Where do we rank in the AFC in your opinion?

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

Here’s the thing with him. At least I illustrated my point by giving facts and circumstances quantifying my point of view. Right or wrong, it doesn’t matter. The fact was I presented a fact based point of view.

He can’t even do that. I’ve endeavored to never delve into name calling as it doesn’t elevate an argument, but when it comes to that poster, ID TEN T comes to mind.

There's no point to do that with you if you want to know my side "for the humor of it."

If you want to actually understand to understand, then I'm open to it. However, not until you retract your previous comment.

"StaleTacos wrote:

There's no point to do that with you if you want to know my side "for the humor of it."

If you want to actually understand to understand, then I'm open to it. However, not until you retract your previous comment.

I’ve opened the door. You just standing there ranting and not quantifying your point of view so…

Thanks for playing our game. Johnny, tell him what he’s won…

"StaleTacos wrote:

Where have I insulted here in this thread? You are also a very insulting poster on this site. Pot meet kettle.

Give it a break. There's a reason a ton of posters think you're a troll. And you don't get to reset your insult history with each new topic. My insults to you were responses to the insults you started. I've repeatedly said you're currently the worst poster on this site, and that's true even if we see the Jets vs. Dolphins similarly.

The Jets would’ve made the playoffs last year with competent quarterback play. Their defense is legit.

"Serpico Jones wrote:

The Jets would’ve made the playoffs last year with competent quarterback play. Their defense is legit.

Yeah, see my post earlier for an estimate: 10 wins with average QB play last year, which would have made them a WC team.
https://thephins.com/threads/where-do-we-rank-in-the-afc-in-your-opinion.98296/#post-3552497

Regardless, I don't see why we need to worry about the Jets. The Jets are (on paper) likely to make the playoffs, but they're unlikely to win the SB (~7% likely by Vegas odds). Rodgers, as good as he has been, has only won 1 SB and that's not an accident IMO. He only has a 11-10 playoff record. So really.. who cares. The Dolphins need to figure out how to beat the Chiefs, Bills and Bengals. F*** the Jets!

"cbrad wrote:

Give it a break. There's a reason a ton of posters think you're a troll. And you don't get to reset your insult history with each new topic. My insults to you were responses to the insults you started. I've repeatedly said you're currently the worst poster on this site, and that's true even if we see the Jets vs. Dolphins similarly.

Give it a break? You are the one that butted your way into this conversation, and made it a personal matter. I don't have much interest in discussing topics with you. You've shown yourself to myself and others when challenged.

"Serpico Jones wrote:

The Jets would’ve made the playoffs last year with competent quarterback play. Their defense is legit.

The Jets juggernaut defense beat:

Jacoby Brissett
Mitch Trubisky/Kenny Pickett
Skylar Thompson
Aaron Rodgers
Brett Rypien
Josh Allen
Trevor Siemien

The Jets had 16 takeaways last year. The Dolphins had 14.

Their defense is severely overrated.

"StaleTacos wrote:

Give it a break? You are the one that butted your way into this conversation, and made it a personal matter. I don't have much interest in discussing topics with you. You've shown yourself to myself and others when challenged.

I butted in because you acted like someone else (TDK) was somehow being unnecessarily insulting given your posting history. And if you don't have much interest in discussing topics with me (obviously.. you lose based on the facts presented), then just stop responding to me. Won't change my willingness to butt in again if you try acting like it's another poster that's being unnecessarily insulting. You have too much of a history to justify calling anyone out on that.

"cbrad wrote:

I butted in because you acted like someone else (TDK) was somehow being insulting given your posting history. And if you don't have much interest in discussing topics with me (obviously.. you lose based on the facts presented), then just stop responding to me. Won't change my willingness to butt in again if you try acting like it's another poster that's being unnecessarily insulting. You have too much of a history to justify calling anyone out on that.

Sounds good. I'll be sure to report your posts to the moderator in the future. As I won't allow your personal insults to derail threads.

"StaleTacos wrote:

Sounds good. I'll be sure to report your posts to the moderator in the future. As I won't allow your personal insults to derail threads.

Yeah go ahead. Why don't you report my posts now? Let's see if I violated any rules of this board.

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

Well, we all have our opinions.

I think that the Jets are on the outside looking in at a playoff spot. Maybe one of the last wildcard teams if everything broke right for them, but having to play four games vs the Bills and Fins is a tall ask. They also have to play the AFC West and NFC East, just like we do, and you could argue that they're better than only one or two of those eight teams.

