What does this incredibly deserving, defensiive victory mean?

I think of it as having your own Dominmatrix without the cost involved..it hurts so good..

 

I agree that he did a great job yesterday, but do you trust him to stay healthy enough to stay on the field? And do you feel that he creates enough TOs to help make up for the lack of TOs from our secondary? He's the only position that I can see is upgradable as far as providing us more INTs and FFs. Maybe I'm just partial to grabbing Herzlich for a few $million and using Crowder's money to pay McD.

 

Good point.... if he's not cut, we'd still owe him the remainder of his salary correct? yeah, that's not worth it. He should be paying us to allow Wake to help him develop a career.

 

I do agree that he doesn't provide many INTS or FF, he does help the rushing defense to be better. On a consistant basis the defense is 20 to 30 yards better a game with him in.

Unfortunately he doesn't stay healthy. Also unfortunately unless they are going to replace him with Edds or Dobbins, any other replacement wouldn't save enough money to pay McD.

 

I could agree with the dominatrix part..... but I'm not sure the QB version would "hurt so good". That would just hurt..... period. That's not the fun kind of nipple twisting I look forward to.

 

I agree on all points.... although using a 3rd rounder on Mark Herzlich would save us $3.5 million/year. Mark is the ONLY guy on my radar right now to replace Crowder with. I guess the only question is how much you (or the organization) likes Herzlich.

 

"We are in easy FG range, just don't turn the ball over..henne fumbles the football...slap slap slap...thank you mistress may I please have some more"?

 

LJames paired with a big back would be awesome!!..... especially if he could fall to the 3rd. Do you think Garner can lock down the RT spot? We'd still need to find a quality back-up b/c what we have clearly doesn't cut it.

Mankins........ Justin Blackmon........ LJames...... Michael Bush....... Zach Miller..... Greg Little. How would you like our offense with that in the offseason?

 

Not by me he won't. Not gonna happen.

 

the safe word's touchdown.

 

Yep most Sundays in the Fall at about 1pm...who needs whips and gags when we have the Dolphins Qb play?

 

I don't think it's reasonable to expect a MLB to create TOs to compensate for your secondary. If your goal is TOs from the secondary then you upgrade in the secondary. And no, I can't say I trust him to stay healthy. For me it would depend on his contract. I would want my #2 ILB to be pretty low contract wise. #2 ILB and SOLB are two positions you can usually get by with paying less to.

 

I'm not expecting an MLB to create TOs to compensate for the secondary. I'm looking for an MLB who will compensate for our lack or TOs in general.... and I don't have to tell you that LBs make picks from time to time. LOL.

If we have an opportunity to make more picks, then I'm not going to ignore it on the basis that "all" picks should come from the secondary. Herzlich has 11 picks at BC, so if he can give us a few, then that's a few more than we currently have. As long as we get more picks and TOs, then I'm not discriminatory as to where they come from. Are you? We're also near the bottom of the league in FF turnovers. That doesn't fall on the secondary.

 

Maybe he can slip to the late 2nd round like LeSean McCoy did and we can trade up our 3rd for him.

I'd hate to lose out on Blackmon, but I'd be pretty damn happy with Mankins, Miller, James, Little, and maybe Herzlich or DeAndre McDaniel in the 3rd. Actually, if you have your heart set on James, we could probably trade back and pick up a 2nd and still get him. So who would you like with this "hypothetical" 2nd?

What's up with all these damn multiple upper case names?!! lol.

Who do you like for our "big" back to compliment James?

 

GMJohnson;1361932]Priority number 1 this off season = Running Back. I'm with DJ. Henne's not turning into Tom Brady anytime soon so we're going to have to rely on the run game & I don't think we can afford to risk not having a top tier RB come 2011. I actually like Ryan Williams' explosiveness and versatility over Ingram's power and toughness. He kinda reminds me of Deangelo Williams, lots of speed and quickness, but enough power to run through arm tackles. I think we can find a bruiser later in the draft or in FA, but we need a dynamic play maker type for Henne to hand off to first and foremost. I'm sick of seeing Ronnie and Ricky go untouched into the 2nd level only to get stopped for a 7 yd gain. it's bad enough that our OL isn't a dominant group, but when they do create holes our backs aren't doing anything with them

 

Depending on free agency, which is dependent on whether we have a football season or not, I think we draft a stud offensive linemen in the first. Hopefully we trade down but if we get a shot at OT Demarcus Love who can play ROT or OG or Mike Pouncey who can solve our C or OG problems I think we go that way. If we get Logan Mankins then I think we couple that with Mike Pouncey and now we have an offensive line of Jake Long, Logan Mankins, Mike Pouncey, John Jerry (or Incognito) and Vernon Carey. If we dont get Mankins then I think we go with Demarcus Love and play him at Guard next to Jake

 

I agree to an extent. IMO getting a playmaker at WR/TE is as important as getting a great back. I'd be all for grabbing Blackmon and then trading up our 3rd for Williams...... but I'd still go back to the well for for Greg Little only b/c I like his upside too much.

