Not unsurprising, it was always likely that he wanted to stay with the Eagles. If you don't enter, you can't win though, so at least we tried to lure him.

3...2...1 though on some of the media using it to say no-one wants to come to the Dolphins.

 

:shifty:

 

Commence the ledge jumping and wrist slicing in 3...2...1....

 

:omg:

 

Few people thought he'd consider leaving Philly anyway. So this isn't some big surprise.

 

Tad bit too much hype around this guy for my liking as it was.

 

Didn't have high hopes for Gamble coming anyway. Xanders should be the top priority.

 

So then it's surprising?

In all seriousness Miami has three strikes working against them with respect to Tom Gamble and I was actually mildly surprised that it got to the level of a public overture and his name getting out to the press and being confirmed.

The three strikes are:

1. He moved to Philadelphia to be close to his sick father who is now in hospice care which means he doesn't have much time left. If I'm in his shoes and I've got a great job with the Eagles who are an up-and-coming team, and I'm there specifically because the dynamo head coach wanted me there, I know the NFL will be there for me in a year or two. My dying parent won't be. Priorities.

2. As soon as Armando Salguero pointed out the close relationship between Norman Braman and both Harry and Tom Gamble, that sealed it for me. There was NO WAY this would happen. Tom Gamble is not going to be the right hand man for a close family friend's mortal enemy.

3. Finally, yes absolutely Miami's organizational reputation applies to this situation as it does to all situations. The offensive coordinator search has turned into a Farrelly brothers movie in large part because of this factor. It's not something that can't be overcome but you're kidding yourself if you don't think it's a factor.

 

I wonder though....

How much hiring a top notch GM would make the OC job more attractive.

Wouldnt an offensive coordinator feel more comfortable if we had a top notch personel person in place?

 

WARNING!!!!

IRELAND to the Bucs rumor ahead

 

I don't believe this part. The other two yes. Not this. There is 32 jobs. As highly sought as a qb position then. You won't turn down a chance.solely cos you perceive the situation to be volatile. If you believed in yourself you'd take it and make it better.

 

That would be fantastic actually.

 

Noooooooooooooo

 

At this point, I think I'd reset my preference for GM Candidates as:

1) Xanders
2) Licht
3) Triumvirate of Boomer, CK and Conuficus
4) Dawson
5) Farmer
6) Gaine

 

+1

 

Surprise surprise, Gamble not interested because of the structure of the franchise...smh.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...agles-vice-president-of-player-personnel.html

 

That is not true. You'll know its not true because Gamble won't be leaving Philly.

 

We hired Lazor from Philly, so there's still a chance! All Ross has to do is offer Gamble more power and he might take the job.

 

What part of he doesn't want to leave Philly aren't you getting?

 

If this puzzles Gamble (and I really doubt it did) then he isn't ready to be a GM as most HC's hire their staff.

 

Exactly... the GM's that hire head coaches interview them and hear the list of names they'd target for their staff should they get the job...if they don't like the names, that could affect the guy's chances at getting the job.

there's nothing wrong with a GM having a voice in who is on the staff, obviously he wants the guy that's going to put the players he acquires in the best position to succeed on the field. most HC's do choose who makes up their staff, but if you're a coveted executive and an owner wants you to run his team but the downside is you'll be stuck with an unproven HC that you have no history with, you'd probably want your opinion heard on who should be calling the plays too.

 

You should go ahead and add "IMO" to the end of that. Gamble's philosophy does not fit w/ Ross's so they shake hands and move on. Happens all the time.

 

he'll leave, he just has to be persuaded to leave, and to do that we have to make certain concessions. If you want the top dog out there, you have to make your opening as appealing to him as possible. We are not doing everything we can to entice him to take the job

 

Now lets kidnap his dad! lol

 

well this sucks. :(
the dolphins have interviewed a lot of good candidates so hopefully we land one of them.

 

Get Farmer. That should be plan B if we can't get Gamble. Farmer or Licht i've heard good things about. It really is a crapshoot now. Lets just pray he's better than Ireland whoever we hire.

 

It's really weird that Tampa Bay has the exact same structure as us.

 

Lmao! What philosophy is that, winning? This is the guy who Ross wants, the problem is Ross thinks that just because Carl Peterson and Gamble go way back, Ross can force a coach and a staff on the guy, force a capologist on him, even force an assistant GM on him and he'll still take the job. Our owner is incredibly naive.

 

Good grief. Many Dolphin fans thought the search for the OC job drug out way too long as it was. Many would be calling Ross all kinds of names if he said he was waiting ot hire an CO after he hired a GM.

Hire an OC immediately - Ross is an idiot and incompetent. Knee jerk reaction.
Hire an OC after completing several interviews - The organization is stupid and dysfunctional. They were turned down by all the candidates that they didn't hire because it organization is the laughing stock of the NFL.
Hire an OC after you hire your GM. Ross is an idiot and incompetent. All the good OCs were already hired. How can he wait so long? He is indecisive.

Sometimes I get the feeling that some people are so bitter and angry that they will take anything that happens and turn it into a negative.

 

Btw, Mike Sherman really hired Zac Taylor and Jim Turner.

 

I agree which is why I said I doubt he was puzzled. I think its just another poor job on Mando's part. He is basing the whole article on "sources familiar with Gamble's way of thinking" which translate to someone who hasn't actually spoken with Gamble but is speculating on why he might have withdrawn. Mando then dumps his own speculation on top to paint the Phins in a poor light.

 

Sometimes?

 

^ Cue this type of reaction to a stimulus that barely exists in 3...2...1....

 

I agree with you in theory, but didn't we already do that with Jimmy, Saban and Parcells. And how did it work out?

Top dog doesn't necessarily mean the best. There is no foolproof way of picking a general manager, in any sport. It's a high variance proposition.

 

Who knows for sure why Gamble did or did not choose the Miami Dolphins. I'm sure the father issue definitely played. Miami's organizational structure? Who knows? If the "sources" are to be believed, it was at least some concern.

I'm not going to ledge jump or slice wrists. I'm just taking note that once again Stephen Ross was unable to get his top candidate (reportedly). That's disappointing no matter how you look at it.

But the OC hire was a good get, so it's not all losses for Ross and company.

 

this is so absurd.