So with at least ten games vs teams that are better than they are on paper (IMO), and about four more where its about even, I just don't see the numbers there for them to even sneak in like we did a year ago. More likely something like 8-9 with a healthy Rodgers.

Imo, the Jets will split with us and Buffalo and sweep NE. At home I would have them favored vs LA, Washington, Houston and Atlanta. Losing to KC and Philly. On the road I would favor them be Denver, Vegas, Giants and Cleveland. Losing to Dallas. I can’t see them missing the playoffs.

"StaleTacos wrote:

Sounds good. I'll be sure to report your posts to the moderator in the future. As I won't allow your personal insults to derail threads.

Moderators already know who you are..

We can have fun any way we want

:)

"StaleTacos wrote:

Give it a break? You are the one that butted your way into this conversation, and made it a personal matter. .

He has a knack for doing that.

"cbrad wrote:

I butted in because you acted like someone else (TDK) was somehow being unnecessarily insulting given your posting history. And if you don't have much interest in discussing topics with me (obviously.. you lose based on the facts presented), then just stop responding to me. Won't change my willingness to butt in again if you try acting like it's another poster that's being unnecessarily insulting. You have too much of a history to justify calling anyone out on that.

That post reminded me of the TK Parrot head guy that used to post here.... is he still around?

"dolphin25 wrote:

That post reminded me of the TK Parrot head guy that used to post here.... is he still around?

I think you mean CK Parrot head. Chris stopped posting here when his podcast started to take off.

"VManis wrote:

I think you mean CK Parrot head. Chris stopped posting here when his podcast started to take off.

It’s a shame we lost him and Travis Wingfield who used to post here

"VManis wrote:

I think you mean CK Parrot head. Chris stopped posting here when his podcast started to take off.

That sound right :)

"btfu149 wrote:

It’s a shame we lost him and Travis Wingfield who used to post here

I was so happy for Travis when he got that job, talk about living your dream.

"btfu149 wrote:

It’s a shame we lost him and Travis Wingfield who used to post here

I miss Travis, but he was required to stop posting due to the fact that he now has a prominent position with the Dolphins official media team. Certainly can't hold that against him! Any of us would do it. Just yesterday, I watched a video of his on the Instagram account, and smiled and showed my wife.

The other guys just chose to leave us and do something else. Oh well.

I'll go

Buffalo
Miami
Jets
Patriots

But I wouldn't be shocked by any order of the top 3.

Then there's the other option where Rodgers/Allen gets injured at which point the whole division is a guess.

"Wilkimania wrote:

I'll go

Buffalo
Miami
Jets
Patriots

But I wouldn't be shocked by any order of the top 3.

Then there's the other option where Rodgers/Allen gets injured at which point the whole division is a guess.

I’m a believer in the Fangio defense. I’ll go

Miami
Buffalo
Jets
New England.

"Wilkimania wrote:

I'll go

Buffalo
Miami
Jets
Patriots

But I wouldn't be shocked by any order of the top 3.

Then there's the other option where Rodgers/Allen gets injured at which point the whole division is a guess.

If The Bills lose Allen for any real length of time, then it depends on where they are in their schedule. Interestingly, the only time where they play two Divisional opponents in a 3-week span is facing the Fins and Patriots the last two games of the year. Otherwise, he could miss as many as 5 games and just hit one team in the East. Making it great for that one, but bad luck for the others.

I can understand why many sites have the Jets higher than the phins. Rogers is a simpler and more obvious fix to their problems than Fangio + Ramsey + return to health of our DBs is for the phins.

Having said that I’m really excited about our D and think that we’ll be a top 10 D this year.

Tom Brady has shown that a 40ish QB can recover from a down year, but I think Tampa provided Brady with more offensive help than the Jets are providing Rogers.

I still think the Phins are better than the Jets, but it relies on more things going right for us than the number of things the Jets need to go right for them.

"Pauly wrote:

I can understand why many sites have the Jets higher than the phins. Rogers is a simpler and more obvious fix to their problems than Fangio + Ramsey + return to health of our DBs is for the phins.

Having said that I’m really excited about our D and think that we’ll be a top 10 D this year.

Tom Brady has shown that a 40ish QB can recover from a down year, but I think Tampa provided Brady with more offensive help than the Jets are providing Rogers.

I still think the Phins are better than the Jets, but it relies on more things going right for us than the number of things the Jets need to go right for them.

Jets WR are not trash and their RB situation is good. Their OL was pretty bad though.

Jets defense is good but they caught a ton of breaks which gets lost in the discussion of them having bad QB play. Its a bit inflated by playing Miami twice without Tua, Chicago without Fields, and New England twice.