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Vic shouldn’t be let off the hook so easily!

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Dorfdad, Jan 14, 2024.

  1. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    Vic was brought in to be the last piece of the puzzle to turn this team into a perennial Super Bowl contender and while we did have some improvements we also had major setbacks. Injuries aside it was a lot and sometimes you have to adjust to your talent but Vic didn’t seem to do that or build a top defense this year.

    When we started losing talented players we didn’t adjust. We just added the next man up and played man a lot. We decided to play 5-7 yards off receivers which resulted in 5-7 years gains at will. I’m not sure how the talent acquisition works but he should have been fighting for better player up to the trade deadline.

    We have a ton of issues to address but VIC’s defensive play calling cost us at least two games maybe more.

    He needs to really step up his game and get his players or Grier needs to go. He’s constantly brining in project / injury prone players for cheap hoping they become magical. 1-2 is ok but it’s like 90 of his moves are stretches.
     
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  2. cbrad

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    Yeah, defense cost us some games no question. But it was the offense that cost us the division and playoff wins. So yes Vic needs to do better, but the bigger fault lies with McD and Tua in high stakes games.
     
  3. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Hes without phillips, xavien, chubb, avg.. no defense can overcome that many playmakers out
     
  4. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    Hard to blame Vic when Griers pass rush relies on 2 guys with a history of significant injury issues. It’s also hard to not think about what this defense would look like with Parsons, which some of us wanted, instead of a #2 WR who’s can make some nice plays but also goes missing at times.
     
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  5. cbrad

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    They played fantastic against Buffalo, so yes it’s possible. Defense lost us other games though.
     
  6. firedan

    firedan Well-Known Member

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    It was a group effort. In the end there were to many injuries and not so special back up players.
     
  7. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    Once the team figured out the system and playing together, they were really good. Really from the Giants game in Week 5 through the Washington game in Week 13, they were one of the best defenses in the league, despite missing games from some important players through that stretch. It was exactly what we hoped it would be.

    Then important players started dropping like flies, and it was just too much for any team to overcome. All told:

    Jaelan Phillips missed 9 games
    Jalen Ramsey missed 7 games
    Nic Needham missed 7 games and was never the same as before his injury
    Jevon Holland missed 5 games
    Xavien Howard missed 4 games
    Jerome Baker missed 4 games
    And of course Chubb and AVG were hurt at the end

    And that's of course not even talking about the offense, which missed a lot of players as well, and the inability to hold onto the ball put additional pressure on the defense some weeks.
     
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  8. Fishhead

    Fishhead Well-Known Member

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    That’s way too much talent to replace - no roster is that deep.
     
  9. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    We also got jack squat from our top pick, CB Smith. Not injury, but he was expected to regularly contribute.
     
  10. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Well-Known Member

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    The defense was extremely well coached, imo. Fangio had guys dropping like flies all over the place but they still competed and played hard all the way to the end. They had Mahomes running for his life at times on Saturday night.
     
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  11. firedan

    firedan Well-Known Member

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    Considering the injuries and poor play from Howard I thought the Defense played fair.Now if the offense could have showed up after half time it could have been a competitive game.
     
  12. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    I never had any issues what what I perceive to be the fundamental design and gameplan of the defense. Injuries and execution were issues at times, but I don't think it was ever dumb or poorly set up.

    I can't say that about the offense, which I have big questions about.
     
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  13. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    The real question is how much of it was defense vs playing 6 teams that are in the bottom 10 of scoring offense? Then Philly scored 5.5 points above their season average against our defense.
     
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  14. Fishhead

    Fishhead Well-Known Member

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    He was supposed to supplant Howard. Hard to do without playing a down.
     
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  15. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    I could not understand the all out blitz AND letting the receiver run free off the line. Makes no sense to me.
     
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  16. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Don’t get me started on Fangio

    Jmo I don’t think he’s gonna be here long, and thus far not impressive

    Garbage against the chargers, Garbage against the eagles, garbage against the bills, like trash, then historic garbage against the ravens, never seen garbage like that, then some more historic garbage against the titans.

    There’s more garbage, I’m sure he played some ****ty teams pretty good.

    His *** in the booth is on the hot seat
     
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  17. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    His defense only gave up 14 points to the Bills in the final game and talk about injuries! 5 starters on defense out for the game.
     
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  18. Fishhead

    Fishhead Well-Known Member

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    They were so short handed they were signing guys off the street in order to fill out a lineup. Talk about having to make chicken salad out of chicken ****
     
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  19. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Vic is out. Wanted to be closer to home. I could tell his heart wasn't really down in Miami.
     
  20. Fishhead

    Fishhead Well-Known Member

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    He couldn’t have realized that last year? Now it’s back to square one.
     
  21. Fishhead

    Fishhead Well-Known Member

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    Cam Smith is happy, lol
     
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  22. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    The Dolphins and Vic Fangio have mutually agreed to part ways, sources tell @JFowlerESPN. Fangio now will be the top target for the Philadelphia Eagles to hire as their defensive coordinator, and a deal is expected. Miami is allowing Fangio to leave to be closer to his family in Pennsylvania. Fangio and the Eagles had an interest in working together in 2023, but the timing didn’t work. This time it will.
     
  23. pumpdogs

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    He is leaving because he knows he has no Defensive ends next season and his defence will not work without it.
     
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  24. pumpdogs

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    With the exception of Ravens game they were like a top 5 Def and carried the overrated offence.
     
  25. JJ_79

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    Money makes the world go round and like @pumpdogs mentioned our defense is going to have some holes next season (personal wise). No surprise there, was speculated after what he said/acted at the end of the season, nonetheless interesting to what is next, or if Hill takes over…
     
  26. StaleTacos

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    The defense still held their own with many stars missing. Big loss. Jumped a sinking ship.
     
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  27. Fishhead

    Fishhead Well-Known Member

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    Hey pumpdogs, now we have another reason to hate the Eagles, lol!
     
  28. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    He's leaving because his players hated him and he was fired.

    If you have Twitter go and take a look at some of the Dolphins' defenders tweets after he was fired. lol
     
  29. pumpdogs

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    Ok I'll check it out
     
  30. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I’m on the record since camp and all year for saying this was going down, he used us for money..

    Glad he’s gone, but McDaniel fell for his BS
     
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  31. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    You are really not informed nor very intuitive on this guy.

    The players knew he was half assin it.

    Chargers game he was a pathetic, titans loss and raven loss historically inept, Josh Allen had his easiest game of the year with perfect ratings

    Eagle played him like a fiddle
     
  32. TheHighExhaulted

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    The players couldn't be happier.
     
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  33. Fishhead

    Fishhead Well-Known Member

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    Very important hire coming up.
     
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  34. Sceeto

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    Fortunately, lots of good D coaches available for hire.
     
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  35. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Not sure what ur talking about.
    Middle.of season we had a top.5 defence.
    They were better than the overhyped offence even with all the injuries
     
  36. TheHighExhaulted

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    Such hypocrisy. The defense beat a bunch of terrible offenses in that stretch. When Tua was destroying bad defenses it was just a fluke. lol
     
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  37. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    Yeah that's totally what is it. We should all just take your assumption on the matter as correct. Oh but I do need a link where he stated this.
     
  38. JJ_79

    JJ_79 Well-Known Member

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    Cam Smith definitely...
     
  39. OwesOwn614

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