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What to do with the 1st round pick?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Finatik, Jan 30, 2024.

  1. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    But use the picks to pick a QB.
     
  2. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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  3. Aquapride

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    For his 4-years in a Dolphins uniform Tua has received $30 million, so he's already been paid.
     
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  4. Aquapride

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    I am advocating for the Dolphins to assemble a roster and coaching staff capable of actually winning playoff games and, or a Super Bowl victory.
     
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  5. Springveldt

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    Thankfully they are not listening to your ideas on what to do at the QB position.
     
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  6. Springveldt

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    So now we just ditch him and sign a cheap QB to take us to the promised land of playoffs wins and a Super Bowl?
     
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  7. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    lol...Vegas gives the Dolphins 5th or 6th best odds at winning the entire AFC and top 10 in odds to win the Super Bowl next year.

    I'm sure they're lying though because they love to lose money and do it all the time.

    if only they had Mac Jones or Justin Fields! They'd be odds on favorites for both things! lmao
     
  8. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    I don't care.
     
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  9. dolphin25

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    That is not at all what he said. He did however, say let him play on 5th year and then see what happens.
     
  10. dolphin25

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    Why is that smart? Now you have $$ committed to a QB that has not won you anything. Pay him the 5th year money and see what happens, then you can extend him out if he proves he can lead into the playoffs and beat good teams.
     
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  11. dolphin25

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    Preston Williams was a beast, really thought he was going to be a steal, and then they had him in on punt returns and he got injured. X was very high on him calling him a future number one. Heard weed really got ahold of him too.
     
  12. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Unless he plays exactly the same as he’s played the last two seasons and then you’re in a bidding war with other teams.


    It’s unreal.

    “Grier is stupid for not locking up Wilkins”

    “Grier is stupid for locking up a franchise QB”

    The absurdity is astonishing.
     
  13. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    If Wilkins showed us one thing, it's better to get the deal done and not roll the dice IMO. If Tua play just as good as he did last year he's a free agent if you don't Franchise tag him. Then what? Let him play another year or write an even bigger check.
     
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  14. danmarino

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    The Bills are stupid for locking up a QB that hasn’t won them anything. Lmao
     
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  15. Aquapride

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    Yes, the Bills have made a mistake overpaying for Josh Allen.
     
  16. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Convenient… lol… dumb, but convenient.

    There’s risks in every move. Not paying Allen would have been extremely dumb and negligent.
     
  17. Aquapride

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    Or, had Buffalo spread the Allen-money around to different positions, the Bills might have won a Super Bowl.
     
  18. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    No. They’ve had a top defense, oline, WR’s, and QB. What “talent” would have won them a SB?
     
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  19. The_Dark_Knight

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    Did Tua win those games last season, or did the Miami Dolphins?

    Did Tua lose those games, or did the Miami Dolphins?

    The Dolphins quarterback play last season was more than adequate to win more games than we actually did last season.

    It’s so easy to just point a finger to one person and blame him.

    Tua didn’t fail to stop the Buffalo Bills from scoring 48 points on us in October last season. The defense did.

    Tua didn’t fail to stop the hapless Titans from scoring 28 against us last season. The defense did. We were up 27-13 with 4:34 left in the game. I suppose the defense letting the Titans score 2 TDs that late in the game was all Tua’s fault.

    Tua didn’t fail to stop the Ravens from laying 56 points on us last season. The defense did.
     
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  20. Aquapride

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    I don't believe anybody is saying that Tua is a bad quarterback and, or was responsible for losing games.
     
  21. hitman8

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    He's won way more than Tua has, last I checked he's been a major part of them winning multiple playoff games and division titles, including beating our *** in the playoffs multiple times.
     
  22. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    So now you're just going to start making stuff up along with being wrong about nearly everything?

    A 1-0 record in the playoffs against the Dolphins, with the Dolphins playing with their 7th round rookie QB, a win by 3 points, BTW...is "multiple *** beatings" only in your deluded mind. lmao

    You're not a Dolphins fan. You're a troll. You don't realize what conference the Dolphins play in and now you're claiming that Allen has beat the Dolphins in multiple playoff games.
     
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  23. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    You believe wrong.

