two questions unanswered:
1) how good will Henne be? the answer may make the difference between a good season & the SuperBowl. will he hit a third year slump before taking off or will he reap the advantage of being skillfully handled & carefully brought along by the coaching staff?
will the IceMan reap the benefits of shadowing Chad Pennington, will the apprenticeship pay big & early dividends?
what will happen when the rubber meets the road, will there emerge the Franchise QB to lead us to the BigEnchilada in 2010?
2) hate to bring it up again but what about our last line of defense, what about the FreeSafety position? won't elaborate on this one, I'll leave that to you.
possibilities: Chis Clemons, R. Jones (a lot rides on experience @ FreeSafety)
maybe Jason Allen has earned a new look or Tyrone Culver will prevail? Can Will Allen play the position?
what to do? its a conundrum.
what do you think?
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I think Chad Henne will be very good. I'm talking about good to the Superbowl good. He has shown enough to convince me. I don't know about anyone else but I believe we have a chance to win it all this year.
Regarding the Free Safety position, I think Clemons will eventually win out. I truly believe that we are better there than we may realize. IMO this is a good squad and it might take a game or two to see that but I think they will be just fine. Good thread.Phinatic425 likes this. -
I think Chad Henne will be very good. I'm talking about good to the Superbowl good. He has shown enough to convince me. I don't know about anyone else but I believe we have a chance to win it all this year.
Regarding the Free Safety position, I think Clemons will eventually win out. I truly believe that we are better there than we may realize. IMO this is a good squad and it might take a game or two to see that but I think they will be just fine. Good thread. -
Im not so much worried about Henne. He has all the tools to get it done, and with Marshall he's being given a great chance. I think we're still going to see some growing pains out of Henne this year, still a few boneheaded INT's, still probably a few missed opportunities. But IMO, that's to be expected since he really doesn't have all that much game experience yet. Last year was huge for him, but lets face it, he's still relatively inexperienced.
As for the FS position... it scares the living hell out of me right now. Whoever wins that job, I hope theyre able to do a damn good job. Im very unhappy about what we've done to address our need there. Hopefully one of these kids on the roster will pan out, and step up bigtime this year. -
Friend brandon27:
1) basically agree w/ your assessment of Henne & would throw in he plays behind one of the best offensive lines in the NFL w/one of the top running games in the league to open up an up-graded & very competitive passing game
having said that
there is a third year slump that many QB's hit & the truth is that Henne has yet to hit his stride. he has much to prove & improve. We need a Franchise QB to go to the SuperBowl. we need the IceMan up to speed in game-one.
2) I continue to be very concerned about the FreeSafety. Our corners are still learning the game & we lack experience & leadership in the defensive backfield. Problems @ FreeSafety often lead to opposition points on the board. -
I'm very upbeat about Henne and believe he will someday take us to the big dance, maybe even this season. However this is going to be a tough year, new people and DC, lots of game experience together needed to come together as a TEAM. We still have a few too many question marks to be expecting a SB appearance IMVHO, but I sure would love it!
IMO this season we find out if the team has taken the next step to a perennial upper echelon & contending team. Then NEXT off season we may need to add 1 or 2 more final pieces/players to tweak this team and get to the SB in 2011-12.
Very much rooting for Clemons at FS, that position and OLB are our 2 biggest question marks, even far more so than Henne IMO. Can Mike Nolan take this D to the upper tier or top 10 this season? If he can, I believe we have the pieces in place on offense to go deep into the playoffs, and with a little (no, LOTS) of luck, we COULD even get to the big dance. -
Nolan has more to work w/ in Miami than he did in Denver.
expect more & varied blitzes to discourage going down field w/the ball
however
that probably won't be enough against the better teams we play.
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As to Henne....it's his time. He has had a full offseason, will have a full TC and they can build the O around his strengths (as opposed to Penny's strengths as it was last year). It's all in his proverbial hands right now... -
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hope so...going to have to be pressure like the Dolphins have never applied to a QB before to compensate for an inexperienced FS
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there remain two unanswered questions that will probably result in shaping the 2010 season:
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i'm more concerned with our front seven than our FS. WE have lost two key players before preseason has even started. another injury or two and we wont have an effective front seven anymore
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Henne is a good young quarterback and we have good backups in Pennington and Thigpen so we are in a better situation at quarterback than we have in years. Having Marshall certainly will bring a new option for our QB.
