he had a yr off and could be motivated tto prove he still can play..
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Parcells would make Plummer cry
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I think we need to bring in a vet.
Get rid of Lemon because he's just horrible.
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I would bring him in for a shot. The things he did, he did very well..and he has to be better than Cleo.
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Scheme wise hes a WCO guy.
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I think if he quits (which he did) he needs to be out for a whole year (which he was) in order for him to become a FA again (I think).
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Kindve. That is what they tried to teach him in Denver..which is probably why it didnt work so well.
At Arizona State he actually ran a LOT of 4 wide with RB sets. Not shotgun but under center.
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morning guys and girls..i finally decided to register as the chat room and fh don't seem to be coming back any time soon..good luck and godspeed to those working on it.
with that said i believe you are right about plummer still being apart of the bucs roster but also keep in mind i believe they have like 5-7 qb's on that roster so someone is gonna have to be let go.
i have never been a fan of plummer partly due to seeing him play alot for denver as in-laws are bronc fans. i don't like his decision making skills at times and his inconsistancy..while i agree he might be better than lemon at this point we might have to ante up a pick for him and if we are going that route(giving up a pick to bring in a vet) there are a few names i would like to have more. volek is one guy i have been interested in since his days with the titans. collins from washington is also a guy i wouldn't mind bringing in for a yr or 2 maybe even chris simms as he could be one of the guys on that bucs roster that is let go and it wouldn't cost us a pick.
i have not lost faith in beck being our guy going into the 08 season with a little more time in practice and a much better coaching staff he could turn out to be just what we need.
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Good to have you MINO...btw, rumor has it that FH is well on its way to being back...but you might have to search in here for more up-to-date news.
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welcome back mino.
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thanks azfinfan..i have high hopes you are right about fh and as far as volek goes im afraid you are right as well. there is no way he gets cut and i am not for giving up a pick for another qb unless it is in the draft and a later round. but if the fo decides to trade for a qb i wouldnt mind it being volek..there's really nobody out there fa wise i would want. boy i wish we couldve landed schaub last yr.
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thats excellent news. i have been debating on becoming a vip member since i first signed up at fh but before i could..well. this may not be the place for asking but im not sure where to ask but what do you get for signing up? i know they used to give a free cap or something among other things..are they still doing stuff like that for new vip members?
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I think before bringing in any FA QB we need to evaluate them based on their most recent play. Not how they used to play or how they might play. This has been our mistake over the past few seasons. Let's not make it again in a retread like Plummer. It would be another disaster.
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yes..we also must give them the best oppurtunity to succeed. hopefully the new fo/coaching staff will be eager to do so. i'm reminded of how the org handeled brian griese coming in then throwing him out there 2 days after he got here without having the oppurtunity to get some timing down with the recievers,getting comfortable with the line(specially the center). the poor guy hadn't even gotten his playbook yet and he was thrown to the wolfes. then when he didn't have a great game they put fielder back in after a game and a half. some of this happened this year with lemon and beck. it's time we have people making smart decisions and sticking with it.
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He is Tampa's property, you want to trade for him????
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Let me think about that...... NO
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yes he didn't play till week 8 but i vaguley remember us not getting him in here till week 6 which imo is throwing him to the wolves. his first game in he looked fairly decent. his very next game was the washington monday nighter where fiedler came off the bench hot in the fourth quarter and led us to a comeback win and that was the last we saw of griese.
it seemed to me griese never got a fair shake to really compete here. i don't remember hearing about griese getting the reps he needed for it to really be a fair competition. just like the fair competiton when fielder came in to compete and was outplayed in preseason yet still got the job. -
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thanks for the link..i really did think we picked him up during the reg..season and i stand corrected.
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Doesnt matter to me who is holding the clipboard, if you want it to be him so be it, doubt he is worth what it takes to get him for simply holding the clipboard with his hat on backwards.
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Holy smokes! Wade Smith was terrible. Absolutely horrible!!!!!
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Griese won the Green Bay game with a 34 yard TD bomb to his TE with 2 minutes left in the 4th quarter, that score being the difference. Hester didn't produce much that game. Also won the Philadelphia game 19-16 with a 15 yard TD pass to Mushin Muhammad with 9 seconds on the clock in a hostile Lincoln Financial Field. No Hester in sight. Nearly beat or at least tied the Viks had the defense been able to prevent a last second FG with an 81 yard TD pass to Hester after a consecutive 33 yard TD pass to Mushin less than a minute before with roughly 1 and a half minutes left.Last edited: Jan 14, 2008 -
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Jake PLummer sucks. Athletic as hell but he's like a horse that can't be contained. He's going to fumble and throw picks regardless of how hard anyone tries to coach it out of him.
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