[Updated] Dolphins trading for Reggie Bush | Agrees to 2-yr deal

"Nappy Roots wrote:

Show me someone we can get that has a bunch of 60+ runs we could acquire

Why would I? I didn't argue that we'd need a big home run hitter. I think it's a mistake to rely on a rookie and an often hurt Reggie Bush who hasn't been nearly that X factor player everyone thought he'd be. I don't mind adding speed to the unit. I mind that, as indicated by the Lombardi tweet, we seem to think we can actually improve the running game with Thomas and Bush sharing the load.

"Conuficus wrote:

If that's not the issue, then stop picking on Bermudians. We're a small, nondescript country

I'm German. I like picking on small, nondescript countries. Preferably with tanks.

"Vendigo wrote:

Why would I? I didn't argue that we'd need a big home run hitter. I think it's a mistake to rely on a rookie and an often hurt Reggie Bush who hasn't been nearly that X factor player everyone thought he'd be. I don't mind adding speed to the unit. I mind that, as indicated by the Lombardi tweet, we seem to think we can actually improve the running game with Thomas and Bush sharing the load.

Touche...

Well I would agree to some point. I just think they really like Thomas. Like really

Just to beat a dead horse this seems like comprehensive list of his TDs

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BushRe00/touchdowns/

I must admit I thought he had more big plays than he has. I guess it's just picture Bush in the open field vs Brown or Bess. I FEEL like Bush has a better chance to take it all the way, but maybe I am wrong.

EDIT: I am still happy to get him if it only costs us a 6th or so.

We're gonna make this Orton deal on our terms. Or we just wait for them to cut him tomorrow.

"Vendigo wrote:

Why would I? I didn't argue that we'd need a big home run hitter. I think it's a mistake to rely on a rookie and an often hurt Reggie Bush who hasn't been nearly that X factor player everyone thought he'd be. I don't mind adding speed to the unit. I mind that, as indicated by the Lombardi tweet, we seem to think we can actually improve the running game with Thomas and Bush sharing the load.

Touche..

Well I would agree to some point. I just think they really like Thomas. Like really

@evansilva New #Dolphins RB Reggie Bush's contract makes him easy to cut next year if he doesn't produce in '11. Fins could clear $3M under 2012 cap.

While Bush is nothing to get overly excited about, he is definitely an upgrade.

"Nappy Roots wrote:

I just think they really like Thomas. Like really

Or they really like Bush. That's what scares me the most, to be honest. Like back when they thought they could turn Pat White into an NFL quarterback when everyone was saying he should move to WR, and with good reason too. That Lombardi tweet worries me, as it makes a lot of sense, too.

Bess had some ninja like movements in the open field last year. The TD during the Steelers game comes to mind.

But on third down it would be nice to have Marshall, Bess, Hartline and Bush going out for a pass.

"the 23rd wrote:

Long-Davis-Pouncey-Inconito-Carey would work

Just don't ever let Pouncey snap the ball in the shotgun formation. Did the Miami coaches watch any of the Gator games last year, where the guy was the reason for multiple turnovers. Pouncey could turn out to be the worst 1st round pick in Dolphins history.

"alen1 wrote:

:lol: Damn you. I love acquiring bush.

Uhhh...... it sounds a little scary when you say it that way, Alen.

"The Buzz Kill wrote:

While Bush is nothing to get overly excited about, he is definitely an upgrade.

We didn't have anybody with the speed to run outside unless you count Sheets or UDFA Grigsby so I agree that he is an upgrade. IMO Bush's impact will be his ability to make defenses cover more of the field rather than his actual production.

"C-HUCKS1 wrote:

Just don't ever let Pouncey snap the ball in the shotgun formation. Did the Miami coaches watch any of the Gator games last year, where the guy was the reason for multiple turnovers. Pouncey could turn out to be the worst 1st round pick in Dolphins history.

"C-HUCKS1 wrote:

Just don't ever let Pouncey snap the ball in the shotgun formation. Did the Miami coaches watch any of the Gator games last year, where the guy was the reason for multiple turnovers. Pouncey could turn out to be the worst 1st round pick in Dolphins history.

That's kind of a myth. When you look at the actual snaps, Mike Pouncey had about as many poor snaps as his brother did the year before (less IIRC). The difference was that Tebow caught them and Brantley couldn't. Maurkice Pouncey was fine in Pitt last year.

"rafael wrote:

We didn't have anybody with the speed to run outside unless you count Sheets or UDFA Grigsby so I agree that he is an upgrade. IMO Bush's impact will be his ability to make defenses cover more of the field rather than his actual production.

Completely agree. I'm just praying they finalize a deal with Orton, good to see them not putting their faith in Henne.

"Samphin wrote:

Green has nothing on Bosa or Kumerow!

"crashingjet wrote:

I have a feeling that we'll use him similar to what Dabool did with Cribbs when he was in Cleveland, and they were productive... Just my guess

That would be a good guess:up:

"The Buzz Kill wrote:

Completely agree. I'm just praying they finalize a deal with Orton, good to see them not putting their faith in Henne.

I don't see Orton as much of an upgrade. I watched him in Chicago and Denver and the difference was the offensive system and play calling. Orton was given easier decisions and easier passes. When he was in Chicago his system looked like Miami's and he looked like Henne. Actually, I thought Henne looked a little better than Chicago Orton. I believe that you put Henne in Denver's system and he would produce as well as Orton did. Conversely, if you put Orton into Miami's offense from last season, he would do no better than Henne did. In the end, I don't see either guy as the answer. The important part is that we don't trade away picks in the first three rounds so that if the opportunity is there we have the ammo to move up for a QB that may be the answer.

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

Green has nothing on Bosa or Kumerow!

Did Green even play a regular season down with us?

Seems like Thomas & Lex will be our pounders with Reggie as COP (and Nic Grigsby & Sheets battling it our for backup COP).

I can totally live with that. Big difference compared to 2010.
Add in Pouncey & a healthy Oline and I'm liking our ground potential.
This should ease our QB's burden a bit.

"Vendigo wrote:

Well, this regime tried to make Pat White into an NFL passer, figures they might also try to make Reggie Bush a feature back.

you don't know that Ven..Its quite ridiculous actually when you just drafted a 230lb talented rookie who led the big 12 in rushing 2 years strait..Hes gonna play his diverse role and return our punts.

"Samphin wrote:

Did Green even play a regular season down with us?

Played in 8 games and even started 1 in 1999.

"rafael wrote:

I don't see Orton as much of an upgrade. I watched him in Chicago and Denver and the difference was the offensive system and play calling. Orton was given easier decisions and easier passes. When he was in Chicago his system looked like Miami's and he looked like Henne. Actually, I thought Henne looked a little better than Chicago Orton. I believe that you put Henne in Denver's system and he would produce as well as Orton did. Conversely, if you put Orton into Miami's offense from last season, he would do no better than Henne did. In the end, I don't see either guy as the answer. The important part is that we don't trade away picks in the first three rounds so that if the opportunity is there we have the ammo to move up for a QB that may be the answer.

You definitely sound like you know your stuff. You think Orton coming to Miami is a definite? I am just now getting back into football, been a long time. I've seen Orton play, but nothing negative or positive sticks out in my memory... I just know our QB situation is horrible.

"djphinfan wrote:

you don't know that Ven..

It's pretty much what Lombardi tweeted. Take it up with him :)