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Tyrone Culver wants to be the answer at free safety

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  1. ATVZ400

    ATVZ400 Senior Member

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    Tyrone Culver wants to be the answer at free safety
    http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/04/06/1566556/culver-wants-to-be-the-answer.html



     
  2. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    between Culver, Clemons, Jason Allen
    & the possible conversion Sean Smith
    w/ the return of Will Allen to CornerBack,
    I think FreeSafety is well covered.
    I'm sure we'll add another to the mix
    via the draft, but it looks solid to me.

    Coach 'em up!:dolphin:
     
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  3. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=-

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    Questions: Do they give Culver a shot at it now? Can he prove it? 32 total tackles last year (less than the year before)...
     
  4. aesop

    aesop Well-Known Member

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    Culver and Clemons are big question marks, neither player has shown flashes of anything beyond mediocrity. Jason Allen? Kill me. Sean Smith has no shot of being converted. Well covered in question marks, maybe.
     
  5. PHINANALYST

    PHINANALYST Well-Known Member

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    it is not covered at all ... but Culver will certainly get a shot - no matter who we draft. all he has to do is show it on the field.
     
  6. Fin-Omenal

    Fin-Omenal Initiated

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    Culver was pretty good imo last year as a nickel and dime back...havent seen enough of him tackling to have an educated opinion on the switch, but I liked what he did in coverage in 09.
     
  7. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

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    I like him, I just wonder why he didn't fill in for Gibril much last year if he's the answer.
     
  8. SeanP

    SeanP Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Maybe not enough time to transition? If they transitioned him this year he'd have the full offseason to learn the position. Mid year might be too much of a shock I'd imagine.
     
  9. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    IMO Culver would do fine at FS. I don't think he has the speed to be great back there, but I think he can be as good (or slightly better) than Hill was two seasons ago. Overall our defense compares very favorably against the 2008 unit that ranked 15th.


    2008 depth chart
    RE = Vonnie Holliday, Phillip Merling, Rodrique Wright
    NT = Jason Ferguson, Paul Soliai, Anthony Toribio
    LE = Randy Starks, Kendall Langford, Lionel Dotson
    SOLB = Matt Roth, Charlie Anderson, Rob Ninkovich
    WILB = Channing Crowder
    SILB = Akin Ayodele, Reggie Torbor
    WOLB = Joey Porter, Quentin Moses
    RCB = Andre Goodman, Jason Allen
    LCB = Will Allen
    SS = Yeremiah Bell
    FS = Renaldo Hill

    2010 depth chart
    RE = Randy Stark, Ryan Baker, Lionel Dotson
    NT = Paul Soliai, Tony McDaniel, Jason Ferguson
    LE = Kendall Langford, Phillip Merling, Ikaika Alama-Francis
    WOLB = Cameron Wake, Erik Walden
    WILB = Karlos Dansby, J.D Folsom
    SILB = Channing Crowder, Reggie Torbor
    SOLB = Charlie Anderson, Quentin Moses, Brian Johnston
    RCB = Sean Smith, Jason Allen, Evan Oglesby
    FS = Tyrone Culver, Chris Clemons, Nate Ness
    SS = Yeremiah Bell
    LCB = Vontae Davis, Will Allen

    I see our DL as slightly better assuming Soliai develops. The 2010 version of Starks is an upgrade over a good Holliday and Langford is about equal to the 2008 Starks. I think Soliai should be close to the IMO over rated two down 2008 Fergy. And by the second half of the season I think our run downs NTs are better than they were in 2008. I also think McDaniel is better as our third down NT than anything we were using in 2008.

    AT LB Wake's development is key. IMO he can be this year's Dumervil for Nolan. If so he won't be huge downgrade from Porter as a pass rusher and will be at least as good against the run (Porter's work against the run is pretty low bar). I think Anderson or Moses should be better than Roth as rushers but weaker against the run. Dansby should be a huge upgrade over Crowder and will have an even bigger impact in our nickel and dime defenses. I also think Crowder is a significant upgrade over Ayodele at SILB.

