Long time lurker, first time poster.
And what inspired me to do so was the following debate. The Herald got the ball rolling with this article: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/story/893530.html
One of the things discussed was Vonnie Holliday's future in Miami. He has 2 years left on his deal but has a high cap number. In doing research trying to learn the ins and outs of his deal, I came across this: http://www.thephinsider.com/2009/2/10/754214/more-on-the-vonnie-hollida
That second link does a good job of breaking down Vonnie's contract. And the bottom line is that keeping Vonnie on the roster is costing Miami $3.25 million in cap room in '09.
My question: is he worth it?
I'm on the fence. On one hand, he's a solid player and great leader (a team captain, even). But that's pricey for a mid 30s player.
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We need to keep him. He was very, very good last year and like you said is a very good leader to the team. He has a special role in the locker room and you can't replace someones presence that easily...
He will also play a vital role in helping our young D-Lineman develop. 3.25 Million is not that much against our cap either.dolphindebby, HULKFish, GridIronKing34 and 1 other person like this. -
We have a ton of cap room and VH is still playing well.
If we were over the cap or near it then i could see this conversation having more merit.
That and a'long with VH being such a good guy to have around the younger guys i could see no way he's not back here next year. -
If we let Holliday go then we're going to be dangerously thin at DE. I would hope we keep the guy around at least one more year.
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i dont think we'd be dangerously thin if we got rid of him... we have merling, langford (who both showed great things as rookies and look to only improve), starks, wright... plus whoever we can pickup in FA/Draft
i personally dont want to get rid of him, hes a great veteran presence, and im sure would have no problem being a situational player if these younger guys are playing better than he is... -
The new coaching staff appears not to be too fond of Rodrique Wright though, there is probably a good chance they'll find a developmental guy to be the #4 or #5 DE.djphinfan likes this. -
If we cut Wilford...it cost us 6 million this season.
That would mean VH is a 9.25 million dollar player by your thoughts... ;)
I don't see VH sticking around this season. Miami will want to use his money on another position maybe...LB, CB, S, DT... who knows.
But I think we are going to lose a captain...sucks, but it is business. -
no way old school is going anywhere. i mentioned this in an earlier thread but i'll mention it again...every game you can see him and coach chatting, high fiving, etc on the side lines. i think he would even negotiate to stay if it became an obligation. he's an intricate part to the team and no way is he going anywhere. IMO of course :lol:
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Amanda should work for ESPN -
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ok were going to amanda in davie on the dolphins situation:
"well clearly the dolphins are going to resign vernon carey i saw him make a peanut butter and jelly sandwhich for coach soparno for lunch today."
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Wright's JAG, he'll probably be replaced by someone like Stephen Bowen. -
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I think you can move forward and sign Chris Canty and trade Vonnie for a 4th or 5th