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Tua to the Patriots?

Discussion in 'NFL Draft Forum' started by shadokp, Nov 23, 2019.

  1. shadokp

    shadokp Active Member

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  2. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Cue the handwringers who will start clamoring for us to draft Tua regardless, to prevent the Pats from getting him.
     
  3. Pauly

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    What the Pats are doing it isn’t luck. It’s knowing the value of draft picks and free agents. It’s having a plan and taking steps to implement the plan without barking at squirrels.
    I doubt Tua lasts long enough for the Pats to draft him, but if they do it’s because they laid the groundwork to be in a position to take a falling QB 5 years ago.
     
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  4. Vertical Limit

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    The Patriots are definitely going to take a quarterback this year... whether Brady likes it or not... but i think the plan is to develop the qb behind Brady..

    It would be a good situation for Tua who probably needs time to recover. But also Tua needs to probably sit two years to see the pro game. He isnt a prospect I would start Right away in the NFL.
     
  5. cbrad

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    Has anyone noticed that Brady is currently slightly below average statistically speaking?

    That's after 402 passing attempts so it's not just too small sample size to dismiss. We'll see if he ends this season below average but if he does this will be the first time in his career that's happened. Furthermore, that statistical result is mostly due to the last 5 games which was mostly against weaker competition (3 of the 5 were NYG, NYJ and CLE) and it's not like NE as a team is suddenly weaker (anything but!).

    So with 6 games to go it's possible we may see the first true statistical evidence of Brady's decline.
    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BradTo00.htm
     
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  6. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    I mean, Tua to the Pats would be a dream scenario for him since he'd sit for a few years while learning the "Patriot Way"...and it would be a pure nightmare for Miami if he did actually develop. We cleared the roster for cap space anyway so at this point, I'm drafting Tua no matter what if he's there in the middle of the 1st and developing him for a few seasons.

    That's exactly why we tanked in the first place...not essentially for Tua, but to build a complete roster the right way. That starts with having your QB of today and hopefully your QB of tomorrow in the system as well.
     
  7. danmarino

    danmarino Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    He finished 2013 with an 87 passer rating. Do you happen to know what the average rating for that year was?

    I've been talking about his decline in The Club for over a month. It's easy to see that he's done. He knows where he wants to put the ball, but he just can't get it there anymore.
     
  8. danmarino

    danmarino Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    This is Brady's last year in NE. Who would Tua sit behind?
     
  9. cbrad

    cbrad . Club Member

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    86.

    Here are Brady's z-scores by year:
    2001: 0.8084
    2002: 0.5665
    2003: 0.6719
    2004: 0.7495
    2005: 1.1214
    2006: 0.7350
    2007: 2.9871
    2009: 0.8857
    2010: 2.3339
    2011: 1.6253
    2012: 1.1388
    2013: 0.1097
    2014: 0.8587
    2015: 1.3585
    2016: 2.0384
    2017: 1.6086
    2018: 0.4004
    2019: -0.2491 (so far)
     
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  10. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    Why do you think that? Did Brady come out and actually say it? I agree it should be his last year....but I'm not sure it will be.
     

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