    And you don't think he's a bad QB but you want to replace him with Cooper Rush, Mac Jones, and Justin Fields. lmao
     
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  24. hitman8

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    Strawman BS, the usual from you. Ignore the point about Allen winning multiple playoff games and division titles while Tua has won none, and just focus on the fact Allen beat us in the playoffs 1 time instead of multiple times. He beat us last game of the season last year to win the division, then went on to win a playoff game. Allen has earned his money way more than Tua has, and he is pretty much a one man show on offense while Tua needs an all star track team and custome built system to hide his weaknesses and make him look good against ****ty teams.
     
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  25. The_Dark_Knight

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    Sir, when you are advocating signing a less than mediocre quarterback to start over Tua as a “bridge” to drafting Tua’s replacement, you are indeed saying just that.

    I’ve never used the term troll or any other belittling verbiage when discussing the Dolphins with those who have opposing viewpoints but with some of the outlandish statements you and others have made, I can understand why some do, although I don’t condone it.

    It astounds me with all of the items that are discussed from Ross to Grier to the exit of Fangio to injuries that at the end of the day many point their fingers at Tua and blame HIM for the losses we’ve had.

    Utterly illogical.
     
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  26. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    This post from you is Exhibit A as to how much you despise the Dolphins. No logic, lies, facts are all wrong. You’re literally lying and making stuff up.
     
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  27. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    There’s a big difference between opposing opinions and trolling. When a poster claims to be a Dolphins fan and then proceeds to prove they don’t even know what conference they play in or their playoff history over the past few years, and in fact just blatantly make stuff up, in order to make the team seem worse and their rivals seem better is just flat out trolling. Trolls will troll and they should be called out.
     
  28. Two Tacos

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    Peyton Manning's first play off game was in 2000, his 3rd year. He put up a 62 passer rating in a loss. He returned the next year and improved to a 82 in another loss, and followed that up the next year with a scorching 31 in his 3rd consecutive playoff loss 6 years into his career. Bum, right? Or, maybe cherry picking dumb stats is dumb. Who knows?
     
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  29. Aquapride

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    Yes, but only because the Dolphins have already given Tua 4-seasons , which is more than enough time to get playoff wins or a Super Bowl appearance.
     
  30. Aquapride

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    You seem to be ignoring the most relevant fact, which is that Tua is at the end of his rookie contract.
     
  31. Aquapride

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    Peyton Manning was in shape and had a tremendous work ethic.
     
  32. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    If you think any QB could have won anything on those teams, with the treatment he received, you’re more delusional than your posts make you out to be.

    Check out JA’s first playoff game. Check out 90% of all QB’s first playoff games. If you’re looking for the next Montana, Marino, or Brady… good luck. If you think throwing Tua away for one of the bums you’ve mentioned in the hopes of getting a better QB anytime in the near future… good luck.
     
  33. The_Dark_Knight

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    And?
     
  34. Aquapride

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    It's one thing to pay a QB on a rookie contract and it's an entirely different thing to pay a QB 25%+ of the payroll for the entire roster.
     
  35. The_Dark_Knight

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    I started writing out a long response, but discretion got the better part of me. As I was writing, it occurred to me you obviously know little about NFL salaries and how they are structured...so it would be an exercise in futility.

    Your posts have nothing more than the appearance of being anti-Tua...bottom line.
     
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  36. danmarino

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    Lmao

    What QB is making 25% of the entire payroll? Mahomes is at 14%, Allen is at 11%, and Burrow is at 11%.

    I’ve found that when people need hyperbole in order to further their argument they are either very doltish about the subject they are arguing or they’re just trying to p!ss people off.
     
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  37. Phin McCool

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    Welcome to the Madden(insert year here) generation. These are probably the same type who think they're top-drawer entrepreneurs and business people because they've built up a successful hotel chain in The Simms. :001_rolleyes:
     
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  38. Aquapride

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    When did "Pro Bowl QB" become the justification for overpaying for a QB? Derek Carr has been named to the Pro Bowl multiple times, has signed multiple long term hundred million plus dollar contracts, and there is little to no chance of him leading his team to playoff game victories.
     
  39. djphinfan

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    No because, imo, Flores felt he was being over ruled on what players should play and openly protested..

    I don’t blame him even though he had some flaws, he was handcuffed by the front office
     

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