Warren Sharp… “Tua and Tyreek”
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A lot of people questioned if Tyreek Hill would work in Miami because of concerns with Tua's deep accuracy but in his first year in Miami, on passes thrown 15+ yards, Tyreek posted: career-best catch rate career-high receptions career-high success rate that should have quieted the critics but it did not so then last year, Tyreek bested all of his career-highs on deep receptions YET AGAIN! career-best catch rate career-high receptions career-high success rate back-to-back seasons with superior results than in any season in KC and massive improvements in 2023 in fact, last year on targets 15+ yards downfield, Hill ranked:
#1 in catch rate (69%)
#1 in receptions (43)
#1 in receiving yards (1,209)
How does his 69% catch rate stack historically? Of 309 players 35+ targets of 15+ yards downfield since 2010, Hill's 69% catch rate in 2023 season with Tua ranks:
#1
#1 of 309
the #1 best deep completion accuracy we've seen in the modern NFL
Tua & Tyreek
Obviously Tua plays no part in this. Lmao
I’m sure this post will get no replies.
SilverphinForum VeteranFact of the matter is, when people don't like you, there's always going to be a shift in the narrative, a moving of the goalposts, if you will.
When news of Tyreek being traded to Miami broke, people were talking about how it was a stupid trade because Tua doesn't have the arm the offense would need to take advantage of Tyreek's skills (especially his skills as a deep threat). Two years later, it's about Tyreek carrying Tua.
I admit to being skeptical of the Tyreek trade. That was based more on questioning if Tyreek would continue to play at a high level or coast by once he got paid. I had no doubts that Tua would be able to take advantage of his skills, although I was expecting more of Tua hitting him in stride on a 5 yard slant and Tyreek taking it to the house not the second coming of Daryl Lamonica.
djphinfanSupporterThe elite traits that we’ve talked about him having since the beginning are shining through in these stats.
The most innately accurate Qb in the game
Easily the best anticipatory thrower in the game.
Easily the fastest operational Qb in the game.
McDaniel had built an offense around these three traits.
Now Dano we need to figure out how we can operate this sophisticated offense when the communication breaks down or literally is difficult to hear.
We need to figure if there are imbalances in the offense that is derailing it when it comes to sustaining drives and scoring points.
All of this points to this, “if you protect him he will shred”
I understand bpa but, upgrades on the Oline can have serious positive trickle down affects on the run game and pass game.
"djphinfan wrote:
The elite traits that we’ve talked about him having since the beginning are shining through in these stats.
The most innately accurate Qb in the game
Easily the best anticipatory thrower in the game.
Easily the fastest operational Qb in the game.
McDaniel had built an offense around these three traits.
Now Dano we need to figure out how we can operate this sophisticated offense when the communication breaks down or literally is difficult to hear.
We need to figure if there are imbalances in the offense that is derailing it when it comes to sustaining drives and scoring points.
All of this points to this, “if you protect him he will shred”
I understand bpa but, upgrades on the Oline can have serious positive trickle down affects on the run game and pass game.
Couldn’t agree more. It would have been nice to be able to depend on the oline to hold up under more conventional plays last season when the communication was off, Tua was off, Tyreek/Waddle were hurt, etc. I’m with you on wanting our first pick to be an olineman…. As long as it’s not a reach where that same guy could be had with our 55 for example.
My ideal draft would be us trading back a few spots, picking up a late second or early 3rd, grabbing Barton with the 1st round pick (I’m just afraid he may be gone before 21 though) and then BPA at edge, DT, or DB with #55, then doing the same thing with that extra pick.
djphinfanSupporter"danmarino wrote:
Couldn’t agree more. It would have been nice to be able to depend on the oline to hold up under more conventional plays last season when the communication was off, Tua was off, Tyreek/Waddle were hurt, etc. I’m with you on wanting our first pick to be an olineman…. As long as it’s not a reach where that same guy could be had with our 55 for example.
My ideal draft would be us trading back a few spots, picking up a late second or early 3rd, grabbing Barton with the 1st round pick (I’m just afraid he may be gone before 21 though) and then BPA at edge, DT, or DB with #55, then doing the same thing with that extra pick.
Fautanu and Haynes would be the ultimate
Barton and Haynes would be awesome
"danmarino wrote:
Couldn’t agree more. It would have been nice to be able to depend on the oline to hold up under more conventional plays last season when the communication was off, Tua was off, Tyreek/Waddle were hurt, etc. I’m with you on wanting our first pick to be an olineman…. As long as it’s not a reach where that same guy could be had with our 55 for example.
My ideal draft would be us trading back a few spots, picking up a late second or early 3rd, grabbing Barton with the 1st round pick (I’m just afraid he may be gone before 21 though) and then BPA at edge, DT, or DB with #55, then doing the same thing with that extra pick.
Barton feels like the player I start dreaming for us to pick only for him to go one spot before we pick.
djphinfanSupporter"Wilkimania wrote:
Barton feels like the player I start dreaming for us to pick only for him to go one spot before we pick.
