Playing devils advocate here. Hate to create a new thread but I think it's warranted..
If this situation continues to gain steam, where would you draw the line and shift it back to a wholesale firing of team leadership?
I can almost predict how this is going to unfold. A powder keg is about to be lit if the allegations that Cogs father brought up were true. If the organization pressured Martin to continue playing football, KNOWING full well that he was mentally unstable, suicidal and unable to adapt to an NFL locker room, couldn't one make a moral argument that the team should have released him or supported his decision to take a step back from the NFL?
If we find out that organization made a concerted effort to ignore or gloss over allegations of suicide or drug abuse on the part of Martin, doesn't that constitute a moral and total failure of the organization to do the right thing in favor of hoping to get results on the field with someone that was on the verge of having a mental breakdown?
While I've taken a harsher stance towards how this has been handled by Martin, if reports were to prove that not only did the team ignore these warning sides, but also nudged his peers to toughen him up, I'd have to reverse myself and completely support any effort to remove the guilty parties, no matter how far up the chain it goes.
I suspect Ross knew about the potential ramifications of bringing in the NFL to review this episode, and may have been aware of these mental issues that Martin was having as they were happening.
If that is the case I can't see how Ireland or Philbin survive this.
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Ross.......I'm too old for this crap!
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Like Ross is completely blameless for all the nonsense from that point up until now...
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where do I draw the line?
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Plus the stadium is outdated. I can see him getting out soon. He doesn't need this.
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Something tells me Ross isn't the kind of guy to just jump ship. He doesn't like to fail, and moving on now would seem like failure. he will stick it out through this, however if the team continues to have issues like this then in a couple years sure. But not yet.
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vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member
I think alot of it has to do with how the public responds to things once everything is out in the open. But if I had to guess....Id start talking about who our interim HC might be. But who knows....
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shula_guy Well-Known Member
I need more facts before drawing any lines. It is plausible that everyone in the organization believed they were doing things that were in the best interests of Martin and the team. This may be a case of poor execution of good intentions.
It may of been Ireland trying to spare himself from the embarrassment of another missed draft pick on the O-Line.
Might be a HC's over zealousness trying to fix a weak spot on his team.
Incognitio might of been the appointed guy by the team to mentor Martin because RT was getting killed out there and they may of blamed Martin for the 4 game losing streak.
It might be a case of Martin realizing he is not cut out for football and is embarrassed to admit it so he is making more out of this than is necessary to save face with his mommy.