Well here we go..JT Hold out

Holy crap what a disappointment

edit: I'm officially done with this guy, I had been convincing myself that he actually wanted to be part of the team, screw him

Great to hear :pity:.

Wish he would have requested this publicly prior to draft day. I believe he requested a trade before but did not demand it and said it behind closed doors. Way to screw us out of a couple draft picks JT, now we may only get one.

:(

Thanks for the memories JT, just wish you would have done this sooner rather than later.

Trade Him To Atlanta!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have lost so much respect for the guy! :no:

I remember rumors on draft day about getting a 2nd and a 4th for him from Tampa, but obviously that fell through. I would have jumped on that in a heart beat.

My fear is that with the ensuing of this drama, a well beloved player from the dolphins will become a despised one. I would hate to see that happen, but it seems like the most logical progression in this situation.

I just wish he demanded a trade prior to the draft publicly and we got rid of him before this could happen. Oh well, whats done is done and hopefully the new administration can figure out a way to unload him without this lasting the entire offseason.

JT has turned into a Huge Disappointment!

"Die_Nasty wrote:

I remember rumors on draft day about getting a 2nd and a 4th for him from Tampa, but obviously that fell through. I would have jumped on that in a heart beat.

My fear is that with the ensuing of this drama, a well beloved player from the dolphins will become a despised one. I would hate to see that happen, but it seems like the most logical progression in this situation.

I just wish he demanded a trade prior to the draft publicly and we got rid of him before this could happen. Oh well, whats done is done and hopefully the new administration can figure out a way to unload him without this lasting the entire offseason.

Yeah thats exactly what I was saying in my earlier post. I wish he would have stated this publicly and at an earlier time because the situation was good being it was right around the draft. We could have gotten a couple picks like you stated, a 2nd and 4th. The only thing is now is that if he be becomes too big of a head case, it will no doubtly drop his value for us. Lets say he forces his way out. The value could be around a fourth rounder where it would have been that fourth and extra change only a month ago. Thats my biggest fear.

Man, I hate that it is turning out this way... Hard for us fans who make an emotional investment in this game, versus the players and teams that are business first...

Don't even get rid of him just let him hold out all season we won't be getting anything good for him or equal value. Let him spend the season in Hollywood dancing and watching football. I was one who wanted to keep him now I feel stupid for wanting to bring him back.

The only thing now is that if he becomes too big of a head case, it will no doubtly drop his value for us.

Honestly, I don't see his value dropping due to the outburst or because he is a "headcase". But I do see his value dropping due to other circumstances. The fact that we are being forced into this decision and other teams know this will lower the offering price straight off the bat.

When a team knows we have to trade him they will be less likely to give up more. At this point Ill be happy if we get anything of value for him. A 3rd rounder would be great.

"Brown42000 wrote:

Don't even get rid of him just let him hold out all season we won't be getting anything good for him or equal value. Let him spend the season in Hollywood dancing and watching football. I was one who wanted to keep him now I feel stupid for wanting to bring him back.

You are not alone.

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"Brown42000 wrote:

Don't even get rid of him just let him hold out all season we won't be getting anything good for him or equal value. Let him spend the season in Hollywood dancing and watching football. I was one who wanted to keep him now I feel stupid for wanting to bring him back.

I rather get rid of him than keep him. Eventually he could end up being a growing pain in the ass over the course of the season. i rather take a fourth rounder for example than have him sit there for nothing. That fourth rounder could end up being a steal in next years draft. If he sits the season and we get him to come back next year, his value could be lower because of his age factor.

A draft pick for him would be better than having him sit there and do nothing for us or just retire on us.

"Brown42000 wrote:

Don't even get rid of him just let him hold out all season we won't be getting anything good for him or equal value. Let him spend the season in Hollywood dancing and watching football. I was one who wanted to keep him now I feel stupid for wanting to bring him back.

Bill said that JT will play for the dolphins or retire well Bill i hope you keep your word let him retire....

Jason Taylor gone AWOL

Taylor's kept it kosher till now. He requested a trade privately that didn't happen. He's pumped his hometown, South Florida, during the competition, and even used Will Smith's song Welcome to Miami for his final performance.

But it appears he'd rather be saying "Goodbye to Miami," after 11 seasons.

Taylor's camp has floated about the possibility of retirement for months, hinting that movie deals could be in the works. He's meeting with studio executives this week to talk about his Hollywood future. But is there really a role waiting for him, and is he willing to walk away from the $16.5 million he's expected to make over the next two seasons?

Could he seriously pull a Jim Brown move and walk away from the game in the prime of his career.

Is that what this is all about, or did the Trifecta tell Taylor he might as well not report in July if he's going to miss all of June?

If things are so great for you without football, how about trying life without it. See you when we see you.

