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Week 4 - Dolphins at Bills

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Finatik, Sep 26, 2023.

  1. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    The Bills defense forced five turnovers and had nine sacks in Sunday’s rout of the Commanders, but there wasn’t much time for head coach Sean McDermott and his staff to enjoy that performance before they turned their attention to Week Four.

    Divisional games are always crucial and this weekend finds the Dolphins coming to town off of their offensive explosion against the Broncos. They posted 726 yards in a 70-20 win and McDermott said that the window to celebrate a win gets “shorter and shorter or smaller and smaller” with a team like that coming to town.

    Speed is a hallmark of Miami’s offense under head coach Mike McDaniel with players like Tyreek Hill, Jaylen Waddle, De’Von Achane, and Raheem Mostert pressuring defenses. The Bills saw that attack three times last season — Dolphins quarterback Tua Tagovailoa missed the playoff matchup between the teams — and McDermott said Monday that he thinks the Dolphins are pushing things even further than they did in 2022.

    “It seems like they added to it this offseason, right?,” McDermott said, via the team’s website. “So, very good skill. Tua is throwing the ball extremely well. And their schematics are almost revolutionary in what they do. Coach McDaniel is very creative and does a lot of things to get you out of position on defense.”

    Sunday’s game will feature more than the Bills defense against the Dolphins offense, but it feels like that’s going to be the crucial matchup to determine who gets a leg up in the race for the AFC East title.
     
  2. DolPhinPhan7

    DolPhinPhan7 Well-Known Member

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    I don't suspect the Dolphins will have trouble scoring, they certainly didn't in the regular season game last year in the Snow. Maybe not 70, but 30 plus is easily attainable. Washington was moving the ball well against Buffalo, but kept turning the ball over.

    Josh Allen is the wildcard here. He could suck, or he could win the game for them as he did in that same December game. His incompetence also lost the Bills that Week 3 game in Miami. It also damn near lost them the playoff game against Skylar Thompson.
     
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  3. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    I'm more worried about our defense getting exposed this week. We still have some issues. Howard is going to be picked on so I hope he is healthy and rested. Im worried about us blitzing more this week and Allen taking off and running for 75 yards and a score.
     
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  4. DolPhinPhan7

    DolPhinPhan7 Well-Known Member

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    Never forget.

     
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  5. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    What's going to win this game for us is if our defense can keep Allen in the pocket. Either that or taking our chances on winning a shootout.
     
  6. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    We are going to take these fools to the woodshed. With both the running game and passing game going they will have no idea how to stop this offense. 2 or 3 stops and the game will be out of hand at that point. Especially if Waddle plays. No game tape on him from last week.
     
  7. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    again not as worried about the offense our defense is still a work in progress and this will be the best offense we faced. We have to run and wear their defense out. I don’t think our d is ready to carry the load yet
     
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  8. KeyFin

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    That's the thing- they have to shut down both. Which means bringing the safeties up into the box...which they absolutely can't do. So they let us run until they can't anymore, and they creep the safeties up as they watch Tyreek dance in the end zone. It's a no-win situation...you can't stop our run game and passing attack.

    I don't think this will be an "easy win", but I do think we win this game comfortably. Maybe 34-20 or something like that? I just can't see them shutting us down and I don't see them matching us point for point unless Allen has an MVP-like day.
     
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  9. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Fangio was brought in for specifically this game. I expect some new wrinkles this weekend.
     
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  10. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    I like your confidence.
     
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  11. Springveldt

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    It doesn't have to carry the load, it just needs to be average. If they can force Buffalo to have 3 or 4 pointless possessions I think we win the game.
     
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  12. Striking

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    Not worried one bit. The Dolphins will lose a game eventually but not this week.
     
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  13. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    You know, I was a little concerned about this upcoming game but after a few days to digest the Broncos game, something dawned on me.

    When the Dolphins were up 49-13, McDaniel pulled the starters. Pulled Tua, pulled Hill, pulled Moestert and if I recall correctly pulled Achane (I think)…and the Dolphins 2nd and 3rd stringers still scored 21 points! Our 2nd and 3rd stringers score more points than the Broncos did all day!

    So the question becomes…who’s gonna stop us?

    Im pretty confident after taking a few days to look at all of the post game to be able and say we’re going to beat Buffalo…and do so comfortably.

    I’m saying 41-24…with the defense scoring a touchdown on one of a few Allen turnovers.
     
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  14. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    The Bills have a defense and the Broncos do not. The Bills have an offense and the Patriots do not. It will be an interesting game. If we score 41 against the Bills, Super Bowl talk is legit.
     
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  15. firedan

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    First time in a long time I feel good about their chances to win in Buffalo.
     
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  16. OwesOwn614

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    This is about as even as it's been for the past 5 years:
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  17. Hooligan

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    Achane stayed in for a little bit. One of the TDs was White lateral back to Achane for a TD.
     
  18. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    One game at a time. And BTW the Bills have beat the Jets the Raiders and the Commanders. It's not like they've played any juggernauts. Were going to take them down 42 -24.
     
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  19. Fishhead

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    Buffalo (in Buffalo), Philly and KC are the games I think will be the most difficult, especially with Philly and KC also being away games.
    Given that I live just outside of Philly, I REALLY want Miami to beat the Eagles, or it’s going to be a very unpleasant week afterwards.
     
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  20. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    So the 2 playoff and Superbowl winner teams. Not much of a limb there. LoL.
     
