Well if Chad Johnson gets cut that will cement our WR corps as worst in the league.

As of this moment:

Passing Offense: #3
Rushing Offense: #31
Passing Defense: #19
Rush Defense: #19

We might not have a star WR but the ball is getting spread around. We obviously have much deeper issues with the rest of our units outside of special teams.

 

Hartline's quality, however not healthy at the moment.

I don't see why one would shell out not just a large sum of money, but likely a high draft choice for Mike Wallace. The wide receiver position, in general, is overvalued and the same can be said about Mike Wallace, who if I may remind you, was selected in the third round in 2009.

 

Perhaps, but you can't force the issue either. We all have guys we like coming out of the draft or in free agency or what have you, but if he doesn't fit the system or requirements they have, then he doesn't fit the team. Is this teams WR group pretty bad? You could say that. They have two good receivers and a bunch of guys who probably aren't starting material, which makes everyone panic. But perhaps may be able to serve a situational role, which isn't necessarily bad. It's a matter of choosing and utilizing them correctly, which comes down to the staff.

Pittsburgh understands value. Mike Wallace was a good value in the third round. Mike Wallace would not be a good value to pay a significant sum of money and shell out a high draft pick for.

 

Mike Wallace was excellent value in the 3rd round. Tom Brady was also excellent value as a 6th rounder. You can find examples of great value picks all over the NFL, but if you want to do the best you can to fill a hole, your going to spend a 1st round pick to do so. That's why the Dolphins took Ryan Tannehill in the 1st. That's also why if no one emerges from now until the 2013 draft the Dolphins will most likely take a WR early.

My argument for taking Wallace would be: the chances of you finding a better player than Wallace at any position in the 1st round are not likely. The chance of finding a WR that's better is extremely unlikely. I know the "WRs aren't that important" crowd won't like that at all, but being a WR coach I don't share that opinion.

 

Problem is, in my opinion at least, is that not every hole is equal, thus the value is not equal. Regarding the Tannehill example, I didn't think Tannehill was worthy of a 1, but I can see why they took him: he's a quarterback. You don't make that same argument for a wide receiver unless you're talking about elite athlete at the position, such as Calvin Johnson. If you're picking the WR in the back end of the first, which is essentially a two, then OK, depending on the player he is. Would I have taken Mike Wallace in the first round when he came out? No. Would I have taken Hakeem Nicks in the first? Yes. Those are two different players, and the latter is better than the former to me.

I don't agree with that.

 

Fair enough. We can agree to disagree. Calvin Johnson might eventually go down as the greatest WR of all time and is the best WR prospect I've ever seen coming into the NFL. Guys like that come around once every generation or less. Personally, I think guys like Julio Jones and Hakeem Nicks are well worth spending a 1st round pick on.

I think Wallace is one of the best WRs in football and think he would make a huge impact if he were added to the Dolphins roster. Not to mention, make Tannehill's transition to the NFL smoother, which IMO, could be worth a 1st round pick in itself.

 

To each their own.

 

WR position overvalued ? its a passing league .....and i dont care if he is a 7th round pick, he is definately one of the bigtime playmakers in this game who also has clearly outplayed his rookie deal

 

So?

 

You should submit your resume' to Ross to be the next GM.

 

I'm not sure what game you were watching but the Abraham sack was on Jake.

 

Chad is gone, Naanee is invisible, and the fan favorite at wr has an enemy in his position coach. And Bess is the only guy that is going to keep Tannehill above water as of right now. Maybe Fasano because tonight has to be a figment of our imagination.

 

You failed to noticed that Martin was being beaten just as badly on the same play ... Ryan just happened to be drifting to the left. If Abraham hadn't gotten him, Martins guy would have

 

yeah I thought the only reason Martin got the fumble recover was cause he got beat so bad

 

Gotta start asking why the WR coach is stubbornly keeping Naanee at number one with no production.

Is he a rigid minded guy who insists on sticking with criteria like, 'base it on practice not game performance' or something? Or size templates? Or 'looking the part'? I mean what gives?

The same guy who almost seems to resent Hogans popularity, like he resent feeling pressured to play a guy who actually produces when on the field.

I sense a Dan Henning style ****ing ego with this WR coach that will actually interfere with him doing what's best for the team on game day, because he has convinced himself he knows best and everyone else is wrong.

**** the WR coach. Play Matthews or Gates with the ones and sit Naanee. Play Hogan more. Get the goddamned ball moving. Pay the guys who catch the ****ing ball.

Not too tricky.

 

Something about Nanee having pictures of the WR coach and a goat not sure how Nanee keeps a goat picture for his job but that's why he is still in the top spot a guy that I know told a guy that told me.

 

Gimme a ****ing break. There's so little substance (if any) to actually make that claim.

