Tua...''He's the greatest prospect ever''

"OwesOwn614 wrote:

He'll get a pass. If the Raiders win, tomorrow's panel shows will all be saying Mahomes doesn't have enough help. Two years ago, when Tua only had Waddle and a friggin' sieve for an offensive line, the same geniuses said he wasn't good enough to be a franchise QB.

I don't what ticks me off more, the fact that they're so full of **** or that they've actually made me appreciate the relative objectivity of Dan Orlovsky.

IDK if anyone will have the nerve to defend Mahomes after what transpired today. He gave the Raiders two touchdowns in seven seconds. There's nobody else to blame but Kermit for this one.

"OwesOwn614 wrote:

He'll get a pass. If the Raiders win, tomorrow's panel shows will all be saying Mahomes doesn't have enough help. Two years ago, when Tua only had Waddle and a friggin' sieve for an offensive line, the same geniuses said he wasn't good enough to be a franchise QB.

I don't what ticks me off more, the fact that they're so full of **** or that they've actually made me appreciate the relative objectivity of Dan Orlovsky.

Loved Orlovsky's comment "You guys are acting like he is me."

This is what people need to look at who are still not sold in this Qb

https://x.com/BenFennell_NFL/status/1739691529118076960?s=20

Study the movement, the Grace, the coordination, the manipulation with footwork, shoulders head and eyes

NOBODY is pkaying Qb like this, nobody

That’s why you should love our Qb, because we can build off this level of talent, such high level speed of process

"djphinfan wrote:

This is what people need to look at who are still not sold in this Qb

https://x.com/BenFennell_NFL/status/1739691529118076960?s=20

Tua SNAPPING his eyes back around this play fake... Whew! And a lovely concept by McDaniel!

Another completion under 2.5 seconds w/ 15+ air yards...

1. Tagovailoa - 27
2. Lawrence - 11
3. 4 Tied - 7

...highest regular season total in last 10 years - 2015 Carson Palmer (33). pic.twitter.com/7KSVeTHMHr

— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) December 26, 2023

Study the movement, the Grace, the coordination, the manipulation with footwork, shoulders head and eyes

NOBODY is pkaying Qb like this, nobody

That’s why you should love our Qb, because we can build off this level of talent, such high level speed of process

As long as the OL can hold the rush long enough and give Tua a CLEAN pocket, he’s going to pick them apart.

The fact he has such a quick release will bide well for us.

Defensively, keep a spy on Jackson and blanket his receivers.

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

As long as the OL can hold the rush long enough and give Tua a CLEAN pocket, he’s going to pick them apart.

The fact he has such a quick release will bide well for us.

Defensively, keep a spy on Jackson and blanket his receivers.

Lamar is great, space is our enemy so fill lanes and gaps with defenders

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

As long as the OL can hold the rush long enough and give Tua a CLEAN pocket, he’s going to pick them apart.

The fact he has such a quick release will bide well for us.

Defensively, keep a spy on Jackson and blanket his receivers.

And not give Jackson a short field by throwing four INTs.

"djphinfan wrote:

Lamar is great, space is our enemy so fill lanes and gaps with defenders

A lot has changed in two years* but we'll help our cause if we don't give up a 103 yard kickoff return to start the game, a 75 yard pass for a touchdown, and a 79 yard scramble for score.

The irritating thing about the Comeback was the fact that we had huge breakdowns that put us in that hole to begin with. We need Vic to dial up a winning game plan.

*EDIT: In ONE year. For some reason, I thought Tua's miraculous second-half was in 2021 instead of 2022.

"OwesOwn614 wrote:

A lot has changed in two years* but we'll help our cause if we don't give up a 103 yard kickoff return to start the game, a 75 yard pass for a touchdown, and a 79 yard scramble for score.

The irritating thing about the Comeback was the fact that we had huge breakdowns that put us in that hole to begin with. We need Vic to dial up a winning game plan.

*EDIT: In ONE year. For some reason, I thought Tua's miraculous second-half was in 2021 instead of 2022.

Do the Ravens have a speed WR? DC loves to let them run free across the defense.

"dolphin25 wrote:

Do the Ravens have a speed WR? DC loves to let them run free across the defense.

Zay Flowers is low 4.4

"djphinfan wrote:

This is what people need to look at who are still not sold in this Qb

https://x.com/BenFennell_NFL/status/1739691529118076960?s=20

Tua SNAPPING his eyes back around this play fake... Whew! And a lovely concept by McDaniel!

Another completion under 2.5 seconds w/ 15+ air yards...

1. Tagovailoa - 27
2. Lawrence - 11
3. 4 Tied - 7

...highest regular season total in last 10 years - 2015 Carson Palmer (33). pic.twitter.com/7KSVeTHMHr

— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) December 26, 2023

Study the movement, the Grace, the coordination, the manipulation with footwork, shoulders head and eyes

NOBODY is pkaying Qb like this, nobody

That’s why you should love our Qb, because we can build off this level of talent, such high level speed of process

Tua has the smoothest feet of any QB in history. Dramatically underrated part of his game. You have to be a great athlete to do this.

