Tua...''He's the greatest prospect ever''

He operated by throwing for more yards than he has ever thrown, more touchdowns than he has ever thrown, and with a higher completion percentage he as ever put up, all without missing a single game.

 

Dolphins Tua Tagovailoa stars in Super Bowl ad

 

We can talk about ways he should approve all day. I have never shied away from criticizing Tua. But saying he's overweight despite him taking a step forward statistically and being better about protecting himself I'd hardly being "true to ourselves". It's an opinion at this point.

 

Sure but that's just another strawman. It's no different than you always referring to those who disagree with you as trolls, but saying you don't mean me. By "you guys" I simply meant the Tua-is-perfect-therem-are-no-shortcomings-in-his-game crowd.

A strawman is a created argument that is different from the original argument, and serves no other purpose than to not discuss the original point, but to divert into other things.

 

Right.

BECAUSE HE CARED.

You can be happy with Tua and the results this season. I respect your opinion.

I'm fine with Tua and his shortcomings, in that I understand it's hard to upgrade...there's only a limited number of options. However, that still means that I believe they should persue every avenue to upgrade.

Honestly, from my perspective, what has driven this argument is that one side refuses to every acknowledge any points made by the other side. People don't feel heard, which leads to these circular arguments.

Like, I was raised to do my best, no matter whether it was soccer practice with my small high school basketball team, or playing in the NBA finals. When I see professionals at an event like the Pro Bowl, an event that exists solely to showcase the talents of the best of the best, and you go out there like that? It bothers me. People paid good money that they work hard for, to see him perform. And he didn't GAF.

 

Baker Mayfield has since come out and said that he and some other NFC QB’s shouted at Tua to stop, which caused Tua to think the activity had ended. Tua then tossed the football to the spotter. Then he realized it was still going and was out of synch.
It really doesn’t matter, but for those that think this means anything, as to the QB’s ability, this should make them think. That’s asking a lot though.

 

He’s mad because he hates Tua and thinks he sucks and Tua’s weight isn’t why he played poorly down the stretch. Relatively so…

It’s not that he doesn’t think Tua is overweight, he just thinks it’s an excuse that you’re using because in his vacant head he thinks Tua just sucks. Lol

 

I understand that different people carry weight differently. However, for me to believe that he's carrying 245 pounds, he'd have to be significantly bigger than our fullback, and I just don't see it.

 

Are you bothered by the ones who can't be bothered to show up

 

Tua himself said he got up to 235 at one point this offseason before getting down to 225. It looks to me that he’s all of 240+ at the Pro Bowl. And our FB is a lot of muscle. It’s a completely different look.

 

I'm talking during the season.

Unless Tua has been caught doing illegal and/or reprehensible activities, I can care less about how he's looking the Pro Bowl.

 

Well, the regular season was 2-3 weeks ago. I’d bet he weighed what he’s weighing right now the last month of the season.

 

Deep. Brilliant.

 

As someone who has been and someone who has seen someone others gain a lot of weight in a short amount of time after just not exercising, I doubt he was weighing that a couple of weeks ago.

 

Just watch him on hard knocks. He definitely gained weight during the season. He was reportedly 227 at the beginning of the season. I’d bet anything he put on another 10-15 during the season.

 

I just don't see it.

But if there's a reliable report/source that says otherwise, I'll admit that I'm wrong.

 

You think it's one small part where I thought he didn't GAF?

Maybe I mistyped.

My opinion after watching him in that skills competition was that he DGAF about winning that competition, and he DFAF about putting on the best show possible for the fans who voted for him, and who paid money to come see him perform.

That's what I saw.

 

On the team? I think I've said numerous times on the just month that what bothered me the most about the losses in December, was that three guys just didn't seem to care. They weren't playing with urgency or intensity.

So yeah, it bothers me when the other players don't show up.

I dont think I've blamed those losses on him. What I've been trying to say is that in those losses, where guys didn't show up, Tua lacks the physical abilities to create on his own and try to spark the team.

 

Yeah I was kinda disgusted that he wasn't setting and properly throwing, especially when he was doing badly, I thought I'd see him bear down and actually try.

And he didn't

 

I am talking about the pro bowl. Are Bills fans upset that Josh Allen has yet to show up to one?

 

Go watch the Skills competition video, and just pause it at the end when he's walking around talking to people. Look at his belly.

Or look at my profile pic

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I'm not concerned with other players on other teams, not sure why you are.

It's a really disingenuous argument, also. On one hand I've got people arguing the Pro Bowl is meaningless, so I shouldn't care...you're arguing that the Pro Bowl IS meaningful hence your dig that Allen hasn't made one.

 

Were you really?

 

Yeah I was

 

He has made multiple he has just never gone. The point is players don't care.

 

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This is where we're at with Tua. His detractors being "disgusted", literally "disgusted" with his effort on a barely seen and thought about dog and pony show.

 

Yeah but think of the 50 people in attendance

 

Keep on commenting about posters and violating the ToS.

Yeah I think it's disgusting when people disrespect others, or think they're better than someone else.

 

I don't care about that. If you don't want to go, then don't. I just think your should put out some effort if you choose to go. I mean it's a ****ing skills competition, it's not some arduous task.

 

So you don't care about the thousands of fans who pay to see the actual pro bowl hoping to see someone good and get stuck with Mac Jones every year but you do care about the 10 people that go to a skills competition and saw Tua half *** it in an extremely casual event