Ross won't be paying. He's already sunk enough money into the team/stadium. At this rate he'll be looking to sell and just trying to break even on the sale.

Next steps are new owner and billion dollar new stadium showdown.

 

Ross has said that he is not threaten relocation. Dee said Ross won't move the team, with that said, Ross may have to sell the team, and what that owner does is up to him. Personally I hope Ross stays owner of this team for a long time. He has been good with staying away from the football aspect. I am worried that a new owner would be a Jerry Jones type

 

There is no next move. Ross will sell the team at some point and the new owner will either get a new stadium or move the team.

 

I really have no beef in this fight. I could really care less what happens with the stadium.

 

Should. More revenue means more spending in free agency. Honestly, I could see the free agent belt tightening for the next few years for Ross to get some profits in before selling.

 

It's not that simple. Read the CBA.

Oh, and the Dolphins get most of their money from the money that ESPN, NBC, CBS, and FOX pay to air NFL games. Gate receipts are maybe half of the salary cap. The Dolphins do not have a revenue issue, and they can't really cut spending because the CBA defines how much money they have to spend. They're also stuck with all those contracts that Ireland handed out, so it's not as if they can tighten the belt any time soon.

Ross can't do what the Glazers did a couple of years ago.

 

It is quite that simple. Why else do you think Jerry down there in Dallas has his palace. The difference in earning from a Dallas to a Cincinnati can still be in the ballpark of $50 million a year. The newest CBA closed the gap a bit in that but the realities still persist. What Miami has is a significant debt load that can't be ignored that is cutting into profits. It's why Ross has to rely on public funding because the rules outright state he can't put that much of his own money in because of rules concerning NFL debt.

That ceiling floor is for ALL NFL teams. Hence why there are teams out there with $25 million + in cap room right now and is based over a 4 year window. Ross can certainly cut down on the budget and do exactly what we did last year in terms of FA for next year and the year after. I would not expect a FA like this past year ever again while Ross is in charge of the team.

 

Its named Farmers Field in downtown Los Angelos. Going to be a great place to watch the game of football

 

That's nice but just like the Cleveland Browns kept their name, the Los Angelos team won't be the Dolphins, so if you want to cheer for the LA Fairies, go right ahead. You don't see the Texans showing off Brown's history or Oilers history.

I'll be ready for the next owner to bring the Miami Dolphins back.

Oh and relocation isn't as easy as you think it is, the NFL has to vote on it and chances are, you won't get them to approve relocation from a city like Miami of all places to LA. That's just not going to happen.

 

The Arlington National Restaurant Mall and Football Mausoleum was planned, proposed, voted on, and worked on before the new CBA was ratified. They literally have nothing to do with each other; one did not enable the other. Arlington increased city taxes to pay for the ANRMFM (a total of $325M), the NFL kicked in $150M, and Jerry paid the rest including overruns for a total of $1.3 billion. The Cowboys entered the 2013 league year with $100,000 of salary cap space, and still had couch change with which to pay Tony Romo $108 million.

You have no idea what you're talking about here.

 

What is our next move? Kickstarter.















(kidding)

 

Dee said they will not proceed any further with the stadium renovations. Our next move is the team will likely be sold in the coming months.

 

Debt repayment is due soon. That is next notable issue. I don't think Ross sells within the next few years. Most likely we just hear a stream of rumors RE: potential buyers/new markets.

 

I think he sells by the end of this year.

 

Cleveland filed an injunction against Art Modell in order to keep that name.

Honestly do you see this happening if the Dolphins move? I don't.

A lot of wishful thinking on your part.

If this team isn't successful in the next 2 years I can see Ross selling.

 

Agree completely.

The NFL is not stupid enough to think it improves itself by supporting the move of a team from one of it's most cherished markets to a market it wants to be another strong market.
There is zero gain there. Not to mention LA hasn't exactly shown itself to be a solid gamble either having lost 2 NFL franchises already. Make all the excuses about why you want, bottom line is that the market failed to successfully support 2 teams already.

 

I am not going to get into some Shouright dick waving contest with you. Especially based on your response... you had no idea what I was referring to. Just seriously check into why teams like Buffalo & Cincinnati were the 2 teams who originally were against the prior CBA which led to the current CBA. It was all about the haves and have nots. Some of it was corrected in the current CBA. Some of it wasnt. And public money can still be a big factor in that. Along with the bonuses a nice new or upgraded facility brings. Even you have consistently said it was all about padding his bottom line.

Well he's not getting his bottom line padded now is he?

 

L.A. is just a threat teams use. Roger already slipped last year saying he wanted L.A. to be an expansion team. There are other places though.

The NFL doesn't move much....but rarely has it ever been challenged for public money. Sure there is time to resolve it...but the first stone has been thrown.

Chances are now that Ross sells and the county is going to have to pony up for a new stadium in the next decade. Hopefully the politicians wisen up. I am not a fan of teams moving either. And God help the Marlins if the Dolphins ever did all because of Loria's sour deal.

 

Ross would be an idiot to sell the team now. Are you crazy? The team is just not beginning to resurrect itself. You dont sell on the upswing....you sell when its worth the most.

 

The teams worth is not greatly affected by winning and losing.

 

Really?


I mean...Im not an expert, and Im not arguing your statement.

But, if a team is winning, wouldnt they be shown on prime time more often....and certainly if the team was winning, wouldnt we be selling more seats...etc?

 

Selling more tickets, yes. But that's not a lot of money in context. Being in primetime doesn't necessarily make the team more money. The problem is that buying a team that is currently winning doesn't provide any guarantees that winning will continue for the new owner. Winning in the NFL is pretty fickle.

 

Winning increases merchandise sales, ratings and attendance...all three of those things are 3 of 4 of the biggest ways teams make money.

 

you are basing on the Dolphins having an upswing. when in fact they haven't done anything yet, and everything roster wise is a pipe dream until they prove it on the field. New uniforms are nice but it mean nothing as far as "upswing" goes.
If this roster tanks and it looks like Ireland and Philbin are fired I can see Ross selling and not looking back.

 

Of course....the key part of that...is "if this roster tanks"...which means Ross sticks around long enough to find out one way or the other. My point is...we arent at that scenario now. Yes...I would agree...if this were the case...Ross would sell soon. But...why would he sell now...when it looks like we have the right coach...the QB...and "potentially" a team about to start winning again.

 

None of those are exempt from revenue sharing.

Ratings are split evenly.

NFL licensing is split among all 32 teams. The only thing the team keeps for itself is whatever is sold directly from the local pro-shop.

Home teams only keep 60% of their gate receipts. The other 40% goes into a revenue sharing pool. The only thing the team keeps outright is luxury suite sales. Miami had $56M of gate receipts last season. If they sold 100% of their tickets, that would be an additional $17M in revenue. They keep 60% of that (yes, when Ross buys empty seats he's essentially paying other owners so local fans can watch games). Which means 100% attendance would result in an additional $10M per season. Miami currently pays twice that much just on interest alone for the renovations Huizenga made.

The NFL has the most robust revenue sharing system of any pro sport. They make $4B a year just from TV contracts. There is room for teams to make some money, but not enough to change the fundamentals. The biggest fundamental economically for an NFL team is who is paying for their stadium. Pro shop sales are a drop in the bucket.