Things are different now than the year of Manning's first MVP but this is still interesting.

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

Zay Flowers is low 4.4

And very good

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

Zay Flowers is low 4.4

He looks really solid, but not totally dangerous.

"dolphin25 wrote:

He looks really solid, but not totally dangerous.

I would not want the ball in his hands with space. He has the ability to make something happen.

"dolphin25 wrote:

He looks really solid, but not totally dangerous.

Anytime I’ve watched the Ravens he is the one that is making plays for them.

I just saw the all 22 angle on the waddle bomb dime, angle that’s in front of the Los

Tua throws the ball with just peripheral vision to waddle while waddle is at the 20 yard line, waddle does not even know the ball is in the air, and he catches it at the 50, that’s some Majic **** man, you’ve got to see it from the front side angle on all 22, the anticipation and accuracy is not something I’ve seen to this level, this is special and some folks are running saying he didn’t play his best

Wtf man he missed a few throws who the **** doesn’t.

Tired of this freakin narrative even with our own fans

Dude is doing special things, don’t fall into the trap of not slowing the reps down to watch what he’s actually doing after the snap that noone else is

Sorry if I’m being a bit redundant but the fact that nooone talks about how he’s doing this with 4/5ths of his line out is just the icing in the cake

Freaking dude doesn’t even need a line to protect him cause he does it all faster deeper and more accurately than anyone in the game

The dude is throwing 55 yards no looks bombs, yup

"djphinfan wrote:

I just saw the all 22 angle on the waddle bomb dime, angle that’s in front of the Los

Tua throws the ball with just peripheral vision to waddle while waddle is at the 20 yard line, waddle does not even know the ball is in the air, and he catches it at the 50, that’s some Majic **** man, you’ve got to see it from the front side angle on all 22, the anticipation and accuracy is not something I’ve seen to this level, this is special and some folks are running saying he didn’t play his best

Wtf man he missed a few throws who the **** doesn’t.

Tired of this freakin narrative even with our own fans

Dude is doing special things, don’t fall into the trap of not slowing the reps down to watch what he’s actually doing after the snap that noone else is

Sorry if I’m being a bit redundant but the fact that nooone talks about how he’s doing this with 4/5ths of his line out is just the icing in the cake

Freaking dude doesn’t even need a line to protect him cause he does it all faster deeper and more accurately than anyone in the game

The dude is throwing 55 yards no looks bombs, yup

I keep on saying this because I find it amazing. I am not shocked when a 40+ yard ball is not completed. Like, shocked. He throws one of the best deep balls I have ever seen.

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

I keep on saying this because I find it amazing. I am not shocked when a 40+ yard ball is not completed. Like, shocked. He throws one of the best deep balls I have ever seen.

Exceptional on both throws out of his endzone.. like I’m just waiting for some media analyst to really shine light on what this dude is doing

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

I would not want the ball in his hands with space. He has the ability to make something happen.

Agreed, so need to contain him. I don't really want any speedy WR running across the defense without any restrictions. We have seen that too many times this year.

"Springveldt wrote:

Anytime I’ve watched the Ravens he is the one that is making plays for them.

only 700 yards for the season.

"dolphin25 wrote:

only 700 yards for the season.

They don’t throw for a lot of yards, Lamar has 6 games under 200 yards. How that equates to MVP is a struggle in my mind.

"dolphin25 wrote:

Agreed, so need to contain him. I don't really want any speedy WR running across the defense without any restrictions. We have seen that too many times this year.

He might not play. Two practices in a row DNP

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

I keep on saying this because I find it amazing. I am not shocked when a 40+ yard ball is not completed. Like, shocked. He throws one of the best deep balls I have ever seen.

There has been 1 throw all season that I can remember being shocked at when Tua went deep to Waddle and completely overthrew him (turns out it was a miscommunication). It seems like every other deep throw if the receiver runs the right route and doesn’t slow down (like Achane) then the ball hits them in the hands every time whether it’s 30, 40 or 50 yards downfield.

I watch other QB’s overthrow guys by 10 yards and give their receiver no shot at catching the ball yet Tua’s deep ball is nearly always catchable.

"FinFaninBuffalo wrote:

Tua has the smoothest feet of any QB in history. Dramatically underrated part of his game. You have to be a great athlete to do this.

You’re rubbing Tua’s feet????

YIKES!!!!!

:sidelol:

"OwesOwn614 wrote:

Things are different now than the year of Manning's first MVP but this is still interesting.

If you look purely at stats, wins, etc…common sense would dictate Tua’s MVP win but seeing how the NFL is evolving into the WWF, it’s not going to come down to stats and wins…it’s going to come down to the Super Bowl.

The ONLY WAY Tua is going to win league MVP is if the Dolphins win the Super Bowl.