 

Like I said, worst in the league easily. If Tannehill is smart, Bess is going to get an extreme amount of targets this season, because that's pretty much the only receiver that doesn't completely suck.

 

Maybe not the worst, but in the bottom 5 without a doubt.

 

I definitely agree with bottom 5. I don't know about the worst, but does it really matter when you're bottom 5?

 

Name one that is worst.

 

This is the worse receiving unit I can recall in the 40 plus years I have been a fan.

 

Raiders have Denarius Moore, Derrius Heyward-Bey, and Jacoby Ford
Seattle has Ben Obomanu, Golden Tate, Deon Butler, Terrell Owens, Doug Baldwin, Sidney Rice,
Chargers have Robert Meachem, Malcom Floyd, Eddie Royal, Roscoe Parrish
Vikings have Jerome Simpson, Percy Harvin, Devin Aromashodu, Michael Jenkins, Jarius Wright
Rams have Danny Amendola, Brian Quick, Chris Givens, Austin Pettis, Steve Smith the lesser, Danario Alexander, Greg Salas
Jags have Justin Blackmon, Laurent Robinson, Mike Thomas, Brian Robiskie

Which group would you say is worse than Miami's?

 

None. I can't think of a team with a worse receiving corps. I'm just amazed at how the team allowed the WR position to get this point. What a joke... they were gambling on Chad Johnson and lost. Now, we seem to be screwed at the position.

 

I thought, maybe the Browns, but Josh Gordon is looking good, and they also have Greg Little, Josh Cribbs, Travis Benjamin and Mohamed Massaquoi. I believe I'd also take them over our top 5.

 

Completely agree. I think Cribbs is underrated and they at least have some potential on that squad.

As for us, I think Bess and Hartline are quality players. Outside of that, however, there seems to be very little or nothing that can present a plausible threat to opposing defenses. Gates has exceptional speed but hasn't really been able to convert that into results. The only young guy who has somewhat impressed me has been Matthews- but he really should not be a #3/#4 receiver at this point in his career.

 

Raiders - Better. Moore is very solid, and Heyward-Bey finally had a good season. Jacoby Ford is ok. All of those guys at least have the potential to take any catch the distance, where none of ours do except maybe Gates, but he has 2 career catches.

Seattle - Better. Baldwin is a very solid player. TO didn't play in the NFL last year so we'll see, but he was pretty good his last year in Cincy. Sidney Rice is never healthy, but is a good player when he is. Obomanu and Tate are about as good as everyone else not named Bess or Hartline.

Chargers - Better. Meachem was always a very solid player in NO. He's likely going to be pretty good this year with a larger role. Floyd was a very good player last year and the year before. He's a pro bowler if he can ever play 16 games instead of 11 or 12. Eddie Royal is wildly inconsistent and Parrish is nothing more than a return specialist.

Vikings - Better. Simspon is a very solid #2. Harvin is better than anything we have. Jarius Wright is a rookie and the other guys are at least even with everyone we have other than Bess and Hartline.

Rams - Now this one is worst than ours. Amendola is a solid possession WR, nothing more. Think Camarillo. He's their best WR, and he manages to be worse than our best WR in Bess. Steve Smith could be good, we'll see. Everyone else are either rookies, or just not very good at all.

Jags - Better. Blackmon is rookie, but obviously a very talented one who's looked good in the preseason. Laurent Robinson had a very good year last year, but is never healthy. Thomas is about on Hartline's level. Robiskie sucks. You forgot Lee Evans. I imagine he'll have a solid season as a #3 WR.

So based on that, I'd say the Rams are worse than ours.

 

I think Lee Evans is released.

And the fact that the Rams *might* be the only team in the league worse than us speaks for itself. Heck, right now we don't even have Hartline. He might not play a down this year. Either way, our WRs are beyond pitiful.

 

Looks like you're right. So much for that then. I still think the Jaguars are better, but only very slightly.

Brian Hartline is as mediocre as one could be, but damn does he look a hell of a lot better than what we're trotting out there.

 

Like was said before it is like comparing crap to vomit.

 

Pretty much.

 

Here is a quote from rotoworld:
Legedu Naanee secured just one of his five targets in the Dolphins' third preseason game Friday night, gaining eight yards.
We've seen Naanee talked up by one South Florida media outlet in particular, but he's long been a thoroughly ineffective NFL receiver in actual games, and this preseason has been no different. The journeyman-caliber wideout has two catches for 20 yards on seven targets through three exhibition contests. The Dolphins aren't exactly setting up rookie quarterback Ryan Tannehill for success.

 

I have no idea why he's still on the roster to be honest. He's never been good, never will be. I'd rather just throw Gates out there and hope for the best.