It drove me nuts to see us use our 7th on garbage when Blount was sitting there for the picking. I can't believe that wasn't a no brainer. We'd only need a COP back right now to compliment him.

 

That's one option that I like too. Trading Carey for a 3rd. Trading back our 1st for an extra 2nd and grabbing a stud RT in the process. It might even be worth trading next year's 1st for Wisniewski if he fell to the 2nd. Sign Mankins too. Our 2nd could be used on Ryan Williams. 3rd on Greg Little. pick up Mankins and Zach Miller/Scheffler in FA.
This is a year that I'd like to trade next year's 1st for a position of need that we can't get in FA or the 1st round.

 

Blount was a UDFA and waived by the Titans, point being if you have good oline play backs like him are a dime o' dozen.

For example Anthony Dixon was a 7th rd pick.

 

That sounds like a good philosophy to me.

How would you feel about Mankins, Ryan Kalil, Owen Daniels, and DeAngelo Williams in FA? Trade Carey for a 3rd. Then trade back our first. And then see a draft with Rahim Moore & DeAndre McDaniel as Safety, Mark Herzlich replacing CC, and Greg Little?? We could even trade a future 1st for a stud RT.

I'm trying to think about ways to take this defense over the top into holy s#!t land!!! I'd like to see 2 guys back deep who can make a basket of picks when our Dline is pounding QBs and shutting down run games. With that kind of D, we wouldn't need to score many points b/c our D could dictate games and do exactly what we saw in the 1st qtr verse the Jets--- lots of turnovers and short field scoring opportunities.

 

I didn't think Blount was UDFA talent. I thought he was 3rd-4th round talent.... so I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder.

 

He was also a 2nd good season away from being a lower 1st and 2nd round talent. That punch cost him a lot of money.

 

Big backs who do not run really well are all over the place is my point TP, in fact I'd bet Ireland has a good handle on who is where and what their status is..only dummy teams like the Cowpokes give them huge contracts..the wheels can come off at any time with them..

 

good point. I completely agree. I thought he was a steal personally. That punch is the best thing that could've happened to him IMO. He's evolved into the kind of guy who I'd love to say is on my team.

 

I agree with ya that they're all over the place, but personally I thought the kid was special. Dwyer did plumet to the 6th, but the jury is still out on him, althought he did have a nice preseason showing from what I remember. Hopefully there will be a Blount next year to free up our early picks.

 

Dwyer! That's him, I could recall Scott but not Dwyer.

Thanks for that one!

That is sort of my point, not that I would mind Ingram mind you, I just think unless the RB is Tomlinson special we have far to many holes to patch on the Oline and at Te to use the #1 pick on a Running Back who fits our needs, heck for all we know Lexxy could play the power back, he is already filling in for Polite at FB.

 

i wouldnt draft wisnieski. we are a in 3-4 division and I'm not sure he has enough power. Pouncey is the guy I would target as a center. Wisnieski would be good for a division that plays 4-3 defenses

 

What about Nate Garner? Couldn't he play center?

 

You didn't like Nate Garner remember

 

I agree 100%..... especially about the LT type talent reference. IIRC I'm already on record for saying that I believe Lex could run for 1000 yards if he's ever given a chance. I could very well eat crow for that one, but I'd like to be proven wrong rather than not be proven at all. LOL.

I'd be fine with picking up a good COP back in the top 3 rounds and then grab a big back <if necessary> later on to compete with Lex. (or even go after DeAngelo Williams to pair with Lex.... but I'm not sure I would want to take money away from a guy like Mankins, Soliai, McD, Owen Daniels/Miller/Scheffler, or even Ryan Kalil for Williams.) It's ironic that Houston used a 2nd on Ben Tate only to have Foster blow up this season. Wonder if Tate's fully recovered and if he could be gotten for cheap?

Oh, you're welcome by the way.

 

good point.... although I'm curious how much amazing technique combined with proper leverage impacts it? He's up the 305 now. Grove got some nice push at that size. I'm not sure the answer; just throwing questions out there. Ryan Kalil would definitely be too small then.

 

I would think he's too tall to play center no?

 

I agree about the TE and G in FA. I'd like these 2 positions to be seasoned and ready to go. The only thing close that I'd consider is if Kyle Rudolph is sitting there in the middle second round and we couldn't grab anyone good in FA.... then I'd think about using a future 1st on him.... but that would be more of a last resort solution for me.

 

how about mike tolbert. i dont think san diego has extended him and they drafted ryan matthews. getting tolbert might be similar to the falcons getting michael turner

 

I wouldn't be upset with that at all. I love the kid's determination. He'd fit in well on this team. LaMichael James, Tolbert, and Lex would be fine with me to keep from having to use a 1st on a RB. no offense Deej.