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What's the best way to attack a Revis defense.?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by djphinfan, Aug 5, 2014.

  1. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    First of all I'll just admit again, that I think he's the best I've ever seen, so I feel strongly that he will shut down whoever he lines up against and more, my question is when you have that type of presence, what's the best way to attack a defense that benefits from all the space he takes up.?

    Should we bust out the read option on these cats 10 times or what?

    Should we make Wallace run go routes all game just to get him out of the picture?
     
  2. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    If Tannehill keeps slightly overthrowing Wallace, I say take a few shots right at his ***.

    Aside from Revis though, the Patriots seem to be having some safety issues, at least that's what a few write-ups and some of their fans are saying. I think the intermediate stuff will be there for the taking.

    Also, the Patsies were 30th against the run last year...if we can at least get some semblance of openings, we should be able to set a lot of stuff up that way. Wouldn't be surprised at ALL to see Lazor scheme this one very reliably in week 1...Bellicheat's VHS machine won't be spinning with this offense.
     
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  3. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    i think if you have a speed guy like wallace, he will eventually be beaten by the double move / stop and go route , randy moss did it and of course our famous Ted Ginn did it to him, i also would try him out in the run game, let him stick his head in there too, lets see if his psyche is all the way back, since this is the stadium where he got hurt

    and then there is the new offense with no real film on it in week 1
     
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  4. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Tannehill playing well or badly behind a line that plays well or badly will have far more to do with our fate than Revis. I wouldn't worry about hypotheticals with Revis.
     
  5. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I disagree, I think you have to have a specific game-plan, there's got to be a way that has a Proven most effective way to attack when you have a dominant corner on the field.
     
  6. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I bring this up because I'm sure the coaches are already plotting..
     
  7. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    If Tannehill and the Oline play well, Revis won't be enough for us to lose. If they don't, it's irrelevant.

    Though I agree, it's a lot of fun to think about what strategies coaches might use against an opponent's star player.

    I guess I'd run right at him and put my helmet into his sternum. Take the flag, and Revis' heart.
     
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  8. Fin-Omenal

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    Resign Ted Ginn and wear the Orange jerseys.

    That was as bad as I've ever seen Revis beat.
     
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    Combo routes
     
  10. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    I don't think Wallace runs routes well enough to beat Revis. but that's why we have other good WRs in Hartline, Landry and Mathews along with Clay at TE. The short and intermediate stuff is our best shot to beat them. Then Vernon and Wake need to stomp Brady into the ground to limit them to < 20 points.

    and I have to argue with DJ, Revis is not the best. For a pure cover corner, Deion was MUCH better than Revis, not even close IMO. If you consider taking on the run, then the gap starts to close.
     
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  11. DPlus47

    DPlus47 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That's a great memory. For at least one day, Ginn was kicked back on Revis Island in a beach chair drinking something with a tiny umbrella in it, just relaxing.

    I never thought Revis made much of a difference against the Phins. I guess there was the game where he mugged Brandon Marshall (it looked like he was trying to pull off his jersey, IIRC) and got a pick 6 against Matt Moore, but I may have blocked that out, and that Dolphins team may or may not have sucked, anyway.

    I think he's a great corner, but Miami hasn't had a single dominant receiver for anyone to take away for a long time. Revis can't take away the #1 option on every play, because that option is always changing.
     
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  12. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    CBs are generally pretty easy to nullify by just throwing to other areas. A pick 6 or just INTs can be game changers but a smart QB will just avoid them. That's why they're not really impact players, IMO.
     
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  13. TiP54

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    Greatest Dolphins game i have seen in person :D

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  14. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    They may be easy to nullify by not going their direction but that doesn't take away what the other guys can do because of his presence and talent and how it allows for them To cover less space.

    He's the best by far imo in the game..it changes the way you play defense, which changes the way you must approach offense.
     
  15. Canad-phin

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    Honestly, take him deep and run drag routes, make him run all god damn day. One thing you can do to Revis is beat him over the top. First play from scrimmage would be a double move by Wallace and Tannehill chucking it as far he can, I would test how good that knee really is and if he's lost a step.
     