  21. JJ_79

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    They lost to the Jest, but that don’t mean anything for next game. I’m interested how we fare against the Jills, their D seems for real and let’s see wich Allen and what kind of Miami D will show up. Win would be awesome, don’t remember us starting 4-0 like ever, but I think it will be a close game division games always are. I’m pumped for Sunday already!
     
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  22. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    2 covers guys have to deal with hamstring and knee issue. Were going to blow them out this week to take a 3 game lead in the division over everyone....

    The Bills defense was short a few key players as they kicked off their practice week on Wednesday. Edge rusher Leonard Floyd missed practice along with safeties Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer. Floyd is listed with an ankle injury, Hyde has a hamstring issue, and Poyer is dealing with a knee problem.

    All three players were part of Buffalo’s outstanding defensive effort against the Commanders in Week Three and may be getting some rest in order to be as sharp as possible against the Dolphins this week. Given the quality of the Miami offense, Bills fans will be hoping that’s the case.

    Tackle Ryan Bates (ankle) and defensive back Siran Neal (ankle) were also out of practice. Cornerback Taron Johnson (hip) was the team’s only limited participant
     
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  23. Fireland

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    KC game is in Germany so pretty lucky break for a road game
     
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  24. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Dolphins left tackle Terron Armstead made his 2023 debut in last Sunday’s 70-20 victory over the Broncos, but he wasn’t on the field for Wednesday’s practice. Miami’s injury report noted that Armstead (back/ankle/knee) did not participate in the day’s session. Armstead has been listed on the injury report for the last three weeks with the same issues.

    Linebacker Jaelan Phillips (oblique), center Connor Williams (groin), receiver River Cracraft (shoulder), and receiver Erik Ezukanma (neck) also did not practice.

    Running back Salvon Ahmed (groin), safety DeShon Elliott (ankle/groin), tight end Tyler Kroft (back), and tight end Durham Smythe (hamstring) were all limited.

    Receiver Jaylen Waddle (concussion), tight end Julian Hill (ankle), and cornerback Eli Apple (neck/gameday concussion protocol evaluation) were all full participants. Head coach Mike McDaniel said earlier on Wednesday that if all goes well with Waddle, he could clear concussion protocol.
     
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  25. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    I would counter with all three defenses we played sucked. Buffalo doesn’t
     
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  26. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    And I’m going to counter that Buffalo nearly lost the playoff game against us…with our 3rd string quarterback at the helm.

    Buffalo’s defense didn’t stop the Jests…and they beat the Redskins and the Raiders. Not NFL powerhouses.

    Some here are saying this game is going to the Dolphins first true test. Bunk that…this game is going to be Buffalo’s first true test.

    They’re going to fail this test. If they stop the pass, they’re not going to be able to stop the run…and vice versa.

    We’re all going to be on cloud 9 come Sunday evening. Bank on it.
     
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  27. djphinfan

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    Mocha Hyde has threatened Tyreek hill

    He says “ let him come over the middle and I’ll send him to the tent”

    I like this kinda party
     
  28. Destroyer

    Destroyer There for every play.

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    I thought that was Micah Parsons.
     
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  29. Tuanon4Life

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    Hyde missed practice Wednesday with a hamstring. He'll be toast trying to cover Hill.
     
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  30. Tuanon4Life

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    I really hope you're right. As a Miami fan I personally feel like this game is heads or tails... until I imagine being a Bills fan. Miami is definitely the better team right now. It won't be easy but I feel like we can do this.
     
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  31. dolphin25

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    interesting you say that. Watched a preview of bills game on NFL. The dude previewing said the Dolphins had never started 4-0... I'm like gosh wonder how they finished 17-0 then??? He also said the Dolphins had never been to the Super Bowl without Marino.. I was like how the heck do these people get hired?
     
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  32. dolphin25

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    9 sacks and 5 turnovers in one game by their defense is not terrible.
     
  33. Springveldt

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    Then you would counter wrong, the Patriots are a top 5 defence considering they are ranked 5th in yards, 5th in passing yards, 9th in rushing yards and 9th in scoring while having faced both the Dolphins and the Eagles in those 3 games. By the end of the season the Patriots defence will be higher ranked than Buffalo.

    Even while making offensive mistakes the Dolphins should still have scored 30+ while coming off a west coast road game. Have some faith, watch them score 35 on Sunday.
     
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  34. Springveldt

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    He was making fun of himself after he said last week that the Dolphins hadn't started 3-0 since the 90's (completely forgetting about last season) which everyone pointed out in the comments.

    Also Daniel Jeremiah seems to pick against the Dolphins most weeks, he even picked the Broncos last week.
     
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  35. JJ_79

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    I didn’t say we never started 4-0 and the last time we did it was 1995, been a long time.
     
  36. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    October 1st 1995 is the last time the Dolphins started a season 4-0.
     
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  37. dolphin25

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    I know you did not, the guy doing the game preview said it.
     
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  38. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    For all of you who are optimistic, you have every right. You're making good arguments and I hope you all end up being right!

    I'm not pessimistic about this game, I just view it as a coin flip. If it were in Miami I'd be leaning much more optimistic instead of neutral. I don't have any sound arguments to be neutral - just to say I've been in attendance at too many games in that stadium where the Dolphins should win, but a couple of things go wrong, the crowd gets into it and the game slips away.

    One thing I can tell you all living in the heart of Western NY - Bills fans are afraid!
     
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  39. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    I dont know...we won on the road in Los Angeles...we won on the road in Foxborough. Neither are away team friendly.
     
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  40. Fireland

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    Can't really agree with LA. There were a lot of Dolphin fans. Wasn't too far off from being a neutral site.
     
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