beasley Sounds like we have some big issues. Im sure this happens on other teams, but if it is affecting their performance on the field, something needs to be done
There is NO WAY I would be paying for someone else dinner unless it was my idea and I invited them. Crumbling to peer pressure is for the weak. ESPECIALLY if it turns into a daily thing. AINT NO WAY. I can see paying the tab once, as a gesture. But that's it.
It was rookie night, the tab was tweeted by Odrick. It happens on every team on every year. Now this is much ado about nothing, Beasley is still pissy I guess.
$30k dinner is prick'ish. These guys make millions. Rookies might not last the year. Even if it's Dion Jordan what's the rookie salary scale?
Dolphins Official Statement: "We are not aware of this problem, therefore it does not exist. We support our rookies just as we support our veteran, and remain committed to their development." No speak, No Hear, No See
This type of hazing occurs with most teams and rookies, however it will be brought up as a Miami thing due to the Martin situation. It's already happening, and will only grow for now - the organization needs to be smart about how it is handled.
exactly... at this point with NFLPA operatives combing the team HQ's, the Dolphins should be shredding every piece of paper in the building and destroying all team IPADs.
Since the rookies cant get on the field to earn their pay maybe thats a way to motivate them to earn the veterans respect. Earn your playing time or pay the bills.
Until I hear that this DOESNT happen for most if not all other teams I will not consider this an issue. I get tired of the Miami media looking for every opportunity to bash this franchise.
The only way to get Beasley fired is by banning him from our facilities. If he's banned from entering he's useless to the newspaper he works for.
Keep in mind, vets set it out for rookies too. They put them up in their homes, front them cash, put them on chicks and deals. And this is normal behavior on sports teams, frats, and other organizations. I don't get the shock. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
By the way "Miami lifestyle" is more like professional athlete lifestyle. Players will spend where ever the hell they play for. I'm sick of that reference, makes playing for Miami a bad influence/stay away location.
I keep staring at that twitter pic of the players around the dinner table with food all spread out. I try to put myself in that situation as an NFL player. But it's near impossible. 99.9% of us probably have no idea what it's like to be in that situation. The NFL culture is unlike any other, i would imagine. Money means different things there, especially if you are a rookie earning $ for the first time in your life. You probably don't have a family to support either. I would say it's similar to one of us winning the lottery and not knowing what to do with their money. Except there is fine print in the lottery rules that says you need to put X amount back into the community. The locker room is that community. But people wonder why/how players retire and are broke. I think the NFL has gotten better recently at advising their players about money, but clearly they still have a ways to go.
I've always thought stiffing the rooks with an outrageous tab was a d ick move but its not just this franchise that does it. I was in the Army and there are a lot of "welcome to the unit" type hazing things that go on and I never took part in them but they are out there. Its like when a guy gets promoted the people that outrank him literally punch him in the chest as hard as they can....I never did it or let anyone hit me but it was there and it was just a silly hazing thing that needs to go. A lot of this stuff just needs to go away, its not anything that makes the team better or improves bonding its just people doing something because "its always been done" and it serves no purpose. They've gotten rid of a lot of the hazing in the Army because they found out it does a lot more harm than good. Maybe the NFL should just get rid of it and move on.
Rookies paying for a rookie night dinner has been going on since the dawn of time. This is simply the Miami media morons looking to write more stories about the locker room being divided. This team must have the worst media in the league.
I love the "blame the media" victim mentality that has seized this place. Obviously some players are (rightly) pissed about this or no one would have leaked the info to Beasley. And the fact that "everybody does it" or "it's gone on for years" is the dumbest and most overused excuse for bad behavior ever. If sone of the stuff out there is true, including Martin being pressured to pay 15 grabs for a trip he didn't even go on, that's wrong. And if something is wrong then it's wrong. I don't care that other people do it
I think the bigger issue here is that someone inside the organization is leaking all this out to the media. The media is just reporting it. This organization has someone with loose lips right now though, and you have to wonder if someone is leaking this out because they believe they will get some personal gain from it. The Miami media is tame compared to the New York media.
I think the fact that it's become more of a national story is the real issue. I don't think the Miami media in particular is the problem. Just IMO.
Because? They want to remove any shred of proof so they will need not be accountable? This team needs to start doing things better/right if they ever want to be a deep playoff team imo . Making excuses doesn't do it for me . Hopefully most of the allegations will not be true , however I highly doubt that and if that is the case , the team needs to be accountable.
Maybe something to gain , but perhaps they truly feel this issue and the others are wrong and need to be exposed and addressed. Either way , not reflecting well on the organization , yet again.
I find it hillariously amusing, as if the league is some fantasy land filled with robots and not people who interact with each other. Bears rooks paid 40k for the Vets night out, and yet "wah, they are bullying them!!!!!!!!" Feminization is never pretty to consider.
Does that mean it didn't go to an extreme level? Do we really know. And does the practice of making rookies pay happening across the league make it right? I don't like the attention Miami is getting for this, but does that mean it is a non-issue that doesn't need to be addressed? I don't know. But I am not going to excuse it because it goes on everywhere. It could be excessive in certain places. There are limits to everything.
So eliminating pointless hazing is a feminist move that will continue the pussification of football. Got it.
The league is supposed to be filled with professionals being paid to do a job. I don't see what the issue is telling them that their time to act like frat boys has passed. I'm not sure what's feminine about it. I can't force new people to buy me expensive dinners where I work. You couldn't do that in the military either. As a matter of fact I can't think of anyone anywhere else who could do something like that.
What branch of the service were you in? How many subordinates or lower ranking people did you force to buy you dinner? Just curious since you seem to know more about the military than I do.
