining "US" (you seem to like it, too), then you are fair game for criticism.

I don't really care what happened to timmons. I don't care if its HIS LIFE or he was just pissed. I don't care if he hates Miami or if its something really serious. There is a PROCESS that everyone needs to follow. He decided that doesn't apply to him. So, any and all criticism is fair, and its independent of the facts in the case. You don't just leave. If there is a death, you tell someone and leave. If you want to quit, you tell someone and leave.

I am showing that POS Timmons the same amount of respect he showed his employers and teammates. To hell with Timmons.

I tend to agree with you but if we was mentally incapacitated or delusional there isn't much he could have done.

"Bumrush wrote:

I tend to agree with you but if we was mentally incapacitated or delusional there isn't much he could have done.

Agree. And if he is mentally incapacitated or delusional, we don't need him around. If he's not, and he's just irresponsible, we don't need him around.

"Redwine4all wrote:

Agree. And if he is mentally incapacitated or delusional, we don't need him around. If he's not, and he's just irresponsible, we don't need him around.

"Redwine4all wrote:

Agree. And if he is mentally incapacitated or delusional, we don't need him around. If he's not, and he's just irresponsible, we don't need him around.

Or he had one lapse in judgement in his entire career. And unlike others, it didn't involve anything illegal (that we know of).

This loyalty to the team bullcrap is silly considering the teams rarely have loyalty to the players.

If he just simply quit on the team and is looking to get signed somewhere else, the NFL needs to place a large fine on his ass. Then every player would start doing the same to get out of their situation.

"And then there was that embarrassing issue with linebacker Lawrence Timmons leaving the team Saturday.

Timmons, apparently dealing with a personal situation that made him so unhappy he headed to the airport on his own to go home, put the good of the team at risk on Sunday. At a time when the Dolphins are talking about being unified and a family and a brotherhood, Timmons simply became a solo act.

And so his Dolphins career is at risk now.

“I’m still kind of, I’ll be ready to talk about that, probably tomorrow,” Gase said. “I’m not saying anything right now. I need to figure some things out first before I talk about this.”

Part of figuring out if Timmons is going to salvage his career with the team or not involves Gase speaking with Timmons. That had not happened as of Sunday evening when this game ended.

So Timmons needs to have a compelling and logical explanation for Gase to make going AWOL an excusable offense. That’s a tough ask.

But if Timmons doesn’t convince Gase what he did somehow made sense, he might not be around this team for next week’s game or future games, or perhaps ever again.

That’s how serious this is.

It’s possible this is more serious for the Dolphins than it might be for other teams because this team, for whatever amount of talent they have relative to their opponents, believe they win because of their heart and unity and camaraderie.

Don’t believe it?

The evening before every game the Dolphins always have someone talk to the team. On Saturday it was defensive end Cameron Wake giving the talk. And Wake talked about using the people of Florida as a template for how his teammates should think.

He was back in Florida when Hurricane Irma hit and saw survivors in the aftermath speak of family and hope and the importance of having each other. And Wake said the Dolphins should share that approach.

“Cam talked about it with the guys because he was back there,” Gase said. “And hearing some of the things he saw and some of the interviews he saw about our area, just the positive attitude that people in that area have, happy to be safe and have their families with them, not being worried so much about material things ...

“I think that was a great thing for him to talk about last night, that there’s more than the material type things. It’s about your family, it’s about us sticking together and going out and playing hard and trying to win for each other and South Florida fans.”"

"Fin D wrote:

Or he had one lapse in judgement in his entire career. And unlike others, it didn't involve anything illegal (that we know of).

This loyalty to the team bullcrap is silly considering the teams rarely have loyalty to the players.

True dat. But if a team cuts a player, they must inform him...they cannot take him on the plane, bring him to the hotel, and then say, "oh, btw, you aren't on our team."

There is a protocol that the team must follow. Same for players. I don't care what or why he did. I do care very much about how he did it. And THAT was wrong, without question.

"Galant wrote:

"And then there was that embarrassing issue with linebacker Lawrence Timmons leaving the team Saturday.

Timmons, apparently dealing with a personal situation that made him so unhappy he headed to the airport on his own to go home, put the good of the team at risk on Sunday. At a time when the Dolphins are talking about being unified and a family and a brotherhood, Timmons simply became a solo act.

