Cap Hell....... I'm no Clump, but I think it's like 6+Mill in guarantees that would all be accelerated to this season.

 

i think your right i think if he was got the fins would be in a little bit of trouble

 

We would be in trouble, not to mention hes easily one of our best players on D at the moment. I think this season could change the opinion that many haters have of him.

 

i agree i thought joey played really well the second half people forget he had knee surgery before the year and he wasnt 100 percent

but yeah why would we caught one of our best players?

 

I think he might have just thrown that out hypothetically to see the effects on our salary cap.

 

His salary in 2008 is guaranteed...........$2 million of his 2009 salary is guaranteed.

I suspect he's with Miami through 2009 season

 

Yeah I think we're stuck with him for a bit.

 

I think "blessed" would be a better word to use here.

 

yea we better hurry up and get rid of ronnie, beck, ginn, carey, and allen too. wouldnt want to get stuck with any other good players ya kno.

 

I'm sorry but Porter was a huge reason why our defense was so poor early on. I think we would love to get rid of him but it just doesn't make sense salary cap wise. He's only going to get worse, his career is all downhill from here. Playing better as the season got more meaningless doesn't inspire me very much, sorry. Not to mention he's an idiot off the field and his mouth is pretty much the only thing in its prime right now.

 

Porter was played out of position early on.

 

Clumpy not to be disrespectful but if we cut JP next year and also move JT next year the savings in Taylor's salary would off set alot of the dead money that Joey would cost us. I really don't think Joey will be here next year because he just doesn't seem like a Parcells kind of guy, at least, to me but what do I know. :wink2:

 

Hes a bigger OLB with a nasty attitude. How is that not a BP guy?

 

Porter seems to be exactly the type of LB Parcells likes. Especially if Porter was in his prime. I do not think the salary cap will prevent his release after 2008 season

 

There's no need to cut him, he will be better in a true 3-4 defense this year!

 

Pretty much, he also is our pass rush if JT retires, this infatuation with cutting him seems odd.

Who exactly would replace him? Who would rush the passer? What veteran on our "D" is capable of leading and making plays as well?

 

IMO, Porter will have a pretty solid year. 3-4 might be better suited for him.

 

im gonna laugh at all the haters when JP has a solid season

 

me too. it seems like that group knows 0 facts about JPs time in Miami.

 

Put me in the camp of "Not a Fan Of Bigmouth Joey" but I think he will have a very good season.

 

Joey Porter was the victim of bad coaching decisions. He was placed out of his natural position. In essence they put handcuffs on him and told him to play. Porter was frustrated by this through out the year and his "mouth" did not act out against the coaching staff instead he sucked it up and played to the best of his ability in a way that his abilities were misused. In other words they tried to make Porter fit their scheme instead of letting him do what he does best and that is pressure the QB.

 

Actually he did tear Cam apart at the end of the season but otherwise I agree with you. Im anxious to see what he can do at his normal position.

 

To Porter's credit he was only backing up his team mate Truck Traylor. Cameron had lost control of his team and ended up suspending Traylor for a dispute over dominoes on the team flight. Cameron had lost all respect from the veterans and Joey was just the guy that put the cherry on top.

btw I like your avitar...nice!

 

Thanks man,
Yea dont get me started on why Cam was a genius lol. I think JP and BP and the guys can def get along better.

Is that morrison in your avatar?

 

I agree with you on them being able to get along better. Cameron was just in over his head. Great coordinator, bad Head coach. Didn't seem to command the respect of the players.

and yes that is James Douglas Morrison circa 1970

 

Bravo, the Doors are one of my favs.

I agree, Porter did just fine working with Cowher and I can see plenty of similarities between him and our staff.

 

What's crazy is... I have a feeling this regime will LIKE Porter.

Plus, they seem to value keeping one vet around in each position to teach the young-uns. OL has Smiley, DL has Ferguson and Hollday. RB has Ricky. QB is conspicuously young, but McCown is a vet, nonetheless. WR, all young. Secondary has some vets.

I could see them valuing Porter in that LB corps with Akin to give some vet leadership, teach young uns how to quarterback a defense, how to read plays, and to be intense.

I think Joey will, furthermore, have a very good year under hard-nosed, no nonsense coaching like ours. And it's a 3-4 with enough big bodies up from that we should EVER have to see Joey in a three point stance again (dumb *** Capers).

After a great year here.... the only way I see them wanting to part ways is of Joey has another major injury, or is nagged all year again. Otherwise, I'd keep him again or trade him for value.

If he underperforms, or is injured, then they'll trade him for a 6th next year, or just cut him outright.

I think joey, problem child though he can be, has stern enough "Dads" here to make him behave himself, and focus hard on his work.

Guys like Porter are great when you can CHANNEL all that energy into football.

Bpk

 

in your sig pic, Jason Ferguson looks like there was just a Pie-Sighting.

Bpk

 

It's interesting reading this thread now seeing what Joey is doing this season. =)

 

The handcuffs have definitely come off of Porter and he is leading the league doing what he does best rushing the passer.

 

Reading these old threads really make me smile :P

 

wait, wait don´t cut him, i have that feeling that he will have around 17.5 sacks for us this year and help us win the AFC East

 

Hi There!
This is Damianne!
Im new in this site!
There's no need to cut him, he will be better in a true 3-4 defense this year!
Porter will have a pretty solid year. 3-4 might be better suited for him.
Keep on posting!
Thanks!...
Good Luck!...

 

Good post

:pity:

 

INFREAKINCREDIBLE:yes:

 

BOt?

 

There's no reason to cut JP under any circumstances....he's a beast!