Top Picks for the Dolphins - by round

Is this who you think the Dolphins target in those rounds?

I don't see English going in the fourth round nor do I see Barden going in the fifth. Barden is a 3-4th right now while English is a second rounder IMO. I don't think Everette Brown is a first rounder.

 

I want no part of Nick Harris. The guy seems like Roy Williams the sequel. Great hitter, lousy in coverage. Harris is the only one Im against as of right now. The rest are a decent projection as any right now being that its only november. A lot of those guys I think are going to be moving up and down that list namely Larry English who according to nfldraftscout.com which I like to use a lot has him at 4, when its all said and I have to agree with Alen1 that he is going to end up in the high/mid 2nd round range.

 

I can understand Selvie, Hardy, Sintim and Jackson over English. Regarding Orakpo over English, I'm not sure. I get annoyed by Orakpo when he doesn't hustle. He has a good bulrush though. I still can't get past the lack of hustle though, where as a guy like English has a great motor. I can't comment on Barwin, Brown, Graham, Shaughnessy, and Egboh to be honest as I haven't seen them play. I saw a glimpse of Shaughnessy but had to go.

 

Dude , I hope yoU don't feel like I'm picking on you, but I think, Nee I KNOW, Miami will cast it's net wider. Of the non first rounders, English and Barnes will go higher than 4th. Remember Barnes had first round aspirations before the shoulder injury. I certainly don't envisage any scenario where Sergio Kindle is on our draft board. And Sean Smith might put his nose into R1.

As for the first round, Darius Butler may turn into a zone corner, whilst I don't see them taking a WR, Maclin or otherwise that high. I think Marks is a nailed on definite and I would stick in that LB/conversion end, end, NT region, with the odd pure LB like Curry and Clint Sintim. I wouldn't rule corners out, but I think you're looking at the defensive front 7 for round 1 answers.

 

Orakpo is all bullrush. That's his game and that's about all he has. He would carry the vastly overrated tag for me.

 

I'm not so sure about the front 7 thesis. Granted, question marks abound. Soliai- who knows, Fergusun getting older, Starks is good, but maybe more DE than NT.

But on the flip side you have Langford, Merling, Torbor, Ayodele, Crowder, Porter. I know how you feel about the Roth/Moses/Washington mess. Rod Wright in reserve. We still have Dotson, and for some reason I don't want to give up on PS squad member Ninkovich. We have Holliday, too, but age and salary issues there.

But safety- R Hill ok, coming off of a popped Achilles, Y Bell is always an injury concern, and the depth is questionable at best- on top of that J Allen is back at CB. Every time I look at the board I come back to one name- William Moore.

Normally I'd be intrigued by a WR, but with Pennnington's limitations, despite his playing well- why waste a high pick. That's assuming he has a 2-3 year run in him- big assumption. Just go with what they have now. Can't go deep much anyway. Better off with Ginn speed, crafty Camarillo and Bess underneath, and spend the high pick elsewhere.

I'll have two names on my mind for some time- Moore and Alex Mack. Your redundancy point is well taken, but if a player is special and available, take him. I like what you've described of this English DE/OLB, looking forward to seeing him play if possible.

 

Front 7 is where the money is made, so to speak. Look at Pitt and that group of linebackers. That didn't just happen by accident. Same with the Giants and that group on the DL, even without Osi and Strahan. It's what Ireland and Parcells know.

As for the names you mention; Merling is likely to get looked at as a linebacker, Torbor is back-up, Ayodele is OK, but nothing special. And if Moses/Washington/Wright and Ninkovic were anything to write home about they'd be playing.

William Moore is a name, but you can bet that they love the kid at Alabama and last time Bill drafted a safety high, he got burned. And I don't see them drafting Alex Mack if they could get a Larry English or a Clint Sintim, etc.

 

There are a few guys I have issues with: Cody Brown, Duke Robinson, the fact that Clint Sintim and Larry English aren't on the list in the first round (English could stand in the 2nd and I's have no issue) Tyronne McKenzie, B.J. Raji, the fact that Evander Hood isn't in there in the first round either, or DeMarcus Granger if you have Marks.

Alex Boone will probably be a right tackle we'd look at, and Garret Reynolds for that matter. And Tyson Jackson from LSU should be up there for a look at DE.