And so his Dolphins career is at risk now.

“I’m still kind of, I’ll be ready to talk about that, probably tomorrow,” Gase said. “I’m not saying anything right now. I need to figure some things out first before I talk about this.”

Part of figuring out if Timmons is going to salvage his career with the team or not involves Gase speaking with Timmons. That had not happened as of Sunday evening when this game ended.

So Timmons needs to have a compelling and logical explanation for Gase to make going AWOL an excusable offense. That’s a tough ask.

But if Timmons doesn’t convince Gase what he did somehow made sense, he might not be around this team for next week’s game or future games, or perhaps ever again.

That’s how serious this is.

It’s possible this is more serious for the Dolphins than it might be for other teams because this team, for whatever amount of talent they have relative to their opponents, believe they win because of their heart and unity and camaraderie.

Don’t believe it?

The evening before every game the Dolphins always have someone talk to the team. On Saturday it was defensive end Cameron Wake giving the talk. And Wake talked about using the people of Florida as a template for how his teammates should think.

He was back in Florida when Hurricane Irma hit and saw survivors in the aftermath speak of family and hope and the importance of having each other. And Wake said the Dolphins should share that approach.

“Cam talked about it with the guys because he was back there,” Gase said. “And hearing some of the things he saw and some of the interviews he saw about our area, just the positive attitude that people in that area have, happy to be safe and have their families with them, not being worried so much about material things ...

“I think that was a great thing for him to talk about last night, that there’s more than the material type things. It’s about your family, it’s about us sticking together and going out and playing hard and trying to win for each other and South Florida fans.”"

My column. Winning amid adversity is the new thing that’s so Dolphinhttps://t.co/s2aVAfVIhU

— Armando Salguero (@ArmandoSalguero) September 18, 2017

This!

"Redwine4all wrote:

Timmons is pathetic. That was a total unprofessional move from a player one would expect unparalleled professionalism. I have no use for him at all--I hope Gase doesn't either.

Imagine if we playing a big game late in the year. Can ANYONE trust that he is going to show up? If there is ANY doubt about him, he should be 100% on the shelf.

It doesn't really matter how "good" he is...if you can't trust that he will show up, he's no good at all. He certainly wasn't in LA yesterday, was he?

We expect unparalleled professionalism, because he has shown that through out his career. If this was a problem player, I would completely understand your reaction. When its not a problem player, I'm inclined to hear what his side is. That isn't different then it would be in the real world. If an employee has been a model employee for 11 years, and then 1 day doesn't show up, my first instinct would not be to fire him. First thought would be is he ok? Second would be is this a rare case that can be overlooked? Third does this one issue out weight the previous 11 years of excellent service, or is this an issue that puts the company/department at risk? Any manager who doesn't at least somewhat understand that approach is a manager I personally wouldn't want to work for.

Now that being said, Timmons doesn't yet have a long history with us. This is essentially a new job for him, and yes I would expect much better from him. However, since the NFL is so public we have seen his dedication to the sport and know that this is not a disturbing trend that continues to repeat.

If his reason falls in the somewhat forgivable category then he is fined, he looses playing time. He essentially has to work his way out of the coaches dog house.

If not then he is let go, and Dolphins look into a breach of contract to save some of the money we spent on him.

"Redwine4all wrote:

True dat. But if a team cuts a player, they must inform him...they cannot take him on the plane, bring him to the hotel, and then say, "oh, btw, you aren't on our team."

There is a protocol that the team must follow. Same for players. I don't care what or why he did. I do care very much about how he did it. And THAT was wrong, without question.

Again, it was "wrong", but maybe not "wrong" on the level you're selling it as...is the point.

"Galant wrote:

"And then there was that embarrassing issue with linebacker Lawrence Timmons leaving the team Saturday.

Timmons, apparently dealing with a personal situation that made him so unhappy he headed to the airport on his own to go home, put the good of the team at risk on Sunday. At a time when the Dolphins are talking about being unified and a family and a brotherhood, Timmons simply became a solo act.

And so his Dolphins career is at risk now.

“I’m still kind of, I’ll be ready to talk about that, probably tomorrow,” Gase said. “I’m not saying anything right now. I need to figure some things out first before I talk about this.”