The situation at free safety is fluid and our current options are young and untested.
The ideal outcome would be that one of the young guys steps up and if so our secondary is set for years. There could still be someone on the waiver wire when teams start cutdowns if needed. -
the defense locks the front door w/ the NT in a 3/4 & the back door w/ the FreeSafety
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I'm not that worried about our FS position like you guys are. I believe that V Davis will be a star this year. S Smith will be a solid stud across from him. Will Allen will give us a very solid 3rd CB. Y Bell (if healthy) will have a good year. C Clemons will be average at best IMO. You give me a secondary where 4 out of 5 players give you a a ton of ability and the 5th player is average, and I'll be happy as hell.
Given that, the more pass rush Nolan can generate, the less we have to worry about the secondary.unluckyluciano likes this. -
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as for FS, its Clemons for lose, and call me crazy I think Culver is next in line for a crack at it....Allen I dont think has a shot, and Jones is too raw...
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Friend Killerphins:
1) if you burn the FreeSafety there are points on the board. think about it
2) the FS is in the best position on the field to make defensive calls & adjustments IF he is knowledgeable & experienced in making these calls. a wrong call would be worst than making no call. this is the guy that's got your back on defense. he has many game-time responsibilities aside from simply closing the back door. blitz as you will, one mistake in an elite passing game spells disaster.
3) our DL & OLB's are just fine, it's the defensive backfield in question
Friend finyank13:
the IceMan needs to step up as the Franchise QB or no SuperBowl. he's got to get it right from game one. the real question is not can he do it but will he do it. if he does not start strong he will be replaced by game four. Pennington is a Proven commodity & Thigpen awaits he's chance in great anticipation. this is not the year to not get it right @ QB. one thing I can guarantee you: one way or the other we will have a QB that get's it right this season :up: -
I don't understand how you can say the dl is fine when we have lost personnel, and will be attempting to move one of our better players to a new position. -
I think our own history shows that a great MLB can make the defensive adjustments/calls without a problem.
We were not the only teamed burned by Payton and Brees last year. I watched multiple games where Payton took control and marched right down the field last year to win games in the final minutes and there was nothing those defenses could do about it. We were no different. The only defense that saved their asses was the Saints.
We keep saying how we completely lost that game because of our bad FS play. And while that contributed, other defenders missed tackles on that play. Plus, maybe we should just give credit to some of the incredible offenses we played against last season.
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he'll fish or cut bait this year & it won't be a prolonged experience if things go south
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however I think they are going to give him EVERY opportunity to be that guy....only way they sit him is if he has more pics, then tds IMO.... -
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we will contend in 2010
with or without Henne
this is not a developmental experience
it is the 2010 season & we have a team
our QB stable is the best in the NFL
if you think for a moment
that a healthy Pennington can't move the ball
or that Thigpen is grossly inferior to Henne
you are sadly mistaken
we need a Franchise Quality QB to go to the SuperBowl
the Iceman is under center & ready to go
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Chad Pennington is not in the mix for the Dolphins backup QB job, according to coach Tony Sparano.
Pennington's shoulder issues leave him as a mere veteran presence for Chad Henne to lean on right now. The backup job is Tyler Thigpen's thanks to Pat White's lack of development.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...-camp-questions-0725-20100723,0,1105856.story -
yes, we need a franchise QB to go to the superbowl. If you think 35 year old Pennington, even when healthy, is our franchise QB, than you're not only the one that's sadly mistaken, you're delusional (in a overly-optimistic way).
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i politely disagree
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Some might argue that but honestly what has really changed if not just his #1 WR. All the other WRs, TEs, and RBs are the same.
So if he isn't somewhat in tune already come pre-season then it might not be a good sign. Doesn't mean the sky is falling but it would be highly discouraging.
2) This is what I am most disappointed about. I just have a gut feeling we will see Ted Ginn drama all over the place, but this time concerning the FS position.
I guess the Tri-Fecta needs to get its lumps in the head before they ever really address issues?
Oh I know they tried to land a few top FS in FA but they ultimately didnt think the money was worth the upgrade.
Reminds me of the drama over Ted Ginn and upgrading the WR corps. I think they will be proven wrong once again. Although I hope I am the one that is wrong of course.
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you might be right
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The answer to question number one is yes.
The answer to question number two is maybe.