Well if Chad Johnson gets cut that will cement our WR corps as worst in the league.

Exactly. When looking at WR & TE combined, the Bills have less depth and talent than we do IMO.

 

I always thought he was a model citizen tbh.

 

The Bills have Stevie Johnson, who is better than anyone we have but I don't think they've got the depth we do.

The Jets have Dustin Keller, who I don't know if you give extra regard to because his production is as a tight end, but I'd argue they are comparable. Santonio Holmes has been productive, but as a Jet he's awful. He catches barely 50% of his passes, and he's an example of someone who is being utilized above his ability to contribute. Maybe that's because the Steelers made him look better than he is, maybe because the Jets make him look worse, but regardless, he's not very good. Stephen Hill has the possibility to change it, but probably won't as a rookie.

 

Lee Evans just got released, wouldn't be surprised to see us give him a look if we release Chad.

 

You can also throw in the fact that he's 34 years old, and IMO unlikely to contribute sufficiently more than let's say Brian Hartline to justify keeping him despite the distraction.

In fact you could even make the argument that his presence is a liability all the way around, in that he's a distraction because of his personality, and his physical contribution likely wouldn't be sufficient to make the argument that he's not simply getting in the way of a younger receiver's development.

Again, New England cut him on his physical contribution alone, since he somehow managed to tone down his personality there. I see no reason to believe his physical contribution here would be any better, and now you have to add in the distraction factor.

 

I don't think Chad was a lock to make this team before the headbutt incident and now it has to make Philbin wonder if he is worth the risk.I think they will cut their losses and let him go.

 

I expect the Dolphins to be active looking at other wrs on other rosters.

 

Chad Johnson wasn't adding much anyway, I know for some reason he is way overvalued here on this board but the truth is we're losing nothing but a loudmouth clown who's way past his prime.

 

Now way we trade for Wallace now. Looks like we will be picking towards the top of the draft!!

 

I think you sink or swim with youth at wr to go with Tannehill.

 

Indeed.

 

I disagree. It's a disaster. We will now be short all those catches that Johnson made in the Bucs preseason game. <sarcasm>

 

The bottom line is, if you take every WR on the Dolphins roster and add up their career TD's you have a total of 21. To put that into perspective, Gronk had 17 last year. Hell, Jordy Nelson had 15. So, as of right now, they don't have impact players. They don't have a WR who can make a big play consistently. This shouldn't be a surprise though, because outside of the Brandon Marshall acquisition Ireland hasn't even attempted to acquire one.

It doesn't matter if they're the worst corps in the league; they're one of the worst.

 

And with worse WRs we went 11-5. So what?

We weren't gonna make the playoffs with CJ or BM.

 

I'm not worried about Marshall or Johnson, but you kinda need good WR's in this league no?

 

Sure. What were your expectations for this season...SB?

 

I'm not worried this season. Until Tannehill becomes the permanent starter none of it matters. I would like to see some talent brought in at the WR position though, which is why I hated the Jonathan Martin pick. It would've nice to pick up T-Hill and then an Alshon Jeffrey in the 2nd Round, but what's done is done.

 

Good thing last years TD total don't win a damn thing in this years games.

Edit Hopefully we won't march down field and settle for 3 points.

 

With many majors holes (theoretically) covered this off season, we'll all have all next draft for WRs right when Tanny is starting to hit his stride.

I just don't understand why so many are lamenting the the lack of big play WR this year.

 

It's a "show me" type deal for me. If Ireland had attempted to draft a WR in his 4 years before this past draft, I might not worry as much. And I don't really buy the "major holes" theory. This team has had major holes every year for the last God knows how many years.

 

Well, if we're going to blame Ireland for drafts made while Parcells was here, then there's no point in discussing this further. Its clear to me, I don't understand people who make that argument and stick to it so steadfastly (when there is minimal evidence) that every move thereafter is colored by it. Its cult like to me.