 

All points well made. I'll have to see English play. But I still think that we have better depth in the front 7 than the secondary- not that depth should be the overriding factor. We were kind of lucky to win the Seattle game- not that there weren't great plays from our secondary, esp Will Allen. And I continue to hold out hope for J Allen. But if the Seattle WRs didn't drop those passes (I'm thinking Deion Branch)... R Hill seemed to be often a step late.

Last year when the safeties went down and Cameron Worrell was starting- we had no hope. I remember watching the Pats game in NYC, couldn't believe it. It not Moore in the 1st, then the Alabama guy in the 2nd would be fine with me.

p.s. What do you think the chances are of moving out Beck for a decent pick or maybe a Miles Austin? I still think that Beck can be good if he regains his confidence and finds himself in the right situation- the logical destination to me is Dallas. Maybe Austin or Crayton with Roy Williams in town. Or maybe Bobby Carpenter, or that LB they took recently I think 2nd rd. from Tennessee?

 

Kevin Burnett is the LB that you mentioned and he's a free agent anyway. I certainly think Dallas could be a team that has an interest in Beck, but not at a high price. Miles Austin is a RFA as well and they just signed Crayton to a big contract so he's going nowhere, especially as TO is 36. I can't see anyone giving much more than a 6th or 7th for Beck I really can't.

I certainly think the secondary needs an infusion of youth, but I would imagine that if for example Dallas were to part ways with Anthony Henry, he'd be exactly the sort of player Ireland would like, especially as he could transition across to FS. Jim Leonhard is a FA that I'm sure they'll look at, as is OJ Atogwe. That aforementioned youth movement that will come from the draft but colour me surprised if it comes in round 1.

 

As a LDE who they MIGHT be looking at as a Jay Ratliff conversion inside, Jackso, as we think we know, is prime Ireland beef.

 

I just want derrick Williams. Is that too much to ask out of a 2nd rounder?

 

1. English may not be as highly rated across the board, but you canbet your bottom dollar that he's highly rated on our board, Pitt's board, New Englands board, etc.

2. The injuries to Bush, etc., were more serious than the injury to Barnes. He should be able to work out in Indy, although obviously lifting might be an issue.

3. As for Kindle, I just don't see a 6-4, 228lb, one dimensional OLB as being our bag.

4. Has Smith actually run a forty time measured by NFL personnel? Until he does, I'm not believing ANYTHING. I remember when they said Fred Taylor would never go in round one as he runs 'a 4.5' and when he ripped a 4.38 and went 9th, it shut quite a few people up. As for playing in the MWC, it matters not. If he can play then he can play and he can play. I seem to remember a player from the MWC going first overall a couple of years ago.

5. I don't think Butler is that quick, I don't think he reacts to creative route running particularly well because I don't think he flips his hips particlularly well. He's much more suited to zone coverage in the pros.

6. I just don't see Jeff Ireland using a pick on a redshirt sophomore WR who will, in all likelihood take 2 years to come to the boil learning the 2nd most difficult position in the NFL.

7. Ireland himself pretty much admitted that they were closely looking at Tyson Jackson when he talked to Muck and the rest of the website heads a week or so ago.

 

Well Cody Brown doesn't hustle and doesn't chase plays away from him very well, which won't make him popular, he is often outworked by Julius Williams; his teammate. McKenzie doesn't have the size to play for us IMO. He won't be a guy who canstack and shed like we need to be effective. Raji, has slow hands and really is a bull rush player, he doesn't disengage quickly or redirect as well as other DT's. I'm not saying he's awful, just not my personal favorite.

I say Alex Boone because of the history of drafting players that are around a 4.02 height to weight ratio. Maser has done it for a while himself. The O-line guys are usually long and lean not too heavy look at who we drafted last year. Murphy was the biggest weight wise at 318 lbs and 6'4'' but for the majority of their collective time in the league these mean have come close to this ratio. It means most guys will be 6'5''-6'7'' and 305 -315 or so. Obviously it isn't exact but you get the idea.

Some of the time it is issues, so of the time it is the player themselves. Don't change anything because I or others don't agree, I'm not saying that as all I can offer is opinion the same as you

 

Speaking of Kevin Barnes as I was; apparently the injury isn't nearly as bad as first thought - it was supposed to be a torn labrum, torn rotator cuff, fractured collarbone and fractured shoulder blade - but it's not as bad and he will be ready to go for the Senior Bowl, reinvigorating his stock.