    In the secondary, the development of the CBs is key. If Davis and Smith progress than I see W. Allen as a vast improvement over J. Allen in the nickel spot. Bell should be the same if not better at SS and Culver should be as good or better than Hill was.

    And this is pre-draft and the rest of FA. I would like to add JT or another SOLB. I'm pretty sure we'll add somebody as this draft is very deep at OLB (Worlids maybe?). I would also like to improve the depth at ILB with a late round pick.

    If we take FS like ET or Berry early then that position becomes a huge strength. But even if we don't and take 3rd or 4th round FS I think we're improved from 2008.

    IMO even with no improvement we can be a 15th ranked defense. So I don't think things are as dire as some portray. IMO people are caught looking at last year and think it was a talent problem. But we were much better the year before with a very similar talent level. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't upgrade the defensive talent. Just that our defense isn't doomed if we don't draft 4 LBs or other such nonsense.
     
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  10. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    where does this speculation of converting S Smith to safety come from? that's not even a rumor. not going to happen.
     
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  11. hazed819

    hazed819 Well-Known Member

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    man our whole secondary needs work, they are so unorganized at times, we burned on big plays too much, too many mistakes and Y Bell is getting up there in age and hes the only vet we got back there.
     
  12. Phinatic425

    Phinatic425 MIA State of Mind

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    I would like to see Sean Smith at safety. Put him there during the pre-season and see how he does.
     
  13. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    not physical enough, doesn't tackle real well
    bad combo for a FS
     
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  14. PHINANALYST

    PHINANALYST Well-Known Member

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    Raf ..... if we take your depth chart

    2010 depth chart
    RE = Randy Stark, Ryan Baker, Lionel Dotson
    NT = Paul Soliai, Tony McDaniel, Jason Ferguson
    LE = Kendall Langford, Phillip Merling, Ikaika Alama-Francis
    WOLB = Cameron Wake, Erik Walden
    WILB = Karlos Dansby, J.D Folsom
    SILB = Channing Crowder, Reggie Torbor
    SOLB = Charlie Anderson, Quentin Moses, Brian Johnston
    RCB = Sean Smith, Jason Allen, Evan Oglesby
    FS = Tyrone Culver, Chris Clemons, Nate Ness
    SS = Yeremiah Bell
    LCB = Vontae Davis, Will Allen

    and add:

    S = Burnett in rd 2
    DE = Carrington in rd 3
    OLB = Lane in rd 3 (bonus for trading down)
    NT = Joseph in rd 4
    (maybe another rd 4 pick for trading down)
    ILB: Chaney / Dillard or CB: Cook / Ansa or WR: White / Williams

    and then throw in whomever in rd 1 .... wether that be WR: Marshall, Bryant; SOLB: Morgan, Graham, Griffen; WOLB: Hughes, Kindle; S: Berry, Thomas; DE: Odrick; G: Iupati; RB: Spiller ... gives us great improvement -- albeit, i still believe we go OLB, DE or WR.

    on your depth chart - we don't have a suitable SOLB .... one that weighs 260+ (Moses isn't the guy, and Johnston is an unkown) and Anderson is clearly a WOLB = Lane fills this gap. S is a big questionmark ... Culver may be able to fill the gap, and Clemons is an unknown (albeit, i still think he has great potential) = Burnett can step in. picking a guy like Odrick and / or Carrington provides us some flexibility with Starks to move to NT ... at least to start the season (Merling is eh, and Baker is an unknown). Joseph provides additional depth immediately at NT, but doubt he'd be ready to go right away - which leads me back to Starks and DE.

    this still leaves Wake as a big ???? at WOLB ... which could be fixed with Hughes or Kindle.
     
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  15. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Of our three current top corners, Smith is by far the worst one to consider converting. Though in reality none of them will be.
     
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