Vontae out a while.

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jsizzlejsizzleNew MemberOP
Oct 30, 2012, 12:58 PM

What a great trade by Ireland! This dude is a BUM. We anally violated the Colts. Mark my words, this guy is out of football in the next 2-3 years. His heart isn't in it.

Colts CB Vontae Davis (knee) confirmed he's going to be out "a while."

Davis is calling his left knee sprain a "freak thing" and he's limping around with a brace. Look for Cassius Vaughn to play right corner and Josh Gordy to slide in as the nickelback against the Dolphins in Week 9.

BpkBpkluxury_box
Oct 30, 2012, 01:09 PM

1) I don;t see how an injury is proof someone's heart isn't in it, much less that they are a bum.

2) Can we post this stuff in the forum about non-Dolphins players? It's just not relevant at this point, imo, despite it being a trade Ireland made.

(I do agree that I'm not a big Vontae fan anymore though)

GARDENHEADGARDENHEADsubscriber
Oct 30, 2012, 01:12 PM

While I was quite a vocal proponent of the Vontae trade, and was the author of the hated "Nobody Missed Vontae Today" thread, to claim that the trade was good because the guy got injured is stupid.

Tanking is like taking a Greyhound bus cross-country. Sure, it may eventually get you where you want to go, but it’s messy and unpleasant and uncomfortable, it stinks, the entire time you’ll be wishing you weren’t there, and not everybody along for the ride is going to make it to the end. - Quote stolen from Deadspin

MikeHonchoMikeHonchosubscriber
Oct 30, 2012, 01:24 PM

Damn that sucks for VD. THAT SAID, was his grandmother notified?

Headcoach material wouldn’t want to work somewhere they’re not trusted with actual football decisions.

MrCleanMrCleansubscriber
Oct 30, 2012, 01:28 PM

"Bpk wrote:

1) I don;t see how an injury is proof someone's heart isn't in it, much less that they are a bum.

Exactly! I guess Richard Marshall is a bum too, by using the very questionable logic in the OP.

“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”

― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice

vizi0nvizi0nsubscriber
Oct 30, 2012, 01:28 PM

We should be able to take advantage of this beaten up secondary then no?

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JWjw3102forum_veteran
Oct 30, 2012, 01:32 PM

"jsizzle wrote:

What a great trade by Ireland! This dude is a BUM. We anally violated the Colts. Mark my words, this guy is out of football in the next 2-3 years. His heart isn't in it.

Colts CB Vontae Davis (knee) confirmed he's going to be out "a while."

Davis is calling his left knee sprain a "freak thing" and he's limping around with a brace. Look for Cassius Vaughn to play right corner and Josh Gordy to slide in as the nickelback against the Dolphins in Week 9.

Does this mean that Tannehill is going to be out of the league in 2-3 years because he was injured and missed most of the game against the Jets. Marshall has missed the past three games with a bad back. I guess he just doesn't have any heart for the game.

Injuries happen and players miss games. It happens on every team and it doesn't mean these players don't have the heart for the game. Davis is no longer a member of the Dolphins. He now plays for the Colts. Why you are even concerned with how long he will play in the NFL is beyond me. I just wonder if you were saying this same thing about him when he was the Dolphins first round draft pick a few years ago.

PhinsRDbestPhinsRDbestforum_veteran
Oct 30, 2012, 01:32 PM

Great of Ireland to get something out of nothing***

***

Oh wait, his former 1st round pick

HardKoreXXXHardKoreXXXNew Member
Oct 30, 2012, 01:33 PM

There are times where trades are good for the player, change of scenery, fresh start, etc. This was not one of those trades for Vontae.

@BaseyCrock

"Making people on the Internet feel better about their own lives since 2004"

BpkBpkluxury_box
Oct 30, 2012, 01:35 PM

"Bpk wrote:

1) I don;t see how an injury is proof someone's heart isn't in it, much less that they are a bum.

2) Can we post this stuff in the forum about non-Dolphins players? It's just not relevant at this point, imo, despite it being a trade Ireland made.

(I do agree that I'm not a big Vontae fan anymore though)

I take back #2... forgot we are playing the Colts next. :)

padre31padre31luxury_box
Oct 30, 2012, 01:35 PM

Start Hartline in your fantasy league.

Heard even Robert Mathis is out for Indy+MMoore likely to start=long passes to Bline

HardKoreXXXHardKoreXXXNew Member
Oct 30, 2012, 01:37 PM

"padre31 wrote:

Start Hartline in your fantasy league.

Heard even Robert Mathis is out for Indy+MMoore likely to start=long passes to Bline

I expect Gaffney to have a big day.

