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Were the Apollo Moon Missions Faked?

Discussion in 'Science & Technology' started by FatFreddy, Jan 23, 2010.

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  1. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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  2. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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  3. FatFreddy

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  4. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I am shocked that you think that video somehow proves Mythbusters to be a fraud.
     
  5. Ohio Fanatic

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    you lose all credibility when calling moon zero gravity. while it's much less (~80%), there's still gravity there.
    Given human nature, it's stupid as all hell to think something like that could be kept secret.
     
  6. cdz12250

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    Evolution deniers, Holocaust deniers and moon landing deniers share several common traits. One of them is to attempt to leverage a few unexplained facts into proof of the nonexistence of an event that is overwhelmingly supported by the record and universally accepted. Another is semantic sophistry, such as "the theory of evolution is just that -- only a theory." the last is the utter inability to be convinced because, rather than evaluating the other side's arguments objectively, their sole purpose is to counter them.

    Any position, no matter how outrageous, can be sophistically argued. Yet another proof of Dr. Goebbels' statement to the effect that the bigger the lie, the easier it is to believe. Add to it that if you really want to believe something, nothing will keep you from believing it, because it's impossible to prove a negative.
     
  7. FatFreddy

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    when that footage was taken, they were supposed to be halfway to the moon. There would be micro-gravity there but not the one sixth earth gravity of the moon.

    The movement of the corner of Collins' jacket in this video is consistent with its being in strong gravity.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fqdB1b53jc
    (00:52 time mark)

    Compare the movement of Collins' jacket corner fo the movement of the jacket corners in this clip.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTNGNW5Evs4

    The corners move exactly the way the corner of Collins' jacket moves.

    Look at the way the straps attached to this astronaut's waist move.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ofwzby1c7o
    (3:17 time mark)

    Just before she starts moving they are not hanging at her sides the way Collins' jacket corner does. They are floating. They also have no tendency do go downward when she's jogging in place the way Collins' jacket corner does.

    Look what happens at the 00:08 time mark in this video.
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TejsnPThmd4

    They weren't halfway to the moon when that footage was taken.
     
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  9. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    Wtf just happened? How does this zombie thread come back?

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  10. unluckyluciano

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    I think mythbusters can be a little bit lame at times and odd with their experiments. I for one can't stand the show.
     
  11. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    After a year and a half of research, freddy returned to settle this once and for all.






















    And failed.
     
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  12. Vengeful Odin

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    [video=youtube;-f_DPrSEOEo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f_DPrSEOEo[/video]
     
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  13. unifiedtheory

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    This is REALLY a topic? The government can't keep a secret for a ****ing day. 40+ years? Take off the tinfoil hat and get some fresh air.
     
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  14. FatFreddy

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    They haven't been able to keep the secret. The info is out.

    They do have complete control over the mainstream press and science journals though. They can also find lots of scientists willing to lie for them. Here's some info on that.
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    [TD="class: yiv1596867462yui_3_2_0_19_131360083736056 yiv1596867462ms__id953 yiv1596867462yui_3_2_0_18_1314647326870102"]At about the 30 minute mark of this video a scientist says that science fraud is common.
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3626298989248030643#

    Scientists at the Rand Corporation say that depleted uranium is safe.
    http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/docs/b04151999_bt170-99.htm

    There are other scientists who say the opposite.
    http://www.google.es/search?q=depleted uranium&tbs=vid:1

    It's clear that the government can find scientists willing to sell out and lie.

    Here's a scientists who say that it's impossible to get something published in a science journal if it goes against the official version.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bAE7FGdNmA
    (00:16 time mark)

    This means that if there's a scientist who thinks they never went to the moon, he'd have a hard time getting his opinion known.

    If someone tried to blow the whistle, the press would ignore him or her.
    http://www.thismodernworld.org/arc/1993/93short-attention-span.gif
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=chomsky+media&aq=f
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=Wi5h3vZl6uo
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=William+Schaap++-+The+Media,+CIA,+FBI+&+Disinfo.+&aq=f
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/MediaControl_Chomsky.html
    http://www.chomsky.info/articles/199710--.htm
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/media_watch.html
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Propaganda/Propaganda_page.html
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media_control_propaganda/Media_Control.html
    http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/official_culture.htm
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=trWcqxrQgcc
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Herman /Propaganda_System_One.html

    Here's some evidence that it might even be downright dangerous to try to come forward with the truth.
    http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfYBJFPuiwE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipKyUVuQ2Uk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvay28lZiHU

    We are lied to about history.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145531
    http://www.politicalforum.com/history-past-politicians/149071-american-imperialism.html


    http://theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com/posts/28159
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    Q: Why do prominent astronomers like Sir Bernard Lovell and Patrick Moore support the Moon landings if they were faked?

    A: Scientists and astronomers around the globe know full well that the Moon missions were faked, but rely on NASA to gain access to the vital data beamed back to Earth from the Hubble space telescope. They cannot slag off NASA otherwise NASA would deprive them of this essential information, which they so much require.
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    Q: What about the vast number of people involved in Apollo, wouldn’t someone have spoken out.