 

How many drafts has Ireland had control of and how many WR's has he taken?

 

Either way, unless there's a fundamental change in philosophy regarding the WR position and how to acquire talent at it we're stuck with Legedu Nannee as a #1.

 

They used that philosophy to aquire a QB this year. If the need is top priority next year I bet we get one. We might all be screaming for a new safety or linebacker though.

 

2 drafts without having to follow the Parcells blueprint. 3 WRs, Gates, Matthews & Cunningham.

And I'll say it again, every hole we've tried to fill the last two drafts with higher picks is more important than the hole at WR. In fact, I'd venture to say if Ireland drafted a WR high last year with BM on the team many people would have been pissed for neglecting other more important holes.

 

Every team in the NFL has major holes.

 

I don't think Bess, Nannee, and a healthy Hartline is that bad of a receiving group. When you add in what you have at the TE position, there shouldn't be much consternation over receiving targets. Our receivers production will likely be capped by the QB's production, not the other way around.

 

Some more than others, but yeah. But that's also why I said it shouldn't be used as an excuse for acquiring talent at a position that's a key for success in this league.

 

Considering I have 13k posts on Finheaven with this same name, no.

 

Where do you find the time to post here, there AND as a racist on kookyklan.kom?

Must keep your posts short.

 

I take back everything I said in this thread. Omar Kelly says he can't find any holes in Legedu Naanee's game (and he looked). I stand corrected.

 

Well, if that's not a ringing endorsement... lol.

I somewhat agree. I'd say they're probably avergae, maybe slightly below.

The main issue is that we don't know when Hartline will be healthy, or if he'll play at 80% all year.

 

We don't have any depth whatsoever either. The Bills ****ty WR's are no different than our ****ty WR's. The difference is they actually have a very good WR at least. Holmes is significantly better than any of our WR's, same with Keller. And Hill is infinitely more talented than any of our WR's.

We have a solid at best WR in Bess and a bunch of crap. Hartline stinks. 2 TD's the last 2 seasons. Naanee was probably the worst starting WR in the NFL last year. Everyone else hasn't and most likely won't ever show much in the NFL. Sorry but this collective bunch of crap won't get it done in today's NFL. Not a single playmaker at WR/TE on the roster, except maybe Clay based on a tiny sample size.

 

Well, he did draft 2 receivers the same year we drafted Vontae and Smith. One was Hartline, one was a kid from USC (can't remember his name), then he also drafted Clyde Gates, and got Bess as an UDFA. Also he drafted B.J. Cunningham and Rishard Matthews just this past draft. So in the years he has been here he has actually attempted to draft wide receivers - 5 of them off of the top of my head. That averages out to over 1 a year, so saying he hasn't attempted to draft is a bit much.

Have they all worked out? No, but I'd reckon we are no less successful than most teams who draft WR's, that position seems to have a high failure rate. Meaning you'll need to draft a bunch more than other positions in order to get someone to be successful. Like New England for example, they haven't had a wide receiver they have drafted make an impact in a long, long time - maybe Deion Branch was the last one aside from Julian Edelman.

 

The fact that one was a guy you can't even name, and the others being in the 4th round (or later) kinda shows he hasn't valued the position. That was my point. Drafting guys in the 5th and 6th rounds isn't gonna cut it. So that was my bad for not clarifying. You know what he should try? Drafting one in the first two rounds. That could work.

Put it another way, would you agree that Safety and WR are the two weakest positions on the team? If so, take a gander at where those guys were drafted.

 

Also, the Pats acquired Randy Moss and Wes Welker, then drafted Hernandez and Gronk. I'd say they did OK. Now, if the Dolphins wanna go out and get a first ballot HOF'er in his prime for a couple years like Moss was I'd be cool with that too.

 

Hopefully (fingers crossed), someday, we'll have a draft with 7 picks in the first two rounds. Then we can spend high picks everywhere on the team.