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Week 2 - Miami @ Jacksonville

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by PhinFan1968, Sep 17, 2015.

  1. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    At this stage of his career, because of age and his declining ability, along with nagging injuries, the Dolphins would be lucky if another team offered them more than a 5th or 6th round pick for him.

    Of course since it appears this team isn't going anywhere this year except higher up the draft board, I wouldn't be opposed to trading Wake for a late round pick.
     
  2. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    You are 100% correct.
     
  3. Bpk

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    Id hate to be FinD when you get ahold of him tonight.
     
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  4. Phins Up Wins Up

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    This team needs a lot of things. Offensive line is the top need.
     
  5. Serpico Jones

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    When does the Heat season start?
     
  6. Phins Up Wins Up

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    I'm not expecting anything back for him. I just want to see him end his career well. Not on this crap team and horrid coaching staff.
     
  7. Kud_II

    Kud_II Realist Division Club Member

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    Miami has the Lolphins... a mediocre team
    We take the ball to 3 and outs like no one's even seen.
    We're in reverse, fans on the edge, our owner's lost control.
    And when you say Miami, you're talking Loser Bowl.
     
  8. NCPhinFan

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    I said at the start of the game that it is so stupid for us to defer to the second half and let the other team get the ball first to establish tempo and momentum. This has happened twice now and it has been one of the causes of us getting off to a slow start. Great job today by Tannehill, Landry, and Matthews and this loss isn't on them. It is on poor coaching, a poor running game, an overrated defense, and an undisciplined football team...
     
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  9. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    Pretty much what I saw...yep. How many holding calls did friggin James get? 2? 3? Drive killing crap right there.

    13 penalties is inexcusable...period. Most of which were VERY inopportune.
     
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  10. Mcduffie81

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    We lost to a near talentless team that played like it had nothing to lose.
     
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  11. Fin D

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    That kinda sounded like you think I'm gonna play hard to get....which proves you don't know me at all.......
     
  12. Phins_Fan_87

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    This team is far from elite.
     
  13. Undisputed

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    That's a good name for a band. "South of Elite"


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  14. Stitches

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    Three 3 & outs is hardly more than anyone has ever seen.
     
  15. cdnfinfan

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    I really hate this thinking.
    we are talking about professional teams. Players, coaches, etc. Talentless?
    bortles is a young competent qb that sometimes reminds me of Big Ben. They have some receivers and if our o line was half as good as theirs we'd be in the playoffs the last few years.
    plus their d line is really good..as we saw last year as well

    we need to stop thinking that NFL teams are loaded with talentless players that will lie done because the media doesn't rate them highly.

    jacksonville coaching>>>>>miamis
     
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  16. Phins_Fan_87

    Phins_Fan_87 Phins and Heat fan Club Member

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    why draft parker if your qb never has time to throw the ball? should have addressed the oline, tanny with 5+ seconds to throw can make any avg wr look good.
     
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  17. Phins Up Wins Up

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    I disagree. You don't have to get the ball first to set the tempo. This supposedly great defense and defensive line should be setting the tempo to start the game. Start the game with great field position after a take away or 3 and out but the defense stinks.
     
  18. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    Odrick certainly got the last laugh today, meanwhile Suh was completely stonewalled all day. Vernon is playing his way out of a contract and our depth behind them haven't shown much either. Maybe it's the wrong pairings? Who is the best fit next to Suh?
     
  19. djphinfan

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    id go with phillips, and bring francis up from the practice squad.
     
  20. Stitches

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    Francis isn't on the practice squad.
     
  21. djphinfan

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    activate instead of inactive..
     
  22. Boik14

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    Agreed. The lack of innovation is scary. Why the hell did we give a 3rd round pick for Kenny Stills if hes going to sit on the pine? Hes not even being used to stretch the field vertically! We'd rather use old *** Greg Jennings then put some thoroughbreds on the field and try and take the top off a defense.

    Its not the pairings, its the scheme and DC. Coyle is a bloody joke of a DC. Hes clearly overmatched there and has been for 3 years. Nothings changed. We could have God playing on the DL and it wouldnt matter with this clown. Hes a position coach and nothing more. Mitchell isnt the problem.

    You can go back to week 2 of last year when you had players griping about the scheme when he had Cam Wake cover Joe McKnight in space. Hes gone from a blitz-heavy defense to limiting sub packages and defensive packages but its still the same garbage *** scheme. Its frustrating as heck to watch. If I can see it I know coaches see it. A base 4-3 scheme and hybrid coverage schemes cant work when your front 4 cant stop teh run and thats what youre asking them to do while being great pass rushers. The biggest flaw this scheme has is it plays defense from the safeties up instead of from the front 7 out. Its backwards coordinating.
     
  23. Titleguru

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    Skimming these comments, the blame seems to go around to pretty much the whole team, with the possible exception of Tannehill (I'm still not convinced on him). The reality and distillation of pretty much all the issues comes down to coaching. As an old iron man myself, I can tell you that coaching makes or breaks a team. Players come and players go. Belecheat has lost draft picks and endured investigations and accusations. I'm not his advocate, but the guy finds a way to win consistently. Shula did it, other coaches do it (i.e. are successful without mega-stars). Looking at Mike Wallace, he was brilliant in Pitt, but tanked in Miami. I'm absolutely sold on the Fin's front office. They're smart and brutal. They need to clean house on the coaching side, and not just Phibin. This is not going to be Miami's year and a great deal of talent may flow out of the locker room at the end of this year, as many starters are up for contract renewal (Vernon for instance). Some good players are also going to be shortchanged by poor coaching and this will only exasperate the loss of talent. Several good players gravitated to the Suh acquisition that will not occur next year. Bottom line is that the quicker that Ross acknowledges the mistake and makes preparations to move on, the better.
     

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