  16. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Especially now that the NFL wants to make every defense/secondary play and look like the Dallas Cowboys.
     
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  17. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    it's one thing to be as great as he is, but whatever great that is will not make him run faster, I agree in your approach, take multiple shots early against Revis, somehow get Wallace to get free releases and let him fly.
     
  18. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    You can still stretch the field either horizontally or vertically so the space the others have to cover isn't effected much. A CB, no matter how good he is, can only nullify one guy at best so his impact is limited.
     
  19. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    The rules have kind of neutered the position and now that you have up to five potential receivers so much of the time a CB nullifying one guy is really minimally impacting.
     
  20. Colmax

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    Michael Crabtree might disagree with you.

    Although, I certainly get your point, CBs (great ones) still pull in some pretty stout salaries. Teams pay players who make big impacts, and CBs can certainly change the face of a game at one fell swoop.
     
  21. Unlucky 13

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    With Browner not playing in the first month, and with the Pats talking about keeping each corner on one side and not having Revis mirror anyone, I think that it will be easier to avoid him than it would have been otherwise. If Revis shuts down his man completely, then there should still be options on the other side, in the slot and to Clay.
     
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  22. byroan

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    Remember that game like it was yesterday. Beautiful throw by Henne and he had all the time in the world.
     
  23. RevRick

    RevRick Long Haired Leaping Gnome Club Member

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    Had to go stick a dose of reality into the fantasy of Wallace beating Revis, didncha?

    If we had the line for it, and the backs for it... a few Green Bay Sweeps (or their modern ilk) might keep him a little ticklish. Matter of fact, any kind of running game might hold both the D line and the D back for that split second of indecision that it would take for the advantage to be Aqua and Orange!

    EDIT:
    My first choice would be illegal... a flight of warthogs with hellfires. What would be the yardage penalty for that?
     
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  24. vt_dolfan

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    Well...I think we will see us run our normal offense..fast paced ..try build a running game...lots of motion..make it hard for Revis to just pick one route to key on. In all honesty..not worried about Pats defense...its stopping Brady.
     
  25. Limbo

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    If Wilfork and Mayo bounce back from their injuries this will probably be the best defense the Pats have had in a decade. That's three all-pro type of players, one at each level. They made the AFC Champ game with a sorta second string defense last year. Apparently Revis is in top form...Pats are already trying to give him an extension. Leaving Revis by himself lets them use an extra body in the middle of the field where they're most vulnerable at the moment.

    We're going to have to keep at the run game, whether it's working or not imo. Can't make yourself one-dimensional. Clay should be able to do some work underneath and down the seam because he's such a matchup problem for the Pats safeties. I'd get Wallace involved on screens. Get the ball to him before Revis has a chance to use his physicality, and force the Pats to tackle him well on the perimeter. You can beat a great defense if you can squeeze out a few big plays. The two games with them could really be defensive struggles.
     
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  26. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    Here's how you attack a Revis defense:

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    Need a better throw though :pity:
     
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  27. mcdave21

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    Yikes! Talking about a poor throw. Smh
     
  28. Deerless Dice

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    Make him tackle Daniel Thomas
     
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  29. Bpk

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    So Revis can just set up 3yards from the LOS and wait.
     
  30. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    Sure the player being nullified feels the impact, but SF could have easily avoided Sherman by throwing it elsewhere. And yes, that's my point about the salary. CBs are still paid like an impact position even though they're easy to avoid in the game plan. You shouldn't be able to do with a true impact position. QB, pass rusher, WR/TE, S are positions that you can only negate or try to negate with multiple players. Even the WR/TE is not usually negated by one CB. Despite the media tag of Revis Island, he often receives help over the top against the faster WRs. That's why the great ones at those positions are worth the premium salary. But a position that can be negated by one player isn't impacting the game as much. Paying a big salary to a lower impact position hurts your ability to build the rest of the team.
     
  31. Bpk

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    The most effective way to nullify Revis is the amazing wombo combo.

    [video=youtube;fE4_wUbjaIc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE4_wUbjaIc[/video]
     

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