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Vikings take early lead in VYoung sweepstakes?

Discussion in 'Other NFL' started by padre31, Jan 20, 2011.

  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    ymmv.
     
  2. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    you know. thats actually a good team for him to go to. they have adrian peterson so he wont have to be the focus of the offense
     
  3. MarinePhinFan

    MarinePhinFan Banned

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    I agree adam. I think if he does go there he'll do well.
     
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  4. sking29

    sking29 What it takes to be cool

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    I also think that Minny would be good because VY does well with the deep ball and obviously Sidney Rice would be a great WR to do that with. Plus I agree with you Adam that him not being the focus would help him because we saw how well he did down the stretch in 09 with Chris Johnson rolling up 100 yard game after 100 yard game. Plus I think guys like Jared Allen would help keep him from becoming a locker room problem.
     
  5. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well, bigger picture it also would mean one less team drafting a Qb ahead of us in April.
     
  6. MarinePhinFan

    MarinePhinFan Banned

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    Great point! However, I think VY would have done well here too. Do you know what the Titans are asking for him?
     
  7. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    VY is in an odd position, he is due a 4.25 million dollar bonus maybe 3/7, the league season ends 3/4, the Commish has put a ban on player trades until the CBA is ironed out so he more than likely will be released in that 4 day window, he will then become a Street FA and free to sign with whomever he may choose to sign with, unless the Titans pay him that 4.25 millie.
     
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    He played alongside Chris Johnson and still couldn't get it done...

    I think this will only be the case if they have faith in Joe Webb and probably more importantly who is available at their pick. I don't think the Vikes would be stupid enough to solely rely on Young... You have to remember they don't have Childress anymore :lol:
     
  9. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    great news. Vince Young would have tanked this franchise to the absolute bottom for the next couple of years. he needs a system where a good offense is already in place, not one that desperately needs a QB like us.
     
  10. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    I think they have a lot of confidence in Joe Webb. He looked great when he played, and his teamates seemed to like him.
     
  11. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Vikings supposedly want to draft a QB

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/23033/no-secret-vikings-plan-to-draft-a-qb

    I guess it depends on that young guy," Frazier said. "Ideally, you'd like to find the Matt Ryans of the world, the Joe Flaccos of the world and ride with one of those guys. But it doesn't always happen that way. We just kind of have to see where things fall. If we find someone like that, you'd like to build around him. That really gives you a chance for the long term. But as I mentioned it doesn't always happen that way. If we have to go with a veteran guy while we're developing that young guy, I'm not opposed to that either. But ideally, find a young guy, build around him and know you're going to have him for that next nine or 10 years as your starting quarterback. But those guys are sometimes hard to find."

    Said Musgrave: "Ideally, you would like to find a young guy that has a bunch of promise and potential and you would hand him the keys and let him make his mistakes and learn and but also know that he would be there for you in the long term. That's ideal. I believe that will be one of our goals to identify any candidates that can fit that role but at the same time be ready to find some other fellows that may have some experience, that can come in and be effective and also have some upside to them as well."

    I wish Ireland and Sparano were saying the same things...
     
  12. m ino

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    only issue with that is there will still be a team with a need at qb in tennessee whom if lets vy walk would have tom collins(little alchohol joke) and....so i could see tennessee needing to make a play at qb and with a vet already on the roster it may come down to draftng new blood at the position.tennessee not drafting before us doesn't mean they couldn't move up if they have conviction on a particular guy.
     
  13. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

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    Good. Anybody but us, please.
     
  14. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    It's wait and see.
     
  15. padre31

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    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...oach-makes-his-interest-in-vince-young-clear/

    Vikes hired a Qb coach who was tight with Young, seems fairly clear to me that they will make a huge push for him if he is released.

    But, I have seen teams pay bonuses when no one thought they would, Albert Haynesworth comes to mind, so it is entirely possible they pay him, wait out the CBA issues, then trade him for a 2012 high draft pick.
     
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    How so? He didn't have a star RB in the past? What was Chris Johnson? Chopped liver?
     
  17. padre31

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    Hmm, could be smoke as well, VY to me is becoming a bit more attractive as time rolls along.
     
  18. padre31

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    Hmm, they could be just lowering their initial offer, or more likely they really are not interested and the Titans' old Qb Coach is there for Joe Webb.
     
  19. padre31

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    When the head of the NFLPA point blank said VY would claim his helmet radio wasn't working and what was the playcall again? His reputation is what one may call 'tarnished"

    Still and all, same was said about Mike Vick and tbh, VY has been to two pro bowls in the last 5 seasons, the Dolphins have not had a Pro Bowl Qb since...
     
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    Sparano has a way of inspiring players to play at their best effort. I don't doubt that Young can be effective. He doesn't throw too many picks, has a deep ball to keep a defense honest, and his mobility is excellent. He'll get you down the field at least as well as Chad Henne.
     
  21. padre31

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    VY is such a headcase that to me, Sparano would know from the first meeting whether or not he can work with VY, he would also probably could be the #2 Qb as I doubt anyone is just going to hand him their Starting Qb gig right off the bat.
     
  22. padre31

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    Hmm:

    "You cannot wake someone up who is pretending to be asleep"
     
  23. padre31

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    Well, one way or another VY is d-o-n-e in TN.
     
  24. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    Vince doesnt belong in the NFL as anything other than a backup. I'd take Henne over him any day. I think Vick is a better option for the Vikings than Young. With all the weapons the Vikes have, Vick wouldn't miss a beat moving from Philly to Minny. Rice, Harvin, Peterson, and Shancaoe (sp?) would be plenty to get er dun.
     
  25. X-Pacolypse

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    Good. I hope Minnesota takes him, because I don't want that nutcase in Miami.
     
  26. padre31

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    I doubt anyone will pony up 13 million for Young's services in 2011, which means he will go unclaimed and become a FA.
     
  27. padre31

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    Interesting factoid about Young, his 4.25 million dollar roster bonus is NOT due on a fixed date, say 3/4/11 it is due 10 days into a new NFL year, meaning 10 days AFTER a CBA is signed.

    Per Schefter on Sunday Countdown.
     
  28. padre31

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    Makes more sense, why release him when you can hold onto him for "free" and it costs nothing to do so.

    To me, with that contract he would be worth maybe a 4th rd pick, and he would have to take a paycut as 12 millie for a pine rider/camp competition makes little sense in a Salary Cap environment.
     

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