Tyreek Hill apparently wants out...

"resnor wrote:

We watched Achane get caught from behind last game, which really surprised me.

that was rather odd. Thought he was gone for sure.

Don’t forget the other wr named Washington that’s on the roster.

"resnor wrote:

Yeah I was just surprised that the safety was able to catch up enough to do that.

The guy before him tripped him up letting him "catch up". The difference in speed can be just one step sometimes.

Pick your poison, pure speculation...

One of the contending teams for the Chiefs throne is going to lose this weekend. Would either Buffalo or Baltimore view Hill as a missing piece once their season ends?

Would the Dolphins be interested in trading him within the conference or division? What would it take for you to make a move like this, knowing you'll be facing him between 1 or 2 times this upcoming season?

"Striking wrote:

Pick your poison, pure speculation...

One of the contending teams for the Chiefs throne is going to lose this weekend. Would either Buffalo or Baltimore view Hill as a missing piece once their season ends?

Would the Dolphins be interested in trading him within the conference or division? What would it take for you to make a move like this, knowing you'll be facing him between 1 or 2 times this upcoming season?

If we trade Hill I would not even think of sending him to Buffalo. I want to see him rot in Cleveland if he asks for a trade but a likely landing spot might be a team like SF or Dallas.

"Tuanon4Life wrote:

If we trade Hill I would not even think of sending him to Buffalo. I want to see him rot in Cleveland if he asks for a trade but a likely landing spot might be a team like SF or Dallas.

Trading him out of the conference would be ideal but you may not get the best offer from those teams. Depends on how close they feel they are to winning division titles.

"Striking wrote:

Pick your poison, pure speculation...

One of the contending teams for the Chiefs throne is going to lose this weekend. Would either Buffalo or Baltimore view Hill as a missing piece once their season ends?

Would the Dolphins be interested in trading him within the conference or division? What would it take for you to make a move like this, knowing you'll be facing him between 1 or 2 times this upcoming season?

I can see KC coming back into the mix for Hill. I would never trade Tyreek to the Bills. I’m not sure if Tyreek would last on the Ravens. They seem to be pretty selfless. A trait he doesn’t have.

"Striking wrote:

Pick your poison, pure speculation...

One of the contending teams for the Chiefs throne is going to lose this weekend. Would either Buffalo or Baltimore view Hill as a missing piece once their season ends?

Would the Dolphins be interested in trading him within the conference or division? What would it take for you to make a move like this, knowing you'll be facing him between 1 or 2 times this upcoming season?

Can't beat either now. Take best offer. Any trade with them for a 2, is really more like an early 3

"dolphin25 wrote:

3686827, member: 7040"]Can't beat either now. Take best offer. Any trade with them for a 2, is really more like an early 3

Lmao… yeah, if you think you can’t beat a team (even though the Dolphins have beaten both fairly recently) trading to that team one of your best players, a player voted best in the league by his peers is smart. For a “high 3rd” at that.

Makes sense…

"danmarino wrote:

Lmao… yeah, if you think you can’t beat a team (even though the Dolphins have beaten both fairly recently) trading to that team one of your best players, a player voted best in the league by his peers is smart. For a “high 3rd” at that.

Makes sense…

We did that with Wes Welker and it bit us in the a$$ for years. If someone thinks it's OK to trade your best player to the division rival you're trying to catch they probably ate lead paint chips when they were a kid.

We’re not going to get higher than a 3rd round pick for Hill and here’s why.

If we trade Hill ahead of June 1st, the Dolphins are going to be on the hook for $28 million in cap space. No one in their right mind would pay a player $28 million to play against them. That’s stupid.

If we trade him after the June 1st, Miami will only be on the hook for $12 million. Now with that being said, no one is going to give up a 2nd rounder for Hill for the 2026 draft when Hill is already 31 now…32/33 in 2026. They’re going to want to keep that pick.

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

We’re not going to get higher than a 3rd round pick for Hill and here’s why.

If we trade Hill ahead of June 1st, the Dolphins are going to be on the hook for $28 million in cap space. No one in their right mind would pay a player $28 million to play against them. That’s stupid.

If we trade him after the June 1st, Miami will only be on the hook for $12 million. Now with that being said, no one is going to give up a 2nd rounder for Hill for the 2026 draft when Hill is already 31 now…32/33 in 2026. They’re going to want to keep that pick.

I could see the Ravens, especially if they don’t win a SB this year, offering a 2nd round pick for Tyreek. I could also see KC offering that.
I would hate to see him go to either place. And most definitely not the Bills.

We better stop talking about other teams that may want Hill because that isn’t the topic of the title of the thread and it may get closed. Lol

"danmarino wrote:

I could see the Ravens, especially if they don’t win a SB this year, offering a 2nd round pick for Tyreek. I could also see KC offering that.
I would hate to see him go to either place. And most definitely not the Bills.

Dallas could bite too. Jerry Jones is running out of time. Imagine trying to cover Lamb and Hill?

"Tuanon4Life wrote:

Dallas could bite too. Jerry Jones is running out of time. Imagine trying to cover Lamb and Hill?

They need to find a QB before they need to worry about the rest of it.

