Both should win this weekend.

 

LOL, don't forget we're beating the brakes off the Pats in two weeks...be sure to factor that into your master plan!

 

If we get a good deal, I wouldn’t mind trading up to get Mendoza, like what I‘m seeing!

 

Yeah, me too but would need to be a helluva trade. Who above us is QB needy?

 

I have absolutely no interest in any QB in this year's class. I'd rather trade down and stock up on as many picks as we can get to build up the rest of the team, then look to draft a QB in 2027.

 

Disagree. Didn't like what I saw vs Ohio State. Goes into shell mode under pressure. He's going to take a lot of hard hits in the NFL if that continues. Hope I'm wrong because I really want Bama to lose.

 

Only under the circumstances that we get a good deal like the trade up for Dion Jordan (wrong player but the deal was fair). I‘m fine with them waiting to pick a QB next next draft, but I wouldn’t mind Mendoza.

 

Wouldn't be wise given that we're going to be in dire straights cap wise 2026 and 2027. We need draft picks and UDFA bodies to field teams. Phins should trade down unless a blue chip player falls to them, preferably a OL RT.

PFF rates Mendoza's game vs Ohio State as excellent under pressure. I didn't see that. I felt Ohio State had several opportunities at sacks, when he went into shell mode, and just didn't get there. I literally have no idea how that happened so often. And I was and am rooting for Indiana and any team not named Ohio State, Alabama or Georgia

 

Ruining the Pats playoff path is almost as good as a playoff win in my book. I simply do not want to see them take the division and if we can help out Buffalo, that's a great thing in my book.

I dislike Buffalo....but gosh I hate the Pats. It's two completely different levels.

 

I hate the Bills the most, by far. Then the Jets. And honestly, I might hate the Ravens more than I do the Patriots.

 

The only reason that trade was available that year was because the draft was so weak. Honestly we would have been better off parcelling off all our 2013 picks for 2014 and 2015 picks than selecting anyone from that draft

 

Oh wow, not me. I generally hate whichever AFC East team is currently the best, but Deflategate and Spygate changed that for me. They freakin' cheated and still had a dynasty amidst it all with the golden boy Brady...who people call the GOAT. They cheated! LOL. I laugh about it now but the hatred has never left.

I don't like the Ravens either, mainly because we never could beat them for so long.

I do hate the Bills fans the most by far, but I respect them as a team. I'm not sure how that really happened but I stopped hating on them a few years back.

And the Jets, how can anyone hate the Jets? I used to when they were competitive, but they've been so bad for so long now, it's like picking on a handicapped person or something. I still laugh when they lose in spectacular ways, despite what talent they might have. I see them as the Lions or the Browns of 10-20 years ago with zero chance of being competitive.

 

I was a little kid in the 80s, and became a diehard when I was in middle school in 1990. From that point through my freshman year of college, the Fins had good teams every year, but Buffalo had our number. They beat us in Miami on MNF a few times in heartbreakers, beat us in the playoffs in 90, 92 and 95, and of course went to the SB four times while we didn't, even though we were close. As a teenager, that killed me, and I developed a strong hatred towards the team, the players, and everything about them. When they were down for a while, they still continued to have our number in Buffalo almost every year, and then of course they've been contenders lately and really taken it to us so many times.

With the Jets, it felt in the 90s that no matter how much better we were, they always gave us a hard time. Then as soon as the Bills faded, they stepped up and took their place, and we lost eight straight games to them when I was in my early 20s, including the Nightmare in NYC MNF meltdown. Over a ten year span that was basically my 20s, we went 4-16 against them. Like Buffalo, that sticks to my bones.

By the time that the Patriots really got rolling with their dominance, I was in my 30s, less passionate through age, and worn down by losing for the first time as a fan. I guess it just didn't hit as hard. And even then, we did better against them at home in that span than we did against the Bills and Jets when those teams were beating us up for the most part. It didn't feel hopeless, even though the Fins weren't great at all.

 

2013 still hurts. What I wanted, going in, was to draft TE Tyler Eifert and RB LeVeon Bell in the first two rounds. I didn't even think that they'd be as good as they ended up. Imagine if we gave RT17 those two weapons to start his second year with the team, instead of Charles Clay and Daniel Thomas.

