What if Z.Martin, E.Ebron, CJ Mosley arent there @ 19 ?

"th3_4th_son wrote:

What would you do considering all the depth in this draft? ...

at that point I'd guess the pick to be Morgan Moses.

That'd mean someone really good fell to 19.

assuming T.lewan is also gone........I agree though id love to trade back

Ebron.

Mosley
If an OT falls to your 2nd pick him. If not you can address both OG and OT in rss 3-5 plus the addition of either club or mickinnie at RT.

Would allow us a luxury pick in the 2nd...Niklas?...Mason?...Cooks?...Robinson? Or ANYBODY who falls

Shazier or Cooks

If those three guys are gone as stated...someone fell.

You have to hope the four QBs go ahead of us...Teddy, Bortles, Carr, Manziel. Then you have other locks like Watkins, Robinson, Matthews, Lewan, Clowney, Aaron.

So I named 10....if your three go that is 13. That isn't counting teams that will reach for "their guy" as always.

Someone worthy will be there.

I think the teams may have a bit of collusion like last year. Let the qbs drop and pick them up later. Spend the early picks on playmakers. I'd say the browns are most likely to trade down, they have 2 picks, never attended a top 3 qb pro day (smokescreen? perhaps, or maybe they do want Carr). Could we be aggressive and trade up? Maybe, just maybe Robinson is still there. Certainly Matthews. That's 2 great talents there. Our line is then looking pretty tough. I know the consensus seems to be to trade down but you have to imagine most teams are thinking the same so perhaps the trade up price drops?

Had to re-read the OP's question. Thought it read what if "what if Z.Martin, E.Ebron, CJ Mosley are there @ 19?" In which case, my immediate answer is Ebron. But, if all are already off the board, and assuming Evans and Lewan are all also gone, I'd say either Cooks or try and trade back.

I'd be inclined to take an impact player, difference maker at TE or LB rather than the 4th or 5th option at OL. I know Martin projects to RT or OG rather than LT but an impact player at MLB could close the gap we saw in our run defense last year and make this defense elite again. An impact player at TE gives RTH a legitimate red zone threat and a safety valve when he's under pressure. I also believe you can find good value OL picks in the 2nd through 5th rounds.

Huron still on the board?

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Brandin Cooks

Hopefully it means we traded up for Ebron. :shifty:

"byroan wrote:

Hopefully it means we traded up for Ebron. :shifty:

If you want a speed, athletic TE I'd rather go late in the draft with AC Leonard than trade up for Ebron.

"jim1 wrote:

If you want a speed, athletic TE I'd rather go late in the draft with AC Leonard than trade up for Ebron.

Are you saying you wd rather have Leonard than Ebron? I'd rather Niklas than Leonard, Ebron before anyone else at TE.

Teddy Bridgewater, Blake Bortles, Brandin Cooks, Allen Robinson, Jace Amaro, Morgan Moses, Kony Ealy, Ra'Shede Hageman, Timmy Jernigan, Ryan Shazier, Kyle Fuller, Jason Verrett, Deone Buchanon and Terrence Brooks would all make acceptable picks at the spot.

I could also be persuaded to forgive the selection of Tre Mason, Lache Seastrunk, Xavier Su'a-Filo, Stephon Tuitt, Hasean Clinton-Dix and perhaps Bradley Robey (still more work to do on him).

Ryan Shazier
Brandin Cooks
Morgan Moses
C.J. Mosley
Timmy Jernigan

Those would make me fist-pump.

I'd be pretty happy with the rest of Chris' list as well, if not one of the five I've listed, though admittedly I haven't seen much of Buchanon or Brooks.

The very best picks from among those discussed are somewhere around Bridgewater, the receivers Cooks & Robinson, Fuller and perhaps Shazier. Probably the highest rated player I have at the pick is Fuller.

"Limbo wrote:

That'd mean someone really good fell to 19.

Not really. It would likely mean the QBs fell. Which is a good chance. I've been thinking this could happen for a week or so. I think teams are not willing to take risks on these QBs and that a few of them will fall. That hurts Miami in filling our needs. The best thing that could happen is for all first round potential QBs to be drafted before 19. Not likely though.

But the other possibility is that if the QBs drop and top shelf players we need go ahead of us, that one or two teams could be looking to trade up and we could get extra picks. If this draft is as deep as people are saying (I really don't know because I haven't looked carefully at it) then that could be a real positive even if Miami misses out on a top rated player.

Personally, while Mosley may be the best MLB in the draft, I just don't see him as a Patrick Willis type. If he is, great. But while he is talented he just does not seem dominant to me. And was surrounded by a lot of other talent. I would hope for the best if we took him but I am not sold on him being a great player. Maybe I'm wrong. If we take him then I hope I am! :)

The more I think about it, if we can't get either Evans, G. Robinson, Mosley or Shazier, I'm hoping for a trade-down.

Any player that makes the offense more dynamic.

Cooks would be a nice pick, but I would rather see them take a big bodied WR. Jordan Matthews seems like a great fit in both his skill set and work ethic. Some say he is a second round pick but I doubt he would be there in the middle of round 2. It's hard to believe that I guy with his size, production, combine numbers, work ethic, and lack of a good QB in college wouldn't have him ranked higher.

I would not complain if we took Benjamin, Robinson, or Mason either. Mason is another player that I would expect to be ranked higher. Everything you would want in a RB and he runs hard.

Jordan Matthews at the moment is fixing to be available in the 3rd round.

There's no way he goes 1st round.

"ckparrothead wrote:

Jordan Matthews at the moment is fixing to be available in the 3rd round.

There's no way he goes 1st round.

one or the other in the 2nd...Niklas or4 WR Robinson?

Niklas could help blocking and a BIG target, Robinsob is just nice

"jim1 wrote:

If you want a speed, athletic TE I'd rather go late in the draft with AC Leonard than trade up for Ebron.

No, I'd rather have Ebron.