Disclosing Taylor's planned absence turns the tables on him and his camp, making him now look like the bad guy, and lightening Parcells' villain status a bit.

No longer can Taylor be viewed as the South Florida star trying to set up his next career. Twinkle Toes Taylor now becomes the distracted athlete who has abandoned his franchise, the one that made him a wealthy superstar.

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2008/05/jason-taylor-go.html

Well, I'd like to be upset with JT, but...

This isn't the first time he's said this. He said it a while back, behind closed doors, and not to the media. He didn't say it on his blog, he didn't say it to the world, he told his agent and his bosses and let it be.

If anyone is to blame in this scenario, it's the Dolphins front office. How many more years and legends are we going to have to treat like **** before we finally do the right thing?

For years Jason and Zach were told, "hey, we're almost there. If we had just a bit more space under the cap, and just a couple more players we'll be in the SB. I promise!". How many years were we fed the same line? How many times have we heard as fans "no, we're not rebuilding, we feel we're playoff ready"?

So now we've got a DPOY, a Pro-Bowler who has played 12 years for this team who quietly and respectfully asks for a trade in the offseason and doesn't make a stink about it to the public, airing it like so much dirty laundry a la Terell Owens, Randy Moss or Ocho Cinco, and we're attacking him? We're blaming him? This is all his fault?

Here we are, in what is certainly and obviously a rebuilding scenario. It will take at minimum 3 years for us to be playoff bound and capable. JT doesn't have that kind of time left in his career, and he wants to win.

I want one of you, any of you to tell me that we should have to see JT gut it out and retire from football the same way Dan Marino did. I want you to tell me that in a world where Manny Wright won a SB ring we should be angry and upset that JT wants his chance too, especially after all he's given us and we've given him.

If anything we should be glad to see him traded and go to a team that has a chance to compete for a SB, because when he goes into the hall he's going in as a Dolphin.

I refuse to stand by any front office that will do to JT the same thing JJ did to Marino. I've seen one of my childhood heros forced out of the game by the Dolphins front office, and I will not stand idly by while JT is slandered for being a great player for us all of these years.

I think one of the big problems in dealing JT will be with his salary. Not sure how much he is supposed to make this year, but I believe it is a fairly significant amount. I say trade him for hopefully a third round pick or better to a contender. He was a good player in the past for us, but I think he will be nothing but a distraction to the chemistry this regime is creating and a thumbsucker to boot.

I guess all that dancing went to his head? You could have left the Phins as one of the most liked players ever, but now you are lower than Welker and Seau in my eyes. Good riddance JT.....I am putting my JT jerseys up for sale on Ebay.

I don't see this as the front office forcing him out, a la Marino. They tried to trade him prior to the draft, but couldn't get a trade they liked. The are not forcing him out, or asking him to take a reduced salary, or anything like that. He is under contract, and simply wants to go somewhere else, which is fine, but the fo is not going to give him away for nothing.
I see this more like Ricky deciding to go travel and toke on the eve of training camp than what happened to Dan. He is choosing to be somewhere else other than football right now, and it's not the team's fault. They attempted to accomodate him, but it didn't work, so don't be a baby JT. Play or don't get paid, but shut up and act like a man. I don't see BP in the media complaining about it. You know he doesn't like it but he's not acting like a jerk in the media, I don't even remember a single quote by Bill talking about it.

I don't like what's going on here, I liked JT and wish we could have traded him so he could play for a ring, and we could continue building for the future, but it didn't work out that way. Now he is screwing himself and the team by his antics. Have a nice life, and good riddance. Trade him to the Cardinals or the Raiders!

He makes me sick!

He dances his way to Hollywood and now (after the Draft) he demands a trade and holds out, that's not professional!

Let's trade him for Chad Johnson!

"Dolfan4Life wrote:

He makes me sick!

He dances his way to Hollywood and now (after the Draft) he demands a trade and holds out, that's not professional!

Let's trade him for Chad Johnson!

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Yeah, he's been much more professional about his desire for a trade. :pointlol:

Is it a "coincidence" that this story broke the day after his Dancing contest was finished? JT wanted to get those Fin fan votes before he told them he didnt want to play there any more.

JT or no JT, it wont make a big difference this upcoming season. I just wished we could have got something in return for him. The draft day Tampa rumors would have been a nice deal

"evz wrote:

Man, I hate that it is turning out this way... Hard for us fans who make an emotional investment in this game, versus the players and teams that are business first...

i agee with you so much. i remember the days of jake scott, jack lambert, dick butkis. hell they played because they loved the game, screw the money. that was just icing on the cake. ever since this free agent crap came about the game has gone downhill. even with the damn rookies holding out before they've ever played a down. ie jamar fletcher or john avery. there was some wasted picks and money. they should have a set rate that a rookie should get when he comes into the league, when he proves himself then he should get the money.