    A: Pan’s claim there were half a million people involved in the Apollo program, but that includes all the humble engineers working on machine parts in many companies around the globe. So if someone is making a part in some engineering factory in Seattle, and his boss tells him it’s for the Apollo spacecraft, is that engineer proof the landings took place? No of course it is not proof, and even if that engineer knew they never made it to the Moon, he would still brag to his friends that he made a part that went to the Moon just to make him feel proud in some way or other. Parts for the Apollo program were made at many different factories around the globe. For example the laser reflector supposedly left on the Moon was manufactured in France. NASA collected the unit from the French company, and that was the last they saw of it. It’s probably stashed away in some archive at Langley, but one things for certain it’s not on the Moon. Are those French engineers proof they landed on the Moon? No of course not, as very few, (probably less than 200 people), were actually involved in bringing the whole lot together, so as to minimize what was actually taking place. No need for any of them to speak out because (A) They are 100% patriotic to the USA, and would say nothing that would go against America, even if it were true. (B) They do not need millions of dollars to safeguard their future, as they have already received substantial amounts from NASA just to “keep mum”. Read comments from people who worked on the Apollo program in the APOLLO FEEDBACK section.
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  15. muscle979

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    The government has complete control of the mainstream press? That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
     
  16. Pandarilla

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    I spent a night reading about the evidence for a faked moon landing.

    The two greatest points were that:

    1) They took way too many pictures for the allotment of time spent on the surface.

    2) The actual space suit does not fit through the cabin opening on the Apollo spacecraft on display(pffft! LOL...it's true)
     
  17. Two Tacos

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    Suit did, suit and air back pack thingy didn't. Which is why the back packs were stored in the lander.

    http://www.xmission.com/~jwindley/lmdoors.html




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    Not only would the russians have been all over us if we faked it, surely to god we would have reviewed and edited all the "questionable" scenes out, such as the flag waiving before making the videos public.
     
  19. Frumundah Finnatic

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    Lebron never went to Miami, that too is a hoax.
     
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  20. FatFreddy

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    You're assuming that what we were reading reflected what what really happening. Who knows what was really going on behind the scenes?
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=moonfaker+cold+war&aq=f

    http://www.nardwuar.com/vs/bill_kaysing/index.html
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    Well, why did they keep faking the Apollo flights, I still don't understand. Did the Soviet Union know it was faked? Why did they keep shut up if they knew it was faked? 'Cause a lot of people would think they kept the moon race going to prove the U.S. was better than the Soviet Union. If the Soviet Union knew, why did they let the U.S. get away with this?
    Well, I'll tell you - at the highest levels there is a coalition between governments. In other words, the Soviets said, if you won't tell on us - and they faked most of their space exploration flights - we won't tell on you. It's as simple as that. See, what Apollo is, is the beginning of the end of the ability of the government to hoodwink and bamboozle and manipulate the people. More and more people are becoming aware in the U.S. that the government is totally and completely public enemy number one.
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    http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm
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    The Soviets, with their own competing moon program and an intense economic and political and military rivalry with the USA, could be expected to have cried foul if the USA tried to fake a Moon landing. Theorist Ralph Rene responds that shortly after the alleged Moon landings, the USA silently started shipping hundreds of thousands of tons of grain as humanitarian aid to the allegedly starving USSR. He views this as evidence of a cover-up, the grain being the price of silence. (The Soviet Union in fact had its own Moon program).
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    Noam Chomsky's analysis of the cold war-
    http://www3.niu.edu/~td0raf1/history468/apr2304.htm
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    On the domestic front, the Cold War helped the Soviet Union entrench its military-bureaucratic ruling class in power, and it gave the US a way to compel its population to subsidise high-tech industry. It isn't easy to sell all that to the domestic populations. The technique used was the old stand-by-fear of a great enemy.
     
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    Fat Freddy what are your stances on 911, JFK, UFO's, and Bigfoot.
     
  22. FatFreddy

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    I think 9/11 was an inside job. I started a thread on that.
    http://www.thephins.com/forums/show...-Planned-and-Carried-Out-by-the-US-Government

    I haven't done that much investigation on the Kennedy issue but I've seen some suspicious stuff such as this.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY02Qkuc_f8

    I would bet that the Bilderberg group had him bumped off because he wanted to end the war in Vietnam.

    Enter "Bilderberg" in this search engine...
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/htdig/search.html

    ...and do searches on it in YouTube an GoolgeVideo.

    I have no opinion on Bigfoot or UFO's but I believe we should have neither an a priori incredulity, nor a naive willingness to believe when it comes to issues such as those.
     
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  26. FatFreddy

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    http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1222
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    Distraction by voluminous postings with no information by blowhards and empty name-callers. (Can be hard to distinguish from genuine blowhards.) People who wallow in the mud do not need to outdebate you; they only need to drag you down there with them. Kill files can help if your newsreader has them.
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  27. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    This mofo never quits.
     
  28. Pandarilla

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    There was also a picture of tire tracks beside the module before the lunar buggy was even assembled...

    Don't know who really gives a crap whether or not we landed on the moon, but plenty of websites giving enough contradictory info to waste a few days on...

    and oh yeah, ervybody knows 9/11 was bs.
     
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    I've been away for a while but I found some new stuff to post so I figured I'd come back.

    This video shows that the flag is moving much faster than it would in lunar gravity.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgUncG26MMA

    This shows that the flags were moving the way they would in air.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yc2rVOs00
    (00:50 and 1:50 time marks)

    This is pretty good.
    http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm

    Here's a link to some other info.
    http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3067
     
  30. CashInFist

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    We don't have probes on Mars either, right? LOL
     
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    FatFreddy has been banned so you will not be getting an answer.
     
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