What is Gibril Wilson's true value?

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  1. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    You know it's interesting. Before last season, he was a well thought of safety... a strong safety. He came over from the Raiders and before that the Super Bowl Giants. They tried to keep him, but Oakland offered more than they could afford. It was believed to be a good pickup for the Raiders. Yet, it's the Raiders. Where the black hole is more than just an endzone name... it's what players fall into and all of a sudden their careers are in jeopardy. Enter the Miami Dolphins. He was expected to pair with Yeremiah Bell and provide a hard hitting duo unlike any other in the league. Problem was, we ended up with two rookie corners having to start and the aggression that was predicted fell to the need of having to protect against the big play. It was the Saints game where we lost Will Allen for the year. And so, Gibril Wilson had to play deeper than he wanted to. He was already playing out of position and now he was pushed further out of position.

    But yet, lets look at his historical stats throughout his career:

    Gibril Wilson turns 29 this year. He has 592 tackles over his six year career, averaging almost 100 tackles per season. He has missed only three games in the last five years. Durable, productive, starter.

    2009 - 93 tackles - 13th among DB"s in the NFL
    2008 - 129 tackles - 1st among DB's in the NFL
    2007 - 92 tackles - 9th among DB's in the NFL
    2006 - 100 tackles - 8th among DB's in the NFL
    2005 - 112 tackles - 2nd among DB's in the NFL

    Based on tackles alone, he is a top 10 safety in this league over the last five years. His liability is in coverage. Which speaks to why he should not be lining up as a free safety. The guy is a strong safety. A tackling machine. Hence, my problem. We have two strong safeties. Gibril is making $900k on the cap. Yeremiah is making $2.55m on the cap. I can only keep one. I've had fair offers for Yeremiah. I've had some not so fair offers for Gibril. I feel he is worth more. Sometimes life is about taking risks. This is not one of those occassions. There is no risk in trading for Gibril IF you play him at strong safety. Step up to the plate if you dare.
     
  2. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    how many missed tackles? probably #1 in that too.
     
  3. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    according to PFF and it's the only source I have on that stat... he tied for 24th in the NFL in missed tackles by safeties. Ranking WORSE than him (btw he had 9 missed tackles according to them) were such notables as:

    Antrelle Rolle
    Michael Griffin
    Laron Landry
    Quintin Mikell (yours btw Gish)
    Jim Leonhard
    Brian Dawkins
    Brandon Meriweather
    Darren Sharper
    Antoine Bethea
    Dawan Landry

    They each had more missed tackles than Gibril
     
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  4. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I think Meriweather had even more blown assignments than tackles. Most of the guys listed above don't surprise me though.
     
  5. GISH

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    interesting.
     
  6. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    of course, we as Dolfans remember EACH ONE of those missed tackles... each one ripped at our heart. Yet, how did the rest of the defense do?
     
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    alen1 New Member

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    Pretty ****ty, unfortunately.
     
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  8. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't take into account bad angles and late jumps..I wouldnt mind Wilson at S if the price is right, but realistically, he's not worth much.
     
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  9. Stitches

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    I'd offer a 6th for Wilson.
     
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  10. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Yeah, the NFL Coverage rating over at PFF really exposes those safeties that are poor in coverage. Gibril opposing QB rating was 94.7. That's bad... But, there were much worse... 30 safeties in total had worse ratings than that. Just speaks to him NOT being a free safety IMO.
     
  11. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    hey stitches... I do have a better offer than that. Two better offers as a matter of fact. However, I want even more, I'm greedy. But I'm honest! :up:
     
  12. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Well he's better than anyone you could conceivably get in the 6th. Hence my offer. :tongue2:
     
  13. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    I'll send you the 6th that you sent me in the Zuttah trade.
     
  14. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    reverse logic won't work on me... :pointlol:
     
  15. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    didn't mean to turn this into an auction thread... PM me your offers though. :yes:
     
  16. Boik14

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    round5-pick 31
     
  17. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    wow, you're really short on safeties at the moment...
     
  18. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I can always slap an RFA tender on Bullitt if I need to and slide sanders to Free Safety. Plus I have 8 picks in the first 5 rounds and 20M in cap space.
     
  19. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    yet you're bidding a fifth round pick on Gibril.
     
  20. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Keep him then... I'm sorry that you can't get what you want out of some players...
     
  21. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    You know why already :)
     
  22. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    you should apologize for lowering your offer... :shifty:
     
  23. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Shouldda taken the offer while I wasn't thinking clearly. :tongue2:
     
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  24. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    haha... no i believe you said you "had to check with your co gm"... story of my life..
     
  25. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    at least he didnt say he had to check with his wife :pointlol:
     
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  26. Paul 13

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    naa he's too young for that... :shifty:
     
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  27. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Youre right. Maybe he has to check with his mommy? :tongue2:
     
  28. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    I can legally drink now so those jokes can direct towards other guys like alen... and Alex... and BK.
     
  29. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    ironic that two of those three have co gms...
     
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  30. GISH

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    go drink 20 shots. then meet me on AIM. we got some tradin to do.
     
  31. alen1

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    Dammitt. Why me? Why God, why?
     

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