 

Personally just want to see core players, play well and avoid catastrophic injury. At this point that includes Ewers. We're likely to finish last in our division next year, whatever happens this year. Unless Ewers plays on a Purdy level. Yep, Merry Christmas!

 

Hard to see us beating the Jets or Raiders for a trade up to first overall. Jets especially with that haul will dictate the draft.

There are also potentially a lot of moving pieces this offseason. Kyler Murray is almost certainly gone in Arizona, and they currently pick ahead of us. Could Joe Burrow demand out of Cinci? Could Lamar be on the outs in Baltimore? What will teams like the Vikings, Colts or Chiefs do? Will anyone be willing to drop like 7-10 mil to have Tua start a few games before their starter comes back?

It's hard to see a great path to moving up, especially with a dearth of higher-tier QBs to choose from. Our best bet is to eat some of these bad contracts, select an OT or pass rusher where we are or maybe trade down for some extra picks. Be mediocre to bad in 2026 and hopefully have a better pick in a richer QB draft in 27.

 

That's my feeling too. Shore up the OL and the DBs most of all, continue to build the foundation, and set the future rookie QB up for more success when he's here. Plus, you don't waste a year of his rookie contract having him get killed on a really bad team or on the bench. I see no benefit to that, especially in a year where the draft is thin at the position.

 

Think Brewer is signed for another year and Daniels two? Left side is set. Just have to find a RT. Ideally a blue chip would be best but if we're stuck with Jackson for another year... If so, using a 2nd or 3rd as a backup plan would work. Drafting a RT and C would be a good investment for the future.

Otherwise we need a lot of defense...and likely a QB

 

No guarantee that Daniels will be able to play even if he's still around. We only got a few snaps from him this year, he was coming off a different, season ending injury from the year before when he only played in 4 games, and has a history before that too. This is a guy who will be 29 next year, and has played 9 snaps since September 22 of 2024.

 

True. RT and RG are bigger needs than I first thought. Those 3 3rds will come in handy. We need a GM who can identify OL talent.

 

For the first time in 35 years....

 

Gotta extend Brewer imo, he's worth it. Jackson I think you have to see how much you could potentially save vs just letting him play out his deal. He's a solid RT but his availability is woof. That UM tackle Mauigoa is an ideal fit. Slot him in at RG for the year and then slide to RT next year, or sooner if Jackson gets hurt again.

I hate to say it, but I don't know if we can pencil in Savaiinea as a starter for next year. Have to have a solid competition there. Dude just didn't play well enough, progress consistently enough or show enough down the stretch for me to feel good about him.

 

In his defense, he's a RG that was made to play LG. While some may not see that as an issue, everything is completely backwards. You train and play for years with footwork for RG that it becomes second nature...then get moved to the other side of the line and now what was second nature, you have to consciously THINK about...and still revert back to what you know and end up looking incompetent.

This is one thing about the league in general that always astounds me. You draft a player because of how well he played in college...how awesome he was at a position, bring him to the NFL and then want to change what made him great in college. I never understood why he wasn't put on the right side of the line.

 

Think Savaiinea moves to his more natural RG next year now that I consider it. Jackson we'll see. Dolphins will likely push a pay cut. Phins need to invest at least 2 picks on OL

 

Maybe, but could also see us looking at free agents, though in the mid/lower tier. Maybe a guy a GM thinks we can unlock. We have a lot of needs in general, doubling on a position in the draft will be tough. DE is a big need, CB, S, OL, WR. New GM is going to have their work cut out for them.

 

I don't know that we'll be able to afford any free agents. That's why I think it's important to trade any talent we do have for draft picks. 2026 should be written off as a springboard to 2027. And letting McDaniel and Tua go is important to reset the culture.

 

We won't be able to afford premium free agents. Like, we aren't signing Tyler Linderbaum or Trey Hendrickson. We will sign a couple of mid to low price guys though. I just don't really love the idea of having both a RT and RG both be rookies, especially if you are actually entertaining the possibility that Ewers might be a competent NFL starter.

 

No issue signing low priced guards but we must not go through another season thinking Eichenburg is an option.

I have no issue with going with 1-2 rookies along the line. This is a common occurrence throughout the league