 

Its not just his size, it is his playing style. James Laurinaitis for instance is always around the ball, but he doesn't stack and shed well. Neither does McKenzie IIRC, they use their athleticism to run around blocks opposed to taking them head on more often than not. Those type of player don't thrive in a 3-4 a majority of the time.

Thanks, we try.

 

Thanks for the nice comment - you're doing a pretty damn good job on your own.

Egboh has had a disappointing season and his lack of consistency is something that has frankly plauged him.

I agree that Kindle is a good special teamer, but I still don't see them signing off on a rush specialist who only goes one way and is probably no more than 235 dripping wet and will be shoved around at the next level. He lacks the bulk of the lighter NFL ends like Jason Taylor and Elvis Dumerville and when you can pick up late round and FA guys who trun into ST gems, I still don't see it. Sorry mate.

You see, I don't see Butler with great recovery speed. It's the beauty of the draft mate, we all see different things. I need to see more of him.

Maclin would be a good pick for anyone, but WR is, after QB, the most difficult pro position to learn. It's pretty rare for juniors to come in and dominate and for redshirt sophomores, even more so. There is so much to pick up and no matter how dominant you are in college, the step up is much bigger. Michael Crabtree is clearly a great college WR, but do you think he's ever run all the routes on the tree because I know he hasn't. Maclin has outstanding speed, but there has to be more to it than that. Ireland will want to build on this year and that means immediate contributors. I think 3 and 4 years starters, seniors or redshirt juniors will be taken on day 1. They want to hit with their 1 and two 2's the way they hit with Long, Merling and Langford and they'll expect at least one immediate contributor on day 2 much as Donald Thomas was.

Which leads us nicely into Tyson Jackson. I'm certainly not signing off on him as THE pick, but Ireland has clearly intonated that he's on the radar. At around 295, he has the frame to add 10lbs and move inside, much as Jay Ratliff has done with such success. Tyson is no real sack threat, but what he is is a tremendous run playing end, probably the best in the entire draft, who plays with great leverage in the run game and an excellent base. He can stack and shed and makes play after play against the run. He could easily become our Ty Warren and that's not a bad thing. He also is a long term starter, great kid and team captain.

All this helps.

 

The one thing about Egboh that I'll offer is from what I've seen they're using him as more of a DT than DE. That's going to affect his numbers. I think he's still a pretty good player and maybe not one to keep an eye on for the first round but perhaps the 2nd or 3rd.

 

You want a guy who should be taken in the 4th or higher but isn't even on most people's radar screens yet?

Julius Williams from UConn - #45 check him out. He blows his much heralded teammate; Cody Brown out of the water IMO.

 

Holy crap, Does he really run a 4.62 in the 40?

 

I don't know. But I know his first 3 steps are lethal.

2:50 in is a clip of him. Look around and you'll find stuff. Look for #45.

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Joe Pawalek makes a lot of plays. But probably should stay at Baylor for his senior campaign. Does a MUCH better job of getting off blocks than Laurinatis does.

 

Laurinaitis definitely falls into the program makes me better than I am category.

 

Another guy that might be woth a look in the middle rounds is Sean Lee of Penn State- if he wasn't red shirted, I don't know. He'll slide because of the ACL tear but may prove to be a value pick. He's listed somewhere around 6-2, 235- not ideal, but they can put some weight on him.

 

I'm a very big Michigan State fan and I watch them play every week here in Michigan, and I would love to see Otis Wiley come here. The dude is a play maker and is one of the best safeties in the NCAA in my opinion.

 

He said he's going back to PSU next year.

 

The other PSU guy, Aaron Maybin, is an interesting name. He doesn't have consistent explosivness off the line as you would like but he brings it. He's a bit raw and is one-dimensional in my opinion, he doesn't shed well or use his hands well and he relies on his athletic ability but he can get to the Quarterback and has a good motor. I don't think he'll end up being a Miami Dolphin if or when he comes out though. One question I have with him is that is he the next Vernon Gholston? I sure hope not.

 

Blasphemy! Gholston never showed the hustle Maybin shows play-in play-out, and Maybin is a RS(SO). He was never supposed to be a full-time starter this year, but injuries and suspensions killed the d-line.

 

I said I sure hope not.

 

Chris - CK - is a big Otis Wiley fan.

 

Thanks for the late night read gentlemen...

 

Jesus Christ. Did anyone see that sack & fumble by Greg Hardy? Talk about quickness off the line.

 

Try being at work!