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What's next for the Dolphins at tight end?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Paul 13, Aug 18, 2013.

  1. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Good little article...

    http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/62924/whats-next-for-dolphins-at-tight-end

    article goes on to include Clay and Egnew in the mix and says that the replacement is likely on the roster here (or a combination of the three depending on the situation) and that a free agent acquisition is unlikely at this point. Two weeks from now however, I'd say it's a different story and we will add someone that has been let go in the cuts to make the 53. I'd also like to see more of Evan Rodriguez as a pass catcher in the last two games to test what he can do.

    What do you think? Is the replacement on the roster or do we need to go balls out to find one? (including a trade)
     
  2. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    I'll be surprised if they don't sign a vet in the next 2 weeks.
     
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  3. Heisenphin

    Heisenphin Banned

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    There is a plan. Yeah, science.
     
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  4. LBsFinest

    LBsFinest Banned

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    All of a sudden our receiving corps doesn't look all that great.
     
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  5. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Sign heap or shockey for some vet leadership and blocking help. The young guys can handle the receiving end of things
     
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  6. vizi0n

    vizi0n Boom.. Club Member

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    Actually they still caught 5 consecutive passes following that...So I don't think the sky is falling just yet.
     
  7. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think the easiest management on the roster right now is to make Dion Sims the starter, and getting him more involved in pass protection while freeing the backs up.
     
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  8. btfu149

    btfu149 Well-Known Member

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    One of my buddies just texted me we are talking to Philly about Brent Celek for a 5th, he didnt tell me where he heard it from so I don't know the validity of that claim
     
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  9. bran

    bran Senior Member

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    the tight ends that were drafted need to step up, and continue to develop. probably sign a veteran to add some depth to the roster. like someone said in the keller injury thread, dustin keller can still mentor and teach the young guys, i think his knowledge could really help sims, egnew, clay.
     
  10. 54Fins

    54Fins "In Gase we trust"

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    over there
    Free pass Egnew might be the only one who benefits from what happened to Dustin.
     
  11. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    There's a fair chance Egnew becomes the starter. If this were Sparano's team that preferred an inline TE I'd be saying Sims, but in Philbin's offense Egnew seems like a more appropriate replacement for Keller.
     
  12. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    That's because you don't call yourself LBsFinest.
     
  13. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    why am i not surprised ?
     
  14. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    That's ridiculous man. Just pathetic. The guy has worked his tail off and has most certainly earned playing time based on HIS play and HIS OWN merit thus far in preseason regardless of Keller's injury.
     
  15. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I'd seriously question the validity. Celek is a talented productive starting 28 year old tight end on a team that uses a 2 TE offense most of the time. They're gonna let him go for a 5? Maybe if Ireland has some pix of Howie Roseman in a compromising position with a couple of transsexual prostitutes.
     
  16. vizi0n

    vizi0n Boom.. Club Member

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    He was making this team regardless....

    Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 4
     
  17. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    What if they regret signing Casey, can't we just take over his contract if we wanted do.
     
  18. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Are you serious, and sober right now?
     
  19. btfu149

    btfu149 Well-Known Member

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    I don't disagree with you I'd be surprised if it happened. Someone else mentioned Celek in the other thread too so I don't think my friend was making up the rumor, it is probably a rumor nonetheless though.
     
  20. dolfan40

    dolfan40 Well-Known Member

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    I would love to trade for Jeremichael Finley,he has a history with Philbin and has a Contract year,i would be eager to trade Starks along a 4round pick for him!
     
  21. LBsFinest

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    Doubt that.
     
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  22. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Seriously sober :tongue2:
     
  23. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Which means it's probably not valid at all...
     
  24. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    This is just my OPINION but...

    I wouldn't look for the Dolphins to risk getting Marty Booker'd or Lamar Gordon'd by trying to find some long term solution in AUGUST at a time when long term solutions are likely to be extraordinarily flawed.

    I think they'll be a little active with the waiver wire, guys like Clay Harbor, D.J. Williams, maybe my dream will finally come true with Joseph Fauria, who knows. But it's going to be someone like that, most likely.