@BaseyCrock

"Making people on the Internet feel better about their own lives since 2004"

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Oct 30, 2012, 01:41 PM

"HardKoreXXX wrote:

There are times where trades are good for the player, change of scenery, fresh start, etc. This was not one of those trades for Vontae.

That is true, he didn't recognize how good he had it, and he didn't respect how lucky he was when he was born.jmo.

I think he has a good heart, so I'd like to see him dedicate himself to his craft, finish out his contract there in Indy, and come back to play for us with welcome arms..

Lb for lb, he's one if the most explosive players in the league.

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Oct 30, 2012, 01:44 PM

"Bpk wrote:

I take back #2... forgot we are playing the Colts next. :)

Nice giving the guy a hard time buddy..

SICKSICKforum_veteran
Oct 30, 2012, 01:45 PM

Mark my words, this guy is out of football in the next 2-3 years.

Ridiculous statement. Wanna bet?

xphinfanxxphinfanxforum_veteran
Oct 30, 2012, 02:12 PM

"padre31 wrote:

Start Hartline in your fantasy league.

Heard even Robert Mathis is out for Indy+MMoore likely to start=long passes to Bline

This^
Pads is right on the money!

That's why they play the games!:yes:

jsizzlejsizzleNew Member
Oct 30, 2012, 02:18 PM

"SICK wrote:

Ridiculous statement. Wanna bet?

He isn't showing me he has any heart. He is clearly in it for the paycheck. Guys like that don't last.

I have money. Do you?

Starry31Starry31forum_veteran
Oct 30, 2012, 02:29 PM

Oh wait, his former 1st round pick

shhh We don't talk about turning a 1st into a 2nd, and two 2nds into two 3rds around here.

Fin DFin Dforum_veteran
Oct 30, 2012, 02:38 PM

"Starry31 wrote:

shhh We don't talk about turning a 1st into a 2nd, and two 2nds into two 3rds around here.

No we can talk about it.

As long as you're open to the idea that all GMs make mistakes every off season. Not many recoup some value out of them as well as Ireland did on Marshall & Davis.

SICKSICKforum_veteran
Oct 30, 2012, 02:39 PM

"jsizzle wrote:

He isn't showing me he has any heart. He is clearly in it for the paycheck. Guys like that don't last.

I have money. Do you?

We all have money. Guys like him, with some sort of reputation also always gets the benefit of the doubt. He was just traded for a 2nd round pick. Someone in the league would keep giving him chances, and the Colts won't be cutting him anytime soon after giving up so much for him. You really think he will be 27 and out of the league? I'd bet anything on that.

Nappy RootsNappy Rootsforum_veteran
Oct 30, 2012, 02:47 PM

"padre31 wrote:

Start Hartline in your fantasy league.

Heard even Robert Mathis is out for Indy+MMoore likely to start=long passes to Bline

What did I miss? Tannehill is out?

Nappy RootsNappy Rootsforum_veteran
Oct 30, 2012, 02:52 PM

"Nappy Roots wrote:

What did I miss? Tannehill is out?

Never mind. Seen the discomfort he's having.

Deus ex dolphinDeus ex dolphinforum_veteran
Oct 30, 2012, 04:34 PM

Sounds like we are playing the Colts at the right time, for us. I hope Tanny is healthy enough to play, the contest between Luck and Tannehill might get this game a lot more coverage across the country.

A terrible play call, terribly executed.

MrCleanMrCleansubscriber
Oct 30, 2012, 04:48 PM

"jsizzle wrote:

He isn't showing me he has any heart. He is clearly in it for the paycheck. Guys like that don't last.

I have money. Do you?

So by your faulty logic, if a player has enough heart he can play through any knee injury. Ever injure your knee? How'd the heart thing work in your case? Do you even know the severity of his knee injury? It's pretty easy for some dude sitting at a desk far across the country to pass judgement on someone else's knee injury, what with all the first hand medical reports of Davis that ya have access to.

Why aren't ya ragging on Marshall about his back injury? They are usually much harder to prove than a knee injury is.

“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”

― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice

GARDENHEADGARDENHEADsubscriber
Oct 30, 2012, 04:53 PM

"djphinfan wrote:

That is true, he didn't recognize how good he had it, and he didn't respect how lucky he was when he was born.jmo.

I think he has a good heart, so I'd like to see him dedicate himself to his craft, finish out his contract there in Indy, and come back to play for us with welcome arms..

Lb for lb, he's one if the most explosive players in the league.

That is absurd.

Tanking is like taking a Greyhound bus cross-country. Sure, it may eventually get you where you want to go, but it’s messy and unpleasant and uncomfortable, it stinks, the entire time you’ll be wishing you weren’t there, and not everybody along for the ride is going to make it to the end. - Quote stolen from Deadspin