Part of figuring out if Timmons is going to salvage his career with the team or not involves Gase speaking with Timmons. That had not happened as of Sunday evening when this game ended.

So Timmons needs to have a compelling and logical explanation for Gase to make going AWOL an excusable offense. That’s a tough ask.

But if Timmons doesn’t convince Gase what he did somehow made sense, he might not be around this team for next week’s game or future games, or perhaps ever again.

That’s how serious this is.

It’s possible this is more serious for the Dolphins than it might be for other teams because this team, for whatever amount of talent they have relative to their opponents, believe they win because of their heart and unity and camaraderie.

Don’t believe it?

The evening before every game the Dolphins always have someone talk to the team. On Saturday it was defensive end Cameron Wake giving the talk. And Wake talked about using the people of Florida as a template for how his teammates should think.

He was back in Florida when Hurricane Irma hit and saw survivors in the aftermath speak of family and hope and the importance of having each other. And Wake said the Dolphins should share that approach.

“Cam talked about it with the guys because he was back there,” Gase said. “And hearing some of the things he saw and some of the interviews he saw about our area, just the positive attitude that people in that area have, happy to be safe and have their families with them, not being worried so much about material things ...

“I think that was a great thing for him to talk about last night, that there’s more than the material type things. It’s about your family, it’s about us sticking together and going out and playing hard and trying to win for each other and South Florida fans.”"

My column. Winning amid adversity is the new thing that’s so Dolphinhttps://t.co/s2aVAfVIhU

— Armando Salguero (@ArmandoSalguero) September 18, 2017

Families forgive.

"Fin D wrote:

Families forgive.

Sure. Which is different than him being on the roster.

"Redwine4all wrote:

Sure. Which is different than him being on the roster.

No it isn't.

If a parent misses one kid performance they aren't kicked off of the family.

"Fin D wrote:

Families forgive.

Sure. Which is different than him being on the roster.

"Redwine4all wrote:

Sure. Which is different than him being on the roster.

Sigh. No it isn't.

The whole thing I quoted was the TEAM IS A FAMILY. If that is the case, then you don't cut him, you forgive and let him earn the respect back.

You don't get to approve of the team as a family then disregard that analogy when it leads to something you don't agree with.

Maybe he wants to have a sex change (Chelsea Manning) or just wanted to "get away" (Bowe Bergdahl). You just need the right leader to manage the situation and they'll be right as rain. Give up your machismo "hard lovin'" and go hug someone, drink some wine and wait 'till we hear from coach, neanderthal.

Look. We just don't know what happened at this point. Until we, and more importantly the team, get facts about it there is nothing but useless conjecture and angst. He may very well have an incredibly good reason for what he did, there is nothing in his past that would point to this kind of thing so whatever the situation you have to think that it is something pretty serious or completely out of the norm.

The only thing I can fault him with at this point with what we know is that he left without a word and that's pretty damn serious in itself.

"The players seem just as confused about the situation as the fans. Miami cornerback Byron Maxwell told the Palm Beach Post’s Jason Lieser after the game, “It was out of the blue. It’s just one of those things. You worry about him, but at the end of the day, you’ve got a job to do. I’ve got an obligation to this team I’ve gotta fulfill, so I can’t be worried about who’s not here. I’m happy if he’s alive, basically. The worst was going through my mind. I think he’s OK. I don’t know what happened.”

Defensive end Andre Branch also weighed in, telling Lieser, “I don’t know all the info, so I can’t speak on it. I hoped everything was good, at the end of the day. I hoped he was good and his heath and everything was fine.”

Offensive lineman Jermon Bushrod spoke to the Miami Herald’s Adam Beasley about the situation as well, saying, “I really don't know much about the situation. I don't know what happened or why. It got to the point where I just hope he's OK. Of course we want the competitor out there. He left it out there all week in practice. He had a good week of practice. When this happened, I just hope he's OK. You want him to play. He's a leader. He's a hell of player.”"

Hmm... those quotes sure make it sound like something odd, yet concerning happened to Timmons. It's got to be something big for players to say things like "happy if he's alive", "hope his health is ok", etc, etc. It's pretty odd for a player with 11 seasons and 101 straight starts to up and disappear like that. Sounds like there was some concern for his well being mentally and physically. Starting to wonder if we'll ever get all the details on this one.