Tweets of interest: Practice 8/16 injury update

hey if any of you can make it to the next practice can you observe how well these players play.

I 'm curious about Clay, Bush, Thomas and Wallace and how are they doing . any notes would be apreciated.

go phins

Livas and Misi back at practice..:knucks:

KLV760 Ken LaVicka
Bush not working w punt returners today. Livas, Gates, Bess.

Good news for Livas, Gates is not as natural as Livas fielding kicks and he would not be back there if they were happy with Bess's output.

bbiggane Brian Biggane
Reggie bush 1 v 1 on Will Allen: Bush gets held at first, gets loose and runs his route while Allen gives up coverage. Not good for Allen.

Ain't looking good for Will Allen's comeback attempt sadly enough as he was a warrior for us in 2008.

OmarKelly Omar Kelly
Randy Starks and Ike Alama-Francis just split a double team to destroy a run in the backfield.

Ike has sort of come into his own as a Sam, I had just about written him off after playing stiffly last yr, but this Camp he is doing things.

"padre31 wrote:

Ike has sort of come into his own as a Sam, I had just about written him off after playing stiffly last yr, but this Camp he is doing things.

As did I..it sounds like he's doing some good things out there.

"padre31 wrote:

Ike has sort of come into his own as a Sam, I had just about written him off after playing stiffly last yr, but this Camp he is doing things.

I seem to recall Ike being ahead of Misi on the depth chart last preseason, till the mystery illness. Ike looks like he is packing more muscle mass now than he was a year ago. I'd have no qualms if we had to start him across from Wake.

"MrClean wrote:

I seem to recall Ike being ahead of Misi on the depth chart last preseason, till the mystery illness. Ike looks like he is packing more muscle mass now than he was a year ago. I'd have no qualms if we had to start him across from Wake.

He looks leaner this yr, and more fluid, he is also gaining more penetration then he had last TC, could be he finally found his fit.

OmarKelly Omar Kelly
Jason Taylor just had his way with Lydon Murtha. The old man can still pass rush.

Anyone want to take odds on JT being the SOLB on MNF vs the Pats?

JeffDarlington Jeff Darlington
@Roberto_Wallace with a great one-handed catch in the endzone on
a 40-yard completion. Follows up with another catch on next play.

As I've followed lil Beast, his problem has always been consistency

KLV760 Ken LaVicka
Moore, Wallace hook-up for 40 yd TD in 7on7's. Good throw, better catch over Culver. Moore good throws today

MM having a good practice as well

bbiggane Brian Biggane
Moore getting reps with first team. Didn't get any last two days.

Makes sense, Henne has missed time due to injuries, Moore needs 1st team reps.

"padre31 wrote:

He looks leaner this yr, and more fluid, he is also gaining more penetration then he had last TC, could be he finally found his fit.

Anyone want to take odds on JT being the SOLB on MNF vs the Pats?

So we don't wear him down too soon, maybe the prudent thing to do would be use JT like we used Trace in his last season in Miami. Never started a game and made the Pro Bowl being a nickel package DE.

Anyone think Ike has potential to start at the Sam and allow us to move Wake to the Will?

"padre31 wrote:

As I've followed lil Beast, his problem has always been consistency

IMO, his problem is lack of reps. He just needs more experience catching passes and playing real football and the consistency will come.

"MrClean wrote:

So we don't wear him down too soon, maybe the prudent thing to do would be use JT like we used Trace in his last season in Miami. Never started a game and made the Pro Bowl being a nickel package DE.

I don't think JT's pride will allow him to do that Mr C, he may be the Starter for the first couple of series, but JT imo, does not see himself as anything but a Starter.

OmarKelly Omar Kelly
Jason Taylor just pulled a twist with Phil Merling. John Jerry missed the block and the QB would have been sent to the hospital if live.

Love good Dline play, love it, so rare to see today, and Merling is the Vet I'm watching.

"FinNasty wrote:

Anyone think Ike has potential to start at the Sam and allow us to move Wake to the Will?

Wake seems to be more comfortable and natural rushing from the left side. IMO, that is why the use him there so much. Whomever plays across from Wake will be mostly on the right side, which is Will vs a right handed traditional pro set. Misi and Ike both played the right side for the most part the other night. After Wake left, Trusnik came in to play in his spot.

"padre31 wrote:

I don't think JT's pride will allow him to do that Mr C, he may be the Starter for the first couple of series, but JT imo, does not see himself as anything but a Starter.

Love good Dline play, love it, so rare to see today, and Merling is the Vet I'm watching.

When he signed with the Jets, I recall that being the role Rex said he wanted to use him in, and JT was cool with that. Due to injuries they were forced to use him much more than originally planned in the base defense.

OmarKelly Omar Kelly
Phillip Livas is back working as a returner. He still has the burst despite the hamstring.

Told O early this morning that Livas will be his 1 Training Camp miss, he has one every yr, he feels Livas is not a good enough Wr, I pointed out that the last 2 yrs Sparano has done all he could to have a Returner type, go SNL..go baby!

"MrClean wrote:

When he signed with the Jets, I recall that being the role Rex said he wanted to use him in, and JT was cool with that. Due to injuries they were forced to use him much more than originally planned in the base defense.

Which is how it works with JT, now Koa is knicked, and JT is playing like a mad man for a reason Mr C.

Some guys are just Closers.

"padre31 wrote:

I don't think JT's pride will allow him to do that Mr C, he may be the Starter for the first couple of series, but JT imo, does not see himself as anything but a Starter.

Love good Dline play, love it, so rare to see today, and Merling is the Vet I'm watching.

Whenever it gets mentioned we trade one of our DL, seems like Merling gets most of the action, followed by Starks, for some reason. But, my guess right now would be Odrick and Merling as the primary DTs in our nickel package 4 man line, with Wake and JT at the ends. That line could potentially wreak havoc like the Giants do with their nickel rush line.

"padre31 wrote:

Which is how it works with JT, now Koa is knicked, and JT is playing like a mad man for a reason Mr C.

Some guys are just Closers.

And coffee, along with sacks, are for closers!

I agree that JT should be used in a Trace Armstrong manner. I also think that he expects to be used in that way and would prefer it over being a starter.

"padre31 wrote:

Which is how it works with JT, now Koa is knicked, and JT is playing like a mad man for a reason Mr C.

Some guys are just Closers.

That is just the way he always has played, no matter his role or position. You think JT would demand he be the starter at one OLB even if the coaches decide to start Misi there?

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

Or Maybe we should consider starting Moore over Henne.

You really haven't changed... you still have a lovefest for the #1 WR and the backup QB.

"rafael wrote:

I agree that JT should be used in a Trace Armstrong manner. I also think that he expects to be used in that way and would prefer it over being a starter.

Exactly my feelings. I don't know what Padre means by JT's pride won't let him do that? Heck, he agreed to that kind of role with Rex and the Jets when they signed him last year. Then injuries forced them to use JT much more than first planned.

"rafael wrote:

I agree that JT should be used in a Trace Armstrong manner. I also think that he expects to be used in that way and would prefer it over being a starter.

I don't Rafi and Mr C as well, JT was on Joe Rose's show right after he signed and he used a baseball analogy:

"I can still go 6 innings, but not the whole game"

Instead of the other way around "I can still come in and close out games"

It is clear as day, JT is a better player in the 4th qtr and it will be interesting to see how Sparano and Nolan manage the situation.