He’s such a fighter that guy, imo he’s an all pro future guard masking as a tackle but man he will fight you tooth and nail to get the job done, held his own against FSU and Jared Verse
"djphinfan wrote:
He’s such a fighter that guy, imo he’s an all pro future guard masking as a tackle but man he will fight you tooth and nail to get the job done, held his own against FSU and Jared Verse
Couldn't agree more. Think I'd at least let him fight for a tackle slot because I know he'd at least keep things interesting but his future is inside.
OwesOwn614Forum VeteranClick the tweet below for more info:
"OwesOwn614 wrote:Click the tweet below for more info:
This is the tweet I copied and pasted above. I gave Sharp credit, but didn’t post the X link because I know some people don’t like to visit X.
OwesOwn614Forum Veteran"danmarino wrote:
This is the tweet I copied and pasted above. I gave Sharp credit, but didn’t post the X link because I know some people don’t like to visit X.
Stupid me. I thought you posted some of it but, in hindsight, I see that you did post all of it. Sorry about that.
"OwesOwn614 wrote:
Stupid me. I thought you posted some of it but, in hindsight, I see that you did post all of it. Sorry about that.
No worries… I typically just post the X link because copying the content doesn’t look very good.
OwesOwn614Forum Veteran"danmarino wrote:
No worries… I typically just post the X link because copying the content doesn’t look very good.
Copy & paste the information in the browser address bar. When they changed the name, it gummed up a lot of message boards but fortunately, the address bar still works. It still has "twitter" in it and it allows you to paste the tweet here instead of just the link. Or you can replace "x" in the pasted link with "twitter" and it does the same thing.
"OwesOwn614 wrote:
Copy & paste the information in the browser address bar. When they changed the name, it gummed up a lot of message boards but fortunately, the address bar still works. It still has "twitter" in it and it allows you to paste the tweet here instead of just the link. Or you can replace "x" in the pasted link with "twitter" and it does the same thing.
They’ve actually fixed the issue where all you have to do is post the link and it embeds on this forum now.
What I’m talking about is someone using an excuse for not clicking the embedded post in order to claim they didn’t read it.
IOW, some here have claimed in the past that they didn’t see a post because they didn’t want to click the link or embedded tweet. (Typically it’s because the info contradicted their opinions.) I was trying to not have to spell that out because inevitably someone is going to say I’m being mean to them. Lol
The_Dark_KnightForum Veteran"djphinfan wrote:
The elite traits that we’ve talked about him having since the beginning are shining through in these stats.
The most innately accurate Qb in the game
Easily the best anticipatory thrower in the game.
Easily the fastest operational Qb in the game.
McDaniel had built an offense around these three traits.
Now Dano we need to figure out how we can operate this sophisticated offense when the communication breaks down or literally is difficult to hear.
We need to figure if there are imbalances in the offense that is derailing it when it comes to sustaining drives and scoring points.
All of this points to this, “if you protect him he will shred”
I understand bpa but, upgrades on the Oline can have serious positive trickle down affects on the run game and pass game.
“If you protect him, he will shred”
LOVE IT!!!!
I couldn’t agree with you more about the affects of a good OL will have on not only the passing game, but the running game as well. Imagine an OL that can push the LOS 5 yards downfield before the RB even has the ball in his hands. That’s why Riggins was so phenomenal with the “Hogs” blocking for him. Would love to have the confidence to know we could hand the ball off on 3rd and 3 and be guaranteed of moving the sticks…and chewing up the clock.
“The person you will spend the most time with in your life is yourself, so you better make sure you’re someone interesting”
AquaprideForum Veteran"djphinfan wrote:
Now Dano we need to figure out how we can operate this sophisticated offense when the communication breaks down or literally is difficult to hear.
We need to figure if there are imbalances in the offense that is derailing it when it comes to sustaining drives and scoring points.
All of this points to this, “if you protect him he will shred”
I understand bpa but, upgrades on the Oline can have serious positive trickle down affects on the run game and pass game.
A more mobile QB would help the cause.
TheHighExhaultedForum Veteran"Aquapride wrote:
A more mobile QB would help the cause.
Jameis Winston?
The_Dark_KnightForum Veteran"Aquapride wrote:
A more mobile QB would help the cause.
Kyler Murray?
“The person you will spend the most time with in your life is yourself, so you better make sure you’re someone interesting”
OwesOwn614Forum Veteran"Aquapride wrote:
A more mobile QB would help the cause.
Ryan Tannehill?
djphinfanSupporter"Aquapride wrote:
A more mobile QB would help the cause.
With that you aren’t getting the elite pocket play that Tua provides.
Perhaps Tua has been fat shamed enough to show the world he can make some plays.
TheHighExhaultedForum VeteranSpeaking of Tyreek, he was called out by McDaniel during the playoff game for getting manhandled by Snead all game.
"TheHighExhaulted wrote:Speaking of Tyreek, he was called out by McDaniel during the playoff game for getting manhandled by Snead all game.
No way. I’ve heard that McDaniels does nothing but cater to his players because he’s soft?