"danmarino wrote:

I assume you have some tape of them racing?
Tyreek is less than 3 months away from being 31 years old. It’s possible that he can still run a sub 4.3 40, but that’s a big assumption. We know that Achane ran a 4.32 2 years ago. Waddle (supposedly) ran a 4.37 4 years ago. Tyreek ran a 4.29 8 years ago. You’re implying that there’s no way Tyreek hasn’t slowed .03 seconds? OK.

Training Camp: What We Learned from 'Back Together Weekend' Sunday

"Speaking of speed, the debate over who the fastest Miami Dolphins player is rages on, going on two-plus years now. And Tyreek Hill doesn't appear to be ready to hand over fastest-man honors to Jaylen Waddle or any of his other Dolphins teammates. Although some of it is shrouded in mystery, Hill and Waddle are believed to have raced multiple times. Former Dolphins WR Robbie Chosen recently revealed that Waddle actually beat Hill in their most recent race, although Hill attempted to clear the air on that with some context."

Despite that, Hill runs routes faster, which is what really matters. At least he did until this year. He seemed off most of the year to me.

"Two Tacos wrote:

Training Camp: What We Learned from 'Back Together Weekend' Sunday

"Speaking of speed, the debate over who the fastest Miami Dolphins player is rages on, going on two-plus years now. And Tyreek Hill doesn't appear to be ready to hand over fastest-man honors to Jaylen Waddle or any of his other Dolphins teammates. Although some of it is shrouded in mystery, Hill and Waddle are believed to have raced multiple times. Former Dolphins WR Robbie Chosen recently revealed that Waddle actually beat Hill in their most recent race, although Hill attempted to clear the air on that with some context."

Despite that, Hill runs routes faster, which is what really matters. At least he did until this year. He seemed off most of the year to me.

I’m laughing:

“FormerDolphins WR Robbie Chosen recently revealed that Waddle actually beat Hill in their most recent race, although Hill attempted to clear the air on that with some context."

Some people… always confident, seldom right. lol

"dolphin25 wrote:

It would be fun to see what Waddle could do on the Bengals or Lions.

Real fans dream of seeing their team’s best players on other teams.

"M1NDCRlME wrote:

They need to find a QB before they need to worry about the rest of it.

They think they have a QB, that’s part of the problem in big D.

"resnor wrote:

We watched Achane get caught from behind last game, which really surprised me.

Caught after stumbling after having his leg chopped by a diving defender (Brandon Echols who ran a 4.36 or 4.34 at the combine). Waddle should have made that block.

"danmarino wrote:

I could see the Ravens, especially if they don’t win a SB this year, offering a 2nd round pick for Tyreek. I could also see KC offering that.
I would hate to see him go to either place. And most definitely not the Bills.

The thing though is the Dolphins would stupid to trade Hill before June 1st due to the hit on the cap. So would the Ravens or any other team trade a 2nd round pick for the 2026 draft? Maybe a 2nd for THIS year’s draft but not next years.

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

The thing though is the Dolphins would stupid to trade Hill before June 1st due to the hit on the cap. So would the Ravens or any other team trade a 2nd round pick for the 2026 draft? Maybe a 2nd for THIS year’s draft but not next years.

I’m not suggesting they should trade him before June 1st. Any trades concerning draft picks would need to be picks in 2026. I don’t think it would matter for a team looking for Tyreek now if it was a 2025 or 2026 pick.

"Two Tacos wrote:

Caught after stumbling after having his leg chopped by a diving defender (Brandon Echols who ran a 4.36 or 4.34 at the combine). Waddle should have made that block.

My entire comment was talking about Echols getting to him. I was surprised he got close enough to trip him up on the dive.

Achane is fast, I never expect to see him caught from behind.

"resnor wrote:

My entire comment was talking about Echols getting to him. I was surprised he got close enough to trip him up on the dive.

Achane is fast, I never expect to see him caught from behind.

Echols was one of the fastest CBs in his draft class, one site had his 40 time as 4.36 and an other 4.34 and had a free run from deeper up field. Meanwhile, Achane (who ran a 4.32 at the combine) had to cut and take contact from 27, but he still beat Echols. I just don't know what you were expecting. It wasn't a foot race. A person running a 4.30 forty yard dash will be a little less than 22 inches in front of someone running a 4.35 after 40 yards. How long is a stride? How long is an arm? If Waddle sees the safety in time and blocks him even a little that's a TD.

"Two Tacos wrote:

Echols was one of the fastest CBs in his draft class, one site had his 40 time as 4.36 and an other 4.34 and had a free run from deeper up field. Meanwhile, Achane (who ran a 4.32 at the combine) had to cut and take contact from 27, but he still beat Echols. I just don't know what you were expecting. It wasn't a foot race. A person running a 4.30 forty yard dash will be a little less than 22 inches in front of someone running a 4.35 after 40 yards. How long is a stride? How long is an arm? If Waddle sees the safety in time and blocks him even a little that's a TD.

Sure. I didn't know that AT THE TIME. When I was watching the game I didn't know anything about him, and when I made the original post, I didn't know.

All I was saying was that when I was watching it, when Achane broke through into the open field, I was really surprised to see him get caught from behind by Echols.

That's it.