    As for what happens at the position among the starters, call me old fashion but I think that when the #1 gets hurt the most likely guy to get the call up will be the #2. Charles Clay has always been a similar player to Dustin Keller. That's why they liked the personnel package of having both guys on the same field at the same time. They were so alike they were interchangeable and they had a bunch of options for a bunch of different looks. I sat there and watched in the preseason games how one snap they'd have Clay in the backfield at fullback with Keller on the line or unattached in the slot, and the next snap Keller is in the backfield while Clay is on the line or unattached in the slot. Or they're both unattached. Or Clay is attached but Keller is not. Or vice versa. I've seen Charles Clay man up as an attached tight end and block big defensive ends effectively. And I have also seen him do that and fail. But I've seen the exact same from Dustin Keller this preseason, and even worse at times during his career with the Jets.

    The question becomes, who steps up as the #2 guy...not who steps up to be the #1 guy. The #1 guy is Charles Clay. I'll just go ahead and say that right now. But during the preseason with the way they've been rotating Egnew and Sims it's become clear that they're not quite sure which guy should be above the other in the order. Sims came out blocking strong in the first preseason game but his blocking has really fallen off since then. It's very inconsistent. Michael Egnew's blocking has improved. Meanwhile Dion Sims continues to show tight hips in the passing game. He turns like a paddle steamer and it affects how available he is as a target to the quarterback. On the other hand, getting Michael Egnew to run his routes with urgency and vigor is still an up-and-down thing. These two players are pretty neck and neck I think and you can see it on the field in the way they divvy up the snaps and the ways they use them.
     
  25. 54Fins

    54Fins "In Gase we trust"

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    over there
    Nice assessment. So in closing your saying it's up to the the coaching staff to place these te's where there need to be for us to be most effective?
    Or do you expect/ think that someone will finally step up and take the next step to be that #2 guy?
     
  26. Boik14

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    Would Ireland do business with a GM who deals with prostitutes? I mean he wouldnt do business with a WR whos mom was a prostitute.....
     
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  27. PhinsRock

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    Funny how a week or so ago I was hearing how deep we were at TE, we may bring in a vet like Sharkey but I'd really prefer us to develop the younger guys. For the first time since JJohnsin retired, I believe we have the coaching staff to develop some talent at TE.
     
  28. djphinfan

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    " Sharkeys Machine"" great burt reynolds flick..with one of the most beautiful women ever..Rachel wood..

    How bout that Clean..
     
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  29. PhinsRock

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    I think I meant Shockey :lol:
     
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  30. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Psssst...its Rachael Ward
     
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  31. Lloyd Heilbrunn

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    We have three TE/HBs on the roster that we drafted, if none of them are capable of starting, we are doing something wrong in the draft...
     
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  33. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    ^^ Just discovered the name? Omar acts like that is earth shattering, ground breaking moment of lucidity. We all know all about Donald Lee.
     
  34. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Maybe he wants a holiday named after him like Christopher Columbus. When the Indians were already here.
     
  35. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    BTW, as I posted in DJ's thread. Dustin Keller didn't open the game as our tight end (Dion Sims did). He didn't open the second series as our tight end (Michael Egnew did). In fact, the play where he got hurt, I'm pretty sure it was his first snap of the game lined up next to the right tackle (as opposed to in the slot). That's some kind of sick irony.
     
  36. Disgustipate

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    Really, Donald Lee? I'd rather we keep Kyle Miller on the roster.

    ****, what is Joey Haynos doing now?

    Rolly Lumbala? Jim Mandich, even?
     
  37. ckparrothead

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    Keller had a catch prior to that play where his knee got massacred.
     
  38. Ohio Fanatic

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    I'd rather stick with what we got already. Shockey sucked before he retired. you think after 2 years he'll be able to play?
    As crushed as I am with the Keller injury, how about we just see what Sims and Clay can do? I'd be okay with signing a vet, but more as a replacement for Egnew.
     
  39. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    he was lined up in the slot though.
     
  40. TheHighExhaulted

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    Les Brown!
     
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