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We Hired........

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Harleydude666, Sep 25, 2016.

  1. Harleydude666

    Harleydude666 Active Member

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    The wrong coach. It's so clear that we should've hired Hue Jackson. The guy knows how to call an offense
     
  2. DolphinGreg

    DolphinGreg Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Hue Jackson is a great coach. No one ever suspected otherwise.

    I think Gase and Joseph are more than qualified coordinators. Joseph needs DBs and rushers. We need a lot of help in that area.

    Gase just needs a QB that can read the defense and make throws. The assumption was we had that. Maybe we don't? :(
     
  3. Harleydude666

    Harleydude666 Active Member

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    Gotta admit, I am finally coming to that opinion also. Not too sure about Thill anymore, I was a big believer because everyone sucked around him for four years but now he has no excuse. Granted he doesn't have a running game but that's where Gase fails us, line up four WRs and just air the **** out of it win or lose. At least we go down fighting using our best strength
     
  4. DolphinGreg

    DolphinGreg Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Tannehill needs to get the ball out faster. He's got a great arm but he's just not ripping it the way NFL QB's have to. If he doesn't get better this year, it's probably over for him sad to say. He's got to fix this because it's a big part of why the offense stagnates.
     
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  5. Harleydude666

    Harleydude666 Active Member

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    Nevertheless, Vance is not a good DC, a modiocre DC can do a better job with this group. We don't have good personnel but still you have to be able to stop the Brown offense using their WR as a QB
    We're gonna be screwed for a couple of years before Gase realizes his mistake and fires Vance and then we're gonna have to start all over again. Ugh
    And to be honest, Gase is not a good OC. He's shown that much
     
  6. DolphinGreg

    DolphinGreg Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I understand the criticism but I gotta give the coaches a few games to install their schemes and figure out the players' capabilities.

    The inconsistency of the team is pretty typical of a new staff. I just wish I was seeing more from the individual players themselves. There hasn't been a lot of play-making outside of Landry, Jones and Parker.
     
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  7. DolphinGreg

    DolphinGreg Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'm sitting here watching a listless Adam Gase on the sidelines as the Browns drive with 2 minutes to go. I think we can now see the position Philbin was in. Gotta feel like Gase expected more outta this roster. Multiple 3-and-outs in the 4th quarter back to back. Really quite pathetic.
     
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  8. roy_miami

    roy_miami Well-Known Member

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    A lot speculated otherwise. Who knows how it'll work out in Cleveland but the fact that Marvin Lewis was willing to retire and hand the head coaching job to Jackson if he would have just stayed on one more year speaks volumes.
     
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  9. Colmax

    Colmax Well-Known Member

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    I disagree with the playmaking comment. Consistency? Sure. But just about everyone on defense has made some plays here and there, including "The Hammer" Misi. Haha

    All joking aside. We have seen the D-line absolutely stymie Wilson for most of the game in a very rowdy stadium all the way across the country. We have seen our rookie CB make some solid plays. Kiko (when not being overly aggressive and taking himself out of plays entirely) has made some big plays. I thought Maxwell finally showed up today in the second half, and made a couple of critical plays against a bigger receiver. Quddus has had a couple. McCain. The defense has had some really nice plays. They just don't have it quite together yet. I'm okay with that. I just hate that they allow these 3rd and longs or give up first downs with dumb penalties. They shoot themselves in the foot at times. So they need some work.

    Offensively, the running game needs to really come together, and soon. Or else Tannehill is gonna end up with 5000 yards passing, and not in a good way. I hate to see him struggle right now, and he really needs to keep his head on a swivel. Watching his passing motion versus other QBs, I feel like his release is a little on the slower side, which doesn't help him when there's pressure. I really really like Tanny, but I fear he's going to turn into another Alex Smith. We'll see. When a few different coordinators cannot get the guy to make that turn, what's the damned common denominator? I have this suspicion it may just be Tannehill. I'm going to give him this year, but I hope by mid-season, we see a different QB out there.

    On the coaching end, totally agree. They are getting a feel, so we should give them time. They do seem slow on in-game adjustments, but they're green. I am also a little wary of Gase calling all of the plays. I think it takes away from his 'feeling the game' in it's entirety. When your D is out there, and you're sitting with your QB, I think it takes away from him being a "head coach" a bit.
     
  10. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well away from here
    And this is after we win.
     
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  11. Colmax

    Colmax Well-Known Member

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    Scout's honor: as I was writing my novella, I had the exact same thought.
     
  12. Phins_Fan_87

    Phins_Fan_87 Phins and Heat fan Club Member

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    hue jackson with one of the all time worst coaching decisions ever to not receive after winning ot coin toss
     
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  13. roy_miami

    roy_miami Well-Known Member

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    Yeah he probably learned that move from the bum known as BB up in New England....


    Its not as cut and dry as it seems under the new rules. If the team that gets the ball first scores a field goal then the other team knows they have 4 downs to work with to tie (or win). That can be an advantage.
     
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  14. dirtylandry

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    not being able to run the ball handicaps any head coach.
     
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  15. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Amazes me how everyone is getting so wrapped around the axle with a 38 year old first year head coach after the 3rd game of the season.

    Wait...isn't this the guy that everyone was singing praises of in the offseason?

    Patience everyone...Not even a proven coach like Shula took the Dolphins to the promised land his first year in Miami
     
  16. Redwine4all

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    Not really....the way our offense was playing it was a good call. Get a three and out, maybe a turnover. His opinion was clearly that his defense/our offense was a better combo for him that our defense/his offense. Can't say I disagree.
     
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  17. Redwine4all

    Redwine4all Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I think we have to give Gase time...not a game, or two or three....but a season or two or three. We have to get some stability at HC. Now, QB...that is a different tune. I dont think its one bit unfair or rash to make harsh criticisms of Tannehill and that he should be replaced. But, right now, he's 1-2. We have a game Thursday night. Right now the water is warm...if we lose again, and he plays poorly again (esp in the 4th qtr), the water is going to get extremely HOT.
     
  18. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    And you have determined all of this after three games into a brand new season? This is incredible!
     
  19. Dorfdad

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    What irritates me to no end is that we constantly throw short on 3rd downs. 3 and 7 and we will always toss a 4 yarder and fall 2 yards later. If I had one thing I could fix instantly on this team magically it would be that on third downs receives actually run to or past the sticks!!!
     
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  20. dolphin25

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    Why? It would have worked out for him IF the FG kicker doesn't miss.
     
  21. dolphin25

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    What bugs me is we were supposed to have press corners, but instead they are letting the receivers of the line running free. Can't say how many times I saw Maxwell miss on receivers yesterday.
     
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  22. number21

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    People are already done with Gase after three games with a team most fans would agree we wouldn't make the playoffs? Hilarious.
     
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  23. roy_miami

    roy_miami Well-Known Member

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    I'm not done with him but to be fair the rookie head coach in Gase and his choice of rolling with Tannehill and Moore might have been a part of the equation for fans saying this isn't a playoff team.
     
  24. Dorfdad

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    I get the unrest. We have been constantly told the problems are this or that, and we have replaced a **** load of coaches. Each time we do were told we got the right guy for the job. Were not ready to be patient anymore. They have lost the ability to ask us to be patient since they constantly ask this and nothing has improved year after year. The fans are not going to wait for Gase to figure it out. They want Immediate results. Happens all over the NFL each year but never in Miami.
     
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  25. RevRick

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    Not to mention quarterbacks!
     
  26. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    Are we sure RT17 trusts his receivers enough to throw it at a S, trusting his receiver reads the same coverage? I believe most of these routes have 4 possible decisions - Break left, sit, break right or go, based on the leverage of the defenders. I don't care what anyone says, that's gonna take while to develop.
     
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  27. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    Much like the Gus Malzhen crowd...

    :escape2:
     
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  28. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Yep. I think the trust issues are huge. He doesn't trust his oline. Can you blame him? He trusts certain receivers, Landry and Parker. Which others have given him reason to trust? I can't imagine he trusted Philbin and Lazor. Can you blame him? He certainly seems to have trust in Gase.
     
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  29. Bpk

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    Who would you like as DC and OC, given our roster? (Meaning, schemes that would let us use our current players.)
     
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  30. danmarino

    danmarino Let's go Brandon Club Member

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    Gase will be fine.

    If the running game and run defense get their crap together we will win 10 games. I'm serious. Those two things are the only things holding us back. The O-Line is a problem too, but not as much as those things I mentioned.
     
  31. Rickysabeast

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    Isn't it a little early for this stuff? I think we should have smoked the Browns but give it a little time for gods sake.
     
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  32. Superself

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    Lol at fans saying Gase should be fired already. Like he was brought in as a free agent consultant to get Miami turned around in his first year. Smh.


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  33. Brasfin

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    Don't want to sound pessimistic but on basic level those two things are essentially a third of what you do in football. Passing, pass defense and special teams being the other 2/3.

    It